Re: (forte-users) Delays in data transfer..server-to-client

I would try using DOM (distributed object manager) traces. trc:do:20 will
give you information on each messages sent from and received by the
partition. Levels are 1, 2, 5, 7, and 8, and trc:do:*:8 is very
verbose. trc:do:20:1 may tell you what you want to know. trc:do:1:1 will
give you a basic 1-line-per DOM event trace that may also be all you need.
Communications manager traces will tell you about network and socket-level
activity, but not about the sizes of the messages themselves. In addition,
the operating system makes decisions about physical packet size and
send/receive timing, so CM activities only generally map to actual network
activity.
-tdc
iPlanet Integration Server Engineering
At 09:24 AM 5/1/01 -0700, you wrote:
All,
We are experiencing delays in object transfer between server and client. The
delays are longer with large objects (a single object with an array of objects
that reflect the rows returned in a database) than small (ie: 10 rows vs 400).
Does anyone have any (actual) experience using the various Forte' flags in
order
to show the actual size of the object/packets being passed between the server
and client?
We are using input/output between client and server, input on all the SO's
within a partition. Response on the server side is good, roughly 6 seconds or
so. The round trip fare however from the time the client makes the SO call to
the time that it completes is in the 25-30 second range, leaving roughly 20-25
seconds unaccounted for. I have brought in the network guys who are
requesting
the data size and packet information. I did not see what I am looking for
using
the trc:cm:*:4 and trc:cm:*:8 flags. I will be trying the trc:cm:*:10
flag, but
Forte' indicates that this flag is very verbose, the systems group hates
it when
I use up all of THEIR disk space!
Any ideas would be appreciated as always.

Jeff,
If the object you are passing does not require changes made to it in the
server partition to be returned, pass the object as copy input (pass by
value not reference). If it is necessary to pass the object as input, try
to pass only the attributes that are required to the remote partition
instead of the whole object.
Input/Output is normaly used with scalar variables. When a scalar is passed
to a remote partition, if the value is changed in that partition, the value
is not returned to the calling partition unless Input/Output is used.
Input/Output should not be used for object type parameters, if you need to
pass a reference, use Input only. If you can pass by value, use Copy Input.
You will notice a huge difference in performance changing from Input to Copy
input when passing large objects.
Hope this helps,
Travis Foote
Fortedeveloper.com Inc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Bennett" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 9:24 AM
Subject: (forte-users) Delays in data transfer.. server-to-client
>
All,
We are experiencing delays in object transfer between server and client.The
delays are longer with large objects (a single object with an array ofobjects
that reflect the rows returned in a database) than small (ie: 10 rows vs400).
>
Does anyone have any (actual) experience using the various Forte' flags inorder
to show the actual size of the object/packets being passed between theserver
and client?
We are using input/output between client and server, input on all the SO's
within a partition. Response on the server side is good, roughly 6seconds or
so. The round trip fare however from the time the client makes the SOcall to
the time that it completes is in the 25-30 second range, leaving roughly20-25
seconds unaccounted for. I have brought in the network guys who arerequesting
the data size and packet information. I did not see what I am looking forusing
the trc:cm:*:4 and trc:cm:*:8 flags. I will be trying the trc:cm:*:10flag, but
Forte' indicates that this flag is very verbose, the systems group hatesit when
I use up all of THEIR disk space!
Any ideas would be appreciated as always.
-jeff
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jean-Paul Gabrielli [SMTP:Jean-Paul.Gabriellisema.fr]
    Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 12:11 PM
    To: Adamek, Zenon
    Cc: Forte-userslists.xpedior.com
    Subject: RE: (forte-users) [UNIX] "Too many open files" 3.0.M2
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    -----Message d'origine-----
    De: Adamek, Zenon [mailto:ZAdamekpurolator.com]
    Date: lundi 25 septembre 2000 17:13
    &Agrave;: 'Jean-Paul.Gabriellisema.fr'
    Cc: Forte-userslists.xpedior.com
    Objet: RE: (forte-users) [UNIX] "Too many open files" 3.0.M2 question
    see Technote 10981
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    From: Jean-Paul Gabrielli [SMTP:Jean-Paul.Gabriellisema.fr]
    Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 11:02 AM
    To: zeForte-users
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