Query on Pricing procedure in MM

dear friends,
I was asked in an interview the following questions on pricing procedure:
1. what is difference between manual indicator in calculation schema and manual indicator in condition type. what will happen if we tick both?
2. what will happen if in a condition type if we tick the indicator for both item condition and header condition and why sap permits that both can be ticked.
I gave the answers as per the sap help says on these 2 points, but i feel that i could not explain logically to it.
please explain.
regards
Ajay

1. what is difference between manual indicator in calculation schema and manual indicator in condition type. what will happen if we tick both?
MAnual indicator in calculationschema means- you are going to enter this condition in Info, PO or any other document manually, system will not default automatically or not detrmined automatically
In the condition type there are many other selection is there but usage is same.
2. what will happen if in a condition type if we tick the indicator for both item condition and header condition and why sap permits that both can be ticked.
If oyu tick both that mwans this candition can be used as a item condition and/or header condition also.
e.g. if you have freight applicable based on the inco term so if all your PO item are applicable for freight then you can enter that condition at header only but if you freight is applicable for certain item only then you need to enter at item level
hope this will give good idea.

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Pricing Procedure related query

If I don't see an account key in front of the pricing condition in the pricing procedure - what does it mean? How is it picking the account key that i can see in the document. It is not a statastical condition type.
Any help will be highly appreciated and rewarded.

Dear Surya
account keys are defined and assigned to condition types like
img---sd-basic functions-account assignment and costing-revenue account determination----define and assign account keys
Examples
ERL--- sales revenues- All your price condition types are assigned here
ERS--- sales deductions- All your discountcondition types are assigned here
ERF--- sales Freight- All your freight condition types are assigned here
In VKOA we maintain GL accounts for the combination of sales org,account assignment group of the customer ,account assignment group of the material, chart of accounts and account key and for this combination the GL account is this and another combination GL account is this like this it is defined
It is highly reqd for SD account determination
Regards
Raja

Po pricing procedure query

Hi All,
In PO pricing procedure (M/08), there are 2 coulmns - Acc key and Accurals.
please explain the functionality/concept of these columns.
usually for the freight conditions the transaction/event keys are used like FRE1, FR2 etc.(in the predelivered sap po procedures like- RM0000) in these columns.
Questions:
1) in which scenario , the keys are to be used in these columns.? any reason for using?
2) can we use only one coulmn either Acc Key or Accurals. if yes in which scenario.
please guide
thanks and regards

thanks Vishal,
One last question which has arisen out of your recent reply, pl address so I close this question as points awarded.
1) if I put FRE, in the account key column, will the value get loaded on inventory or not?.
shall i take it like this Account key is meant to see/track the account separately but the value is also always loaded on the inventory.
but in case of accurals it will never be loaded on inventory.
2) like in the case of imports we use FR3 as accural key for CVD, Basic custom duty, etc .
i want to load the freight, insurance and CVD, basic custom duty etc on inventory, in this case I should not use any key in coulmn Acc key and Accurals--- am I right?
3) if i keep the same key on both the columns
please help, i am confused. I donot have any FI consultant with me who can show me the impact in FI module.
once again thanks
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Query on Subtotal in Pricing procedure

Hi All,
In my Pricing procedure, i have customized net value to Sub Total field '7'.
Now my requirement is to fetch this subtotal value in my custom program for further calculation.
Can someone please help me on this.
Let me know if i am not clear.
Thanks and Regards,
Sachin M M

I'm not sure why you need to do that for net value which has it's own field in VBAP, unless your definition of net value is different. If your 1-6 subtotal fields are used (KZWI1-6 in VBAP and VBRP), then it's easier to use one of the other subtotal markers. You can put as many KZWI-like fields in the append structures to KOMP, VBAP and VBRP as you like, such as ZZWIF. You then need to clear the extra fields in USEREXIT_XKOMV_BEWERTEN_INIT in RV61AFZB and tag your condition with one of the subtotal markers, such as 'F'. Add a statistical subtotal line right below it with a formula as follows:
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Query for MM Pricing Procedure & tax Procedure

Hello,
Can someone advice me on following.
I need one Condition in MM Pricing Procedure : Discount should be reduced after Calculation of Excise duty and Taxes on PO.
Discount should not be calculated for Excise Base amont & or Tax (CST /VAT) base amount.
Calculation
Basic :          100
Freight            20
Subtotal        120 (Excise Base)
Excise duty:   30
Subtotal:       150 ( Tax Base)
Tax   @4%       6
Subtotal        156
Discount         10
Total Price     146
My Requirement is how to add Discount at the Place shown above.
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Manish

Dear Manish,
                    After subtotal 120 put in subtotal column 7 and after subtotal 156 put 1.
Truly, I was bit surprised to see your first post, now I got the reason what kept you held.
I tell you why this happens.
I believe you are using tax procedure TAXINN. The routine 362 (in tax procedure) has the program which fetches the data from your pricing procedure and on what amount the taxes have to calculated is the value passed into BASB condition type of tax procedure. One should always read the routine 362 in tax procedure with the help of ABAP consultant. This will give you clarity on the concept of calculation. the subtotal field i.e is KZWI plays important role in calculation.
Currently I do not have access to any test system. If you put the subtotal what I have mentioned the result will come.
Another layman tip I am giving you for tax procedure calculation. where ever you are calculating subtotal just give value from 1 to 7 in subtotal column with different combination one by one and see the results, you will have good idea how the system behaves. Say if you put subtotal as 1, the system response will be different from if you give subtotal 4.
Why this is important to understand is when in future if you are going to add any new condition type you will know how the system response is towards the tax calculation.
That is why I suggested you to read the routine 362.
Moreover, if I see your procedure, excise duty, CST and LST should not be calculated on freight charges. Legally this is not correct. Freight charges are in the preview of service tax. In many implementations I came across the similar scenario where the client insisted on the similar procedure. This all happens due to ignorance of client. We have shown the client the official documents as well we also arranged the official meetings with excise commissioners to clear there doubt.
This scenario is usually insisted in the case of freight billed what client says. this is not correct.
Regards
Rajesh

Pricing Procedure query.

Dear expert,
My client want to maintain VAT calculation by adding some zcondition in pricing procedure.I don't want to add in TAXINN.Is there is any other way to achieved it.

Hi Tanmoy,
If the VAT is going to be inventorised then you can copy the condition type Manual Excise and create your Z condition, then add this to the calculation schema at the appropriate step as required.
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Chandra Shekhar

Derivation of pricing procedure in rebate credit note

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We have unique issue related to settlement of rebate credit note for a rebate agreement document. The rebate condition records are not populating with correct condition types and there is different pricing procedure being derived in credit note document. My query is that where do we maintain pricing procedure for rebate credit note (VF03) and how do the pricing procedure determine for rebate credit note.
Thanks & regards,
Praveen.

Dear Praveen
In rebates once you settle the amount from rebate agreement the credit memo request will be generated automatically.
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No Account key in pricing procedure

Dear All
I have Free goods item order. In the pricing procedure. There is no Account key mentioned in any of the condition type. This pricing procedure was created long time back, don't know when and by whom.
Now there is need to create retrun order for Free goods item.
Now when I am trying create Return order using same pricing procedure, it has asking me G/L accounts while saving sales return order. I have checked all the setting. Pricing for my item category has been set as B - 100% discount. I have copied item category used in the Free goods item order and ticked return in new item category. When I am trying to create retrun order using same pricing procedure. It is asking for G/L Account while saving the return order. when I check account assignmen. It says account key missing.
I am not able to understand, how then in the Free goods item order, it does not prompt for account key.
Can anybody save me. it si urgent.
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Saurabh Gothivrekar

Hi
I got answer to my query. YOu need to specify the bill type while defining sales document type. This bill type should not have account assignment mentioned in it.
I changed the bill type, which does not have Account assignment procedure attached to it.
It has solved my problem

Pricing procedure for order with reference from order

Dear Friends,
If I create a sales order with reference to another sales order of different type, the pricing procedure is copied too.
But I would to use another pricing procedure for second document
I found the oss note 14136 but this is for reference from invoce
I tried to create new data transfer routine for orders in copy from 51, but does not work
Can you help me??
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GdA

> If I create a sales order with reference to another sales order of different type, the pricing procedure is copied too. But I would to use another pricing procedure for second document,
Based on my understanding of query.
You are looking for a different pricing procedure in second doc.
For instance, the PricProc for SalesDoc1 is ZPR001 and the PricProc for SalesDoc2 is ZPR002, in addition to that, you want SalesDoc1 to become reference doc for SalesDoc2.
For this, ZPR002 & ZPR001 should have common base price condition type and rest pricing can change.
And for maintaining different Pricing Procedure with similar combination of sales area for SalesDoc1 & SalesDoc2, maintain different document pricing procedure for both docs and maintain Pricing procedure accordingly..
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Pricing Procedure calculation for Net value

Hi Gurus,
I have issue with pricing procedure for net price.
My pricing procedure is as follows.
Step    Cond.type       from    to      Subtotal        req.type        cal.type        Basetype
10      CPLF    0       0               0       0       0
20      CA              0       0               0       0       0
30      CPY             0       0               0       0       0
40      CWE             0       0               0       0       0
50      CPY1    30      40              0                           601 0
60      PCP             0       0               0       0       0
70      NCC            50       60              0       0       0       0
80      Subtotal 1      70                      1
90      VC              0       0               0       0       0
110     FPA             0       0               0                          600 0
150     INCR    0       0               0       0       0
160     BINC    0       0               0       0       0
170     PINC            0       0               0       0       0
180     CINC            0       0               0                           602 0
190     PRIN    0       0               0       0       0
200     FINC
210     Subtotal 2      200                    2        0       0
220     ADT             0       0               0       0       0
230     FTAX    0       0       0                                           603 0
240     Subtotal 3      210                     3       0       0
My query is when i am doing pricing for line items
1) For line item 1 net value of the item will be subtotal 1
2) For line item 2 Net value should be through condition type calculation.
3) For line item 3 net value should be through calculation of routine
4) For line item 4 net value should be Subtotal 2
5) For line item 5 net value should be Subtotal 3
So please tell me who to do?
regards
Srinivas

Hi,
Can you please explain what type of pricing you want to for your sales order.
I am confused with your line items.
Can you explain what kind lines item you are entering in your sales order.
Are they proper material for which you have maintained condition record in MM01.
Because for all the line item system will calculate price by the pricing procedure which you have shown.
So in short system will calculate different price for different line item.
After calculating the whole price it will make the total of net amount of all the line item.
And that net amount will be shown in the header data of the sales order.
Regards
Raj.

Accounting Key & Accruals Key in Calculation Schema (Pricing Procedure)

Hi Freinds,
               I have a query regarding use of Accounting Key & accruals key in the Calculation Schema (Pricing Procedure).
What is the significance of Accounting key & accruals key in the calcuation schema? Which Accounting & Accruals keys have to be used for Gross price,Discount,Freight, tax etc in the Calculation schema? Please post your precious threads.
Thanks & Regards
Saeed Arif

hi
AcyKy - Account Key/ Accrls - Accruals:
for SD module
u2022     The values of the Sales Revenues, Sales Deductions, Freight Revenues, Tax Revenues, and Rebate Accruals etc. are going to be posted in the respective G/L accounts in Fi Module.
u2022     In order to do this we assign account keys/ accruals to the different condition types based on their classification. The classification shown below.
o     ERB Rebate sales deduct.
o     ERF Freight revenue
o     ERL Revenue
o     ERS Sales deductions
o     ERU Rebate accruals
u2022     For Ex.,
o     For all Price condition types like PR00 etc. we assign ERL - Revenue.
o     For all Discount condition types like K004, K005 etc. we assign ERS - Sales Deductions.
o     For all Freight condition types KF00 etc. we assign ERF - Freight Revenues.
o     For all Rebates condition types BO01 to BO05 we assign in Account key ERB - Rebates Sales deductions and for Accruals ERU - Rebate Accruals.
u2022     This account keys and accruals are in turn assigned to respective G/L accounts. So the system posts respective values in respective G/L accounts in Fi-Co Module.
u2022     This also one of the areas of SD - Fi Integration. SD consultants assign the account keys and Fi Consultants assign the respective G/L accounts in T.Code:VKOA.
Similarly for MM Module
Account keys are EIN, FR1, FR2, FR3, FRE, etc...
And in OBYC, we do necessary account determination for the same.
For e.g. Freight Posting in GR
Condition type FRA1, Accrual FR1 and in OBYC, assign Freight Clearing A/c to FR1
During GR;
Stock Account - Dr - 110 INR
GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr - 100 INR
Freight Clearing A/c - Cr - 10 INR
transaction event key is the Key that identifies different types of G/L account.
The account key enables the system to post amounts to certain types of
revenue account. For example, the system can post freight charges
(generated by the freight pricing condition) to the relevant freight
revenue account.
use
To enable the system to find the relevant account for provisions (for
accrued delivery costs or miscellaneous provisions, for example), you
must assign a transaction/event (internal processing) key to each
condition type that is relevant to provisions in the step Define
Calculation Schema.
if u search on SDN or GOOGLE u will get many threads for this
hope it helps
regards
kunal

How to give the seasonal discounts in pricing procedure

Dear SD Gurus,
Can anybody guide me how to map the below scenario
A company wants to give the seasonal discount in a month.The first week it should give 3% discount on the purchase and the 2nd, 3rd,4th week should be 4%, 5%, 6% respectively.One more query that Do we have any option to give the discounts on hourly basis ? Pls clarify
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2 nd -- 4 %
3 rd - 5%
4 th - 6%
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spoiler maruti zen vxi material name    779SMZV is the material number
basic price @36.11 for 300unit is                10833
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MRP price after [email protected]%             23341.50
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assesable price after abatement                         23341.50
assesable value                                                  10833
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CESS on excise duty @2%                                     75
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total net sales                                                       14680
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Pricing Procedure (Debit Memo)

I have a pricing procedure at oder level let suppose ABC, I made delivery and billing all is well till that.
Than if delivered quantiy is less than the target quantity client will suppose to create a debit memo sort of penality to the customer, reference to that invoice quantity confirmation source is POD.
My debit memo pricing procedure is different from ABC, mean a PROO and MWST is appear on that not other charges or condition type.
I have assign the procedure at debit memo sales document type but what happen when in VA01 give the reference of invoice and copy the item the whole same (ABC) pricing is came up on the order (Debit Memo Request) which is not required I want the actual procedure will call.
If after this i directly go to the billing document after approval of this document my actual pricing procedure is there, but a different condition type is present in the 2nd pricing procedure that will not come, so I manually press the "Carry out new pricing" so that condition type than will appear..
Hope my gurus understand the problem. I want that actual pricing procedure is available at order if not that all the condition type will appear at the time of billing. I cant set the carry out new pricing setting in the copying control because if i done this the whole condition type of order will aappear at billing as well.
if have any query please feel free to ask.
Regards,

Dear W,
I have a pricing procedure ABC having following condition types
1. PR00
2. ZSED
3. ZWEH
4. MWST
sales to order above procedure work and i got the accounting documents and invoice.
My 2nd pricing procedure is XYZ for Debit Memo and assign on document type, have th efollowing steps.
1. PR00
2. MWST
3. ZHE1
4. ZHE2
when i create debit memo with reference to invoice at debit memo (Sales document type) the pricing procedure ABC is come automatically, and when I go to billing the actual pricing procedure is come, plus i have to press maullay carry out new pricing button, other wise the common condition type is came at billing, if in copying control if i by default maintain the carry ou tnew price system duplicate the condition types.
Hope you will now understand my issue and give any value added feedback for the resolution of hte issue.
Regards,

Assinment of pricing procedure to doc type

Hi friends,
I am new to MM , how the pricing procedure is assigned to doc type, or how the pp is triggered in PO.
Thanks
madhu

Hi Madhu Sudan,
Pricing Procedure as you know is one and the same as calculation schema.
To administer the PP i.e. Determination of Calculation Schema for PO you will have to go to the transaction SPRO---SAP Reference IMG
Follow the node
Materials Management-Purchasing-Conditions-Define Price Determination Process-Define Calculation Schema.
Once you are there In the calculation schema (pricing procedure), you specify which condition types are to be taken into account in which sequence
Now coming to your query,
1) Assignment a Calculation Schema (PP) to Doc type
-- Remember It is not possible to assign PP to Doc type
2) Trigerring of PP in PO
-- Follow these underwritten simple steps:
i. Define a schema group for vendor under the node> Materials Management-Purchasing-Conditions-Define Price Determination Process-Define Schema group. You will have to assign this same schema group in the relevant vendor master record.
ii. Define a schema group for Purchasing organisation under the node> Materials Management-Purchasing-Conditions-Define Price Determination Process-Define Schema group. & assign it to the relevant Purchasing Organisation in the same step.
iii. Once this is done you have to Determine Calculation Schema for Standard Purchase Order under the node>Materials Management-Purchasing-Conditions-Define Price Determination Process-Define Schema Determination. In this step you assign Calculation Schema to a combination of Schema Group (Purchasing Organisation) & Schema Group (Vendor).
iv. Conclusion: During the time of making a PO; Shema Group of Vendor is picked from the relevant Vendor Master Record, Schema Group of Purchasing Organisation is picked from Customisation (where you assigned it) & A Calculation Schema is triggered for the combination of these two Schema Groups (PP that you defined in step iii)
Hope this explains it, for better understanding please read the IMG activity documentation for each activity.
For any further doubts please reply.
Regards,
Prithviraj

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