Question on WHEN-VALIDATE-ITEM Trigger in Forms 6i

Hi,
I am working with a form which has two different database blocks. When I enter some valid data in block 1 and hit tab, a key-nxtblk trigger navigates the cursor to the next block. Now this second block has some fields which were disabled at the design time and I have a procedure which sets the properties of these items to enabled when required during runtime. From the first run, when I run this procedure and go to one of these items which has no data filled in yet and press tab, when-validate-item trigger is fired (I am confused with this kind of behavior).
Does anyone know why is it firing when-validate-item trigger and if yes how can we fix it?
My goal is to disable Block2.Item2 only if Block2.Item1 has some value in it.
Can anyone please look into it?
Thanks for your time.

Thanks Steve, Vikas and Craig for your valuable suggestions.
Craig, to answer your question, I have no "Copy Value from Item" or "Synchronize with Item" property set on these disabled fields.
To elaborate my problem, I have three non database items in a database block. I have to set the properties during the runtime. Suppose the fields are named as field1, field2, field3. Now I have to have when-validate-item triggers on each item with the following content.
WVI trigger on field1
IF field1 IS NULL
THEN
      activate field2 and field3.
ELSE
      Disable field2 and field3.
END IF;
WVI trigger on field2
IF field2 IS NULL
THEN
      activate field1 and field3
ELSE
      Disable field1 and field3.
END IF;
WVI trigger on field3
IF field3 IS NULL
THEN
      activate field1 and field2
ELSE
      Disable field1 and field2.
END IF;I have a procedure which is called in WHEN-NEW-BLOCK-INSTANCE trigger to assign NULL to some fields and set the properties in the block and during this process when I first run the form, the record_status is set to NEW and after setting some fields to NULL the record_status is changed to INSERT. But both the times when-validate-item trigger on each of the fields 1,2, & 3 are fired. No matter we enter any value or not.
can you help in understanding the mistake I am doing or fixing this?
Thanks for your time.
Edited by: new_user on Oct 31, 2008 1:00 PM

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user12266683 wrote:
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