Raw mat and procured finish product cost

we need to run cost run for both raw material and product, we want have the following scenario:
first mark the raw mat. cost run, then our finished product will get the future price of raw mat and base on BOM to update the future price of finished product.
after we mark finished product, we then release raw mat standard price and subsequently release finished product.
is any solution we can define costing variant for above scenario?
we have another scenario, we need to run costing run for finished good A, but this product A 's BOM contain only one procured finished product B, B doesn't have BOM and purchase info record, how can we change product B 's price, so finally finished product A 's standard price will be updated upon costing run?

Hi ,
In Costing Variant .. we have a Tab for valuation variant . In the valuation variant type , we have seperate valuations for raw Materials , activities, subcontracting etc .
Cost Estimate with Quanity Structure will refer to the Costing Variant and compute costs .. Hence , maintain Costing Variant and Valuation Variant properly..
This will solve both your issues..
Kindly revert back for any further questions..
Regards
Sarada

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I would like to ask you about the process of allocating eg. humal labour into CO-PA.
Lets have an example:
We have planned to spend 10 hours on some action. But actually we have spent 20 hours.
When we allocate our time from some PC, we have to allocate actuals, that means 20 hours, which will come into CO-PA online.
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I am not really sure about your question
We have planned to spend 10 hours on some action. But actually we have spent 20 hours.
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Hi Experts,
Bellow i am giving the my scenario, kindly check it
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We are trying to allocate a cost base in our purchasing department of around 200 mio dkk to our finished products. These products we manufacture ourselves. The cost represents salaries and external services
The outcome of an ABC study has been to allocate these costs, first on vendor level based on the total spent on each vendor and subsequently to the raw materials from each vendor based on value. The cost of purchasing should then be included in cost estimate of the raw material and hence in the cost of the finished goods through the bill of materials.
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As far as I know, SAP does not support this... What you can do is
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or
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1.For every batch of production a production order is raised in the production department. The production order contains the details of BOM and recipe.
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I am trying to understand if I need to settle to a sales order (SDI) or directly to material (MAT) or to COPA (PSG).
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Valuated Sales Order stock for Semi-Finished Products

Dear Gurus,
One of my client faced the issue that the semi-finished products is valuated-sales order. We are in Mill Industries, downstream (steel processing). The situation is:
1. We use configuration material for both finished and semi-finished products. Both are valuated at standard costs with valuated sales order stock.
2. Once the sales order is created, the cost estimates are created for both Finished, and semi-finished products.
3. The production orders is created for the semi-finished products. During production, several semi-fg and fg can be manufactured at the same time. We are using the co-products feature to cover that.
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I tried to use the user exit COPC002 and influence the standard costs. But it seems that the routine is not called for semi-fg at all. Anyone has any light on this?
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Hi
I think you are talking about Special Stock "E"...ie) Sale Order Stock...
If my understanding is correct then,
If you go and see the Table T156....For the
Movement Type: 101,
Special stock Indicator : E,
Qty. Updation Checked,
Val. Updation Checked,
Movement Indicator : Against PO,
Consumption Indicator: Sales Order Stock.....combination....the transaction Event Key....GBB only has been Assigned....these settings you cannot change...
This linkage you can view in OLMW-----> Account Determination -
> Acc. Determination W/O Wizard -
>Account Grouping....also
Reward if useful
Regards
S.Baskaran
Edited by: baskaran srinivasan on Dec 20, 2007 12:18 PM

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In my client place, i have done the configuration but i dont know the process.
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Product cost by sales order is useful when a finished product is manufactured for a specific customer rather than for the normal make-to-stock inventory. You can use the Product Cost by Sales Order component in the following situations:
When you are manufacturing in-house with reference to a sales order in complex make-to-order production
When you are purchasing customer-specific trading goods with reference to a sales order and reselling them to your customers
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1. Please tell me all the configuration steps to do product costing by sale order.
2. Also please tell me how to test it after configuring.
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Product cost by sales order is useful when a finished product is manufactured for a specific customer rather than for the normal make-to-stock inventory. You can use the Product Cost by Sales Order component in the following situations:
When you are manufacturing in-house with reference to a sales order in complex make-to-order production
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