RE: how can two Forte installtion communicate

Hi,
I have similar arrangement here but for "user acceptence test". However,
may I remind you that when some objects/codes got checked out --> overwrite
with new import --> integrate --> check out again. Some funny things ( I
would say corruption ) may happen. I have one time that a normal old piece
of code got compilation error and no one can find out why. The last resort
is that I deleted everything and start from scratch again. Then everything
works.
Thus, I would suggest that from time to time, you should start out with a
new repository instead of using it over and over again in this fashion.
Maybe you can archive the old one as a version backup.
Regards,
Peter Sham.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kalidindi, Ravi CWT-MSP [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 1:10 AM
To: 'Nick Delany'; 'Jim Rice'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: how can two Forte installtion communicate
Nick...
We have a similar situation here. We have about seven teams,
each
with their own repositories with interdependent code.
Let me give you a simple scenario to explain how you can
make it
work:
Problem
--Team A is responsible for projects 1,2,3 and use repository RepA
--Team B is responsible for projects 4,5,6 adn use repository RepB.
--Project 2 is a supplier plan to project 5 and project 3 is a
supplier plan
to project 6.
Solution
--each repository is reponsible for some projects and these projects
can be
changed only in that repository.
--each repository also has a workspace called "SlaveProjects"
--This workspace has all the projects that are needed but are not
developed
by this team.
--These projects are checked out so that no one else can change them
-- so, RepB's slaveProjects workspace will have projects 2 and 3
(and other
projects they need).
-- You can also password protect the slaveProjects workspace.
-- When team A thinks they have a new working(or atleast compilable)
"version" of projects 2 and 3, they can trigger of an fscript which
will
export the projects 1 and 2, possibly save it in version control.
-- team B can then trigger another fscript which will pull the code
from
version control, import the projects 1 and 2 into RepB's
slaveProjects
workspace, integrate it and recheck everything out.
Options
-- you can get fancy with the scripts
-- you can add the two scripts together to do the whole thing in one
shot.
However existense of many such repositories can cause integrate
failures and
you might not know where exactly it stopped. You need to log the
output to
keep track.
-- you should probably make the second script actually create a
temporary
workspace, and import projects there and integrate. This is in case
you had
many other projects in the slaveprojects workspace that need not be
integrated and rechecked out each time.
-- you could create an application in forte or VB etc.. to make this
process
more sophisticated.
Hope that gives you a start. Different locations definetly
adds more
complexity to this, but the concept should be the same. If you have
more
questions or need more help, I suggest you call Len Lopez at
612-594-2539
who has played around with this stuff a lot. He put in place a VB
app that
does most of the stuff for us and will probably make a presentation
at the
Forte Forum this year on the same topic.
Good Luck!
-Ravi Kalidindi
Born Info Svcs Group.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Delany [SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 10:27 AM
> To: 'Jim Rice'
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: how can two Forte installtion communicate
>
>
> Jim,
>
> Rajiv may not be referring to scenario 1, but I'm involved in
something
> like
> that.
> We're a bi-located team, and while we are trying to split up the
work to
> minimise the geographical dependancies, I'd be interested in
anything you
> might have to say about the best way to share code/repositories.
>
> Nick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Rice [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 08 February 1999 22:38
> To: Rajiv Srivastava
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: how can two Forte installtion communicate
>
>
> Rajiv,
>
> Can you elaborate ? I can see your questions leading toward at
least the 3
> following scenarios....
>
> 1. Are you asking about 2 different independent developer groups
which
> have
> only the internet as a possible connection pipe between them,
> or
> 2. Are you asking about 2 deployed applications which are the same
> application but deployed to environment production1 and redeployed
to
> environment production2
> or
> 3. Are you asking about 2 deployed applications whic are different
> applications and each is deployed to either
> 3a. a common deployment environment using the same
"Forte_NS_ADDRESS"
> 3b. two seperate deployment environements using the different
> "Forte_NS_ADDRESS" and therefore may even be on sepearte LAN/WAN's
>
> -Jim
>
> At 11:33 AM 2/8/99 , Rajiv Srivastava wrote:
> >Can somebody tell me that what r the possible way where two
different
> >independent Forte Installation can communicate to each other.
> >and share certain the information.
> >
> >thanking you in anticipation.
> >
> >Rajeev
> >
> >-
> >To unsubscribe, email '[email protected]' with
> >'unsubscribe forte-users' as the body of the message.
> >Searchable thread archive
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> >
> Jim Rice mailto:[email protected]
> Partner ConCall @ Feb 17
> http://www.forte.com/events/frameset_partners.html
> Forte Usr Mtg @ May9-12 http://forum99.forte.com
> Partner Tech Specialist Work#: 301-721-1910
>
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Hi,
I have similar arrangement here but for "user acceptence test". However,
may I remind you that when some objects/codes got checked out --> overwrite
with new import --> integrate --> check out again. Some funny things ( I
would say corruption ) may happen. I have one time that a normal old piece
of code got compilation error and no one can find out why. The last resort
is that I deleted everything and start from scratch again. Then everything
works.
Thus, I would suggest that from time to time, you should start out with a
new repository instead of using it over and over again in this fashion.
Maybe you can archive the old one as a version backup.
Regards,
Peter Sham.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kalidindi, Ravi CWT-MSP [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 1:10 AM
To: 'Nick Delany'; 'Jim Rice'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: how can two Forte installtion communicate
Nick...
We have a similar situation here. We have about seven teams,
each
with their own repositories with interdependent code.
Let me give you a simple scenario to explain how you can
make it
work:
Problem
--Team A is responsible for projects 1,2,3 and use repository RepA
--Team B is responsible for projects 4,5,6 adn use repository RepB.
--Project 2 is a supplier plan to project 5 and project 3 is a
supplier plan
to project 6.
Solution
--each repository is reponsible for some projects and these projects
can be
changed only in that repository.
--each repository also has a workspace called "SlaveProjects"
--This workspace has all the projects that are needed but are not
developed
by this team.
--These projects are checked out so that no one else can change them
-- so, RepB's slaveProjects workspace will have projects 2 and 3
(and other
projects they need).
-- You can also password protect the slaveProjects workspace.
-- When team A thinks they have a new working(or atleast compilable)
"version" of projects 2 and 3, they can trigger of an fscript which
will
export the projects 1 and 2, possibly save it in version control.
-- team B can then trigger another fscript which will pull the code
from
version control, import the projects 1 and 2 into RepB's
slaveProjects
workspace, integrate it and recheck everything out.
Options
-- you can get fancy with the scripts
-- you can add the two scripts together to do the whole thing in one
shot.
However existense of many such repositories can cause integrate
failures and
you might not know where exactly it stopped. You need to log the
output to
keep track.
-- you should probably make the second script actually create a
temporary
workspace, and import projects there and integrate. This is in case
you had
many other projects in the slaveprojects workspace that need not be
integrated and rechecked out each time.
-- you could create an application in forte or VB etc.. to make this
process
more sophisticated.
Hope that gives you a start. Different locations definetly
adds more
complexity to this, but the concept should be the same. If you have
more
questions or need more help, I suggest you call Len Lopez at
612-594-2539
who has played around with this stuff a lot. He put in place a VB
app that
does most of the stuff for us and will probably make a presentation
at the
Forte Forum this year on the same topic.
Good Luck!
-Ravi Kalidindi
Born Info Svcs Group.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Delany [SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 10:27 AM
> To: 'Jim Rice'
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: how can two Forte installtion communicate
>
>
> Jim,
>
> Rajiv may not be referring to scenario 1, but I'm involved in
something
> like
> that.
> We're a bi-located team, and while we are trying to split up the
work to
> minimise the geographical dependancies, I'd be interested in
anything you
> might have to say about the best way to share code/repositories.
>
> Nick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Rice [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 08 February 1999 22:38
> To: Rajiv Srivastava
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: how can two Forte installtion communicate
>
>
> Rajiv,
>
> Can you elaborate ? I can see your questions leading toward at
least the 3
> following scenarios....
>
> 1. Are you asking about 2 different independent developer groups
which
> have
> only the internet as a possible connection pipe between them,
> or
> 2. Are you asking about 2 deployed applications which are the same
> application but deployed to environment production1 and redeployed
to
> environment production2
> or
> 3. Are you asking about 2 deployed applications whic are different
> applications and each is deployed to either
> 3a. a common deployment environment using the same
"Forte_NS_ADDRESS"
> 3b. two seperate deployment environements using the different
> "Forte_NS_ADDRESS" and therefore may even be on sepearte LAN/WAN's
>
> -Jim
>
> At 11:33 AM 2/8/99 , Rajiv Srivastava wrote:
> >Can somebody tell me that what r the possible way where two
different
> >independent Forte Installation can communicate to each other.
> >and share certain the information.
> >
> >thanking you in anticipation.
> >
> >Rajeev
> >
> >-
> >To unsubscribe, email '[email protected]' with
> >'unsubscribe forte-users' as the body of the message.
> >Searchable thread archive
<URL:http://pinehurst.sageit.com/listarchive/>
> >
> Jim Rice mailto:[email protected]
> Partner ConCall @ Feb 17
> http://www.forte.com/events/frameset_partners.html
> Forte Usr Mtg @ May9-12 http://forum99.forte.com
> Partner Tech Specialist Work#: 301-721-1910
>
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    Rajeev
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