Re: Unsupported GPU for CS5
Hi Harm,
I hope it is appropriate to reply to this post. It seemed as good as any in this thread. I have read your posts for years and learn't a great deal from you - you seem to have a great deal of experience in this area. I'm having several rather strange issues with CS5, MPE, the GTX480, playback and artefacts which I am trusting you may be able to assist with. I think that this conversation might help others too as it bring together a lot of information. I'm more than happy to provide additional info but here is some basics to get us started. I will be as brief as I can.
The rig: Windows 7 64-Bit, ASUS P5Q Pro, 8GB RAM, Intel Q9650 Core 2 Quad 3.0GHz (OC'd at 3.51 GHz), Gigabyte GTX480 PSU (Core voltage up to 1125mV, Core clock OC'd to 730MHz), Corsair HX 850W PSU, 7TB Enterprise RAID 5 array (avg@700MB/sec W/R), Dell 30" and Dell 2408 for monitoring.
The CPU is watercooled and hums along between 20c - 26c degrees depending on load and the GPU is surprisingly cool even with the two monitors idling at around 60c and about 75c under heavy loads. So all is well and certainly powerful enough for HDV video editing I assume. My drivers are up to date and I have been running between the 257.21 series and 258.69 and 258.96 beta versions and am currently on the latter but am oscillating between them to test what works. All produce the same results. I have used driver sweeper and the usual processes for these tweaks.
I have been using CS4 for around a year editing HDV for documentary and corporate work and was previously using an 8800GTS @ stock clocks with a lesser 650W PSU. Playback was always smooth as silk and I had very few issues with PPro or AE for that matter. Sure rendering and encoding took a while but that was CS4!
So after upgrading amid the hype of CS5 and MPE, I moved perhaps too quickly to the GTX480 and applied the 'Hack' with the possibly incorrect assumption that we would see full Adobe support for these cards soon. I expected some instability/issues but am always up for new tech. I have worked in IT and media for 20 years, built all my machines for years and am technically proficient. But this issue has me stumped.
GPUSniffer:
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5>GPUSniffer.exe -k
Device: 0000000000304208 has video RAM(MB): 1536
Vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer string: GeForce GTX 480/PCI/SSE2
Version string: 3.0.0
OpenGL version as determined by Extensionator...
OpenGL Version 3.0
Supports shaders!
Supports BGRA -> BGRA Shader
Supports VUYA Shader -> BGRA
Supports UYVY/YUYV ->BGRA Shader
Supports YUV 4:2:0 -> BGRA Shader
Testing for CUDA support...
Found 1 devices supporting CUDA.
CUDA Device # 0 properties -
CUDA device details:
Name: GeForce GTX 480 Compute capability: 2.0
Total Video Memory: 1503MB
CUDA driver version: 3010
CUDA Device # 0 supported.
Completed shader test!
Internal return value: 7
The problem: Instead of better performance, everything has gone the opposite direction. I am experiencing intermittent playback and artefacts on some moving footage, the occasional hang/crash and one or two BSOD's, but quite rarely. Encoding flies however, what would normally take 1 hour to encode now takes 10 mins when direct from PPro and not the Media Encoder, which is amazing but not so useful in the edit when playback has degradated. Things playout but to my editing eye, I can see what looks like stuttering. In fact watching the playback head, it appears to be flashing when passing over some sequences and the result looks like drop frames. I'm in Sydney, OZ, so in PAL land and am acquiring and editing in 1440x1080/25p (SONY HVR-Z7P). It's all progressive, not interlaced for 99% of my footage. On top of this a test burn of MPEG2 DVD (widescreen PAL) produced jumps at every edit point when viewing on a plasma screen. WTF? Not only that, but it looked awful - colour was desaturated and there was a distinct drop in the red channel.
In addition, I am also seeing what looks like pixelation on some pans and tilts and god forbid what appears to be interlacing on complex lighting such as neon signs for example. People passing the camera up close in shot also seem to pixelate badly. None of this has ever ocurred before. Also, applying a simple so-called 'accelerated effect' such as Dip to Black or Cross dissolve brings the red render bar immediately. The type of improvements shown in this Adobe video http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-premiere-pro-cs5/gpuaccelerated-effect-performance-enhance ments/ appear to simply not apply in many cases. Other accelerated effects work fine and some non-accelerated effects seem to have improved! Another whacky thing is that if I do import an interlaced clip from say, a handycam from one of my Operator's 2nd unit cutaways and interpret footage and scale to frame size to bring it in, then apply 'Always deinterlace', apprently nothing happens. The footage looks exactly the same whereas in CS4 an immediate change was apparent to the interlacing.
Changes: The only change to the traditional setup I had with CS4 apart from hardware upgrades was movng the CS5 DB and cache to the RAID array as it was previously on the boot drive (tut tut I know, but it never affected performance. Go figure?). New projects re-indexed after this move and the timeline went green and all looked good. Until I started playback. That is when I really noticed things going wrong and still suspect the media cache and DB have something to do with this. Indexing is OFF on the array as well, as I know that it can cause performance hits as WIN hammers the drives constantly for info.
Now, I rarely have more than 3 layers of video including supers, so I am not pushing it. To make things even stranger, sometimes playback seems ok for a while but soon returns to this jerky, stuttering motion. As PPro has no fps monitor (ADOBE - new feature request please for 5.1.1) it's hard to tell what is coming out and I don't really want to install FRAPS to check.
Ghost in the Machine: What's going on Harm? Any idea's? What I am missing? Things seem unpredictable. It's killing me and my business. I realise the card is unsupported but I'm reading alot about people applying the hack and getting great results. Including yourself I believe with the 480.
Thoughts:
- Nvidia driver support in 358 series problem
- Bad card
- Tweaks/config in NTune wrong
- Adobe GTX480 support
- Background services vs. Programs - what's better?
- Some crazy setting in PPro I have wrong but can't find
- PhysX playing havoc with something
- HDMI out vs. DVI
- The flickering playhead is a giveaway - but what does it mean other than it is struggling? Why would this build struggle? This machine should be in the basement at CERN!
- The media cache and DB are corrupted or shouldn't be on the RAID (can move to a Raptor if needed).
- The array and boot drive need a defrag
- A big possibility might be rebuilding the current project from scratch. I have done the open new project, import old sequence, etc, to no avail. I can't find any info on how to completely rebuild a project sequence by deleting the cache and db completely and forcing PPro to remake all it's media reference associations on one or ALL projects. A handy feature if it doesn't exist Adobe!
Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated. Anyone else who is experiencing anything like this or can help (Adobe, Jeff, Chuck, Shooternz or other Community Pro's) PLEASE chime in!
Thanks Harm.
Thanks everyone.
syntax3ra wrote:
Can I ask if you think putting the MC and DB on a seperate drive would benefit more than being where it is on a RAID that runs @700MB/sec? Putting it on a drive 1/6th the speed can only benefit it if, as you say "magic happens" by spreading this data around. Is that right? Being in a different location is better than being 6 times faster?
Thanks!
I think what we're really trying to help you do here, is to eliminate variables. While your RAID is undoubtedly fast in sheer data thoughput, there could be some issue with latency or corruption through these often-accessed cache files that's causing you problems. Or not. Putting them on a non-RAID, relatively fast drive will help you eliminate that variable. And I don't think the cache files need a blazing fast HDD. Or the preview files. BUT, if all of this media is not sitting on the same (albeit, blazingly fast drive array), you might experience better playback. Or not. But, at least you'll know.
I will also chime in and say with the GPU-acceleration in the present build of CS5, I don't believe that it offers any no benefit to OC your GPU. Using GPU-Z, I've never seen a GPU load of more than 35% on the single GPU that CS5 uses. My GTX 470 won't even break a sweat. OC'ing this wouldn't change the throughput of only 35% of the load that is being utilized.
I know that there's the temptation to "crank it up to 11", but I think you should try to un-OC your CPU and GPU... and then check and see if this helps your playback issues. Or not. Maybe it's worth a shot...
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With all the interest of the "unsupported" GPUs, I thought it was time to start a specific thread.
Please post your questions and experiences.
Hacking is not advised and the unsupported cards are not ready for production use.
You've been warned!Found on cinema5d...
How to make Premiere CS5 work with GTX 295
by marvguitar on 01 May 2010 22:38
I figured out how to activate CUDA acceleration without a GTX 285 or Quadro... I'm pretty sure it should work with other 200 GPUs. Note that i'm using 2 monitors and there's a extra tweak to play with CUDA seamlessly with 2 monitors. Here are the steps: Step 1. Go to the Premiere CS5 installation folder.
Step 2. Find the file "GPUSniffer.exe" and run it in a command prompt (cmd.exe). You should see something like that:
Device: 00000000001D4208 has video RAM(MB): 896
Device: 00000000001D4208 has video RAM(MB): 896
Vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer string: GeForce GTX 295/PCI/SSE2
Version string: 3.0.0 OpenGL version as determined by Extensionator...
OpenGL Version 2.0
Supports shaders!
Supports BGRA -> BGRA Shader
Supports VUYA Shader -> BGRA
Supports UYVY/YUYV ->BGRA Shader
Supports YUV 4:2:0 -> BGRA Shader
Testing for CUDA support...
Found 2 devices supporting CUDA.
CUDA Device # 0 properties -
CUDA device details:
Name: GeForce GTX 295 Compute capability: 1.3
Total Video Memory: 877MB
CUDA Device # 1 properties -
CUDA device details:
Name: GeForce GTX 295 Compute capability: 1.3
Total Video Memory: 877MB
CUDA Device # 0 not choosen because it did not match the named list of cards
Completed shader test!
Internal return value: 7
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------- If you look at the last line it says the CUDA device is not chosen because it's not in the named list of card. That's fine. Let's add it. Step 3. Find the file: "cuda_supported_cards.txt" and edit it and add your card (take the name from the line: CUDA device details: Name: GeForce GTX 295 Compute capability: 1.3 So in my case the name to add is: GeForce GTX 295 Step 4. Save that file and we're almost ready. Step 5. Go to your Nvidia Drivercontrol panel (im using the latest 197.45) under "Manage 3D Settings", Click "Add" and browse to your Premiere CS5 install directory and select the executable file: "Adobe Premiere Pro.exe" Step 6. In the field "multi-display/mixed-GPU acceleration" switch from "multiple display performance mode" to "compatibilty performance mode" Step 7. That's it. Boot Premiere and go to your project setting / general and activate CUDA Hope this helps -
Unsupported GPU for CS5, part 2
In part 1 all the necessary steps were outlined. Many were successful. I was not. Maybe someone has some suggestions.
What happened:
1. Installed a GTX-480 with the latest drivers 197.75
2. Ran the 'Hack' instructions
3. Steps 1 thru 4 no problem.
4. Then step 5:
Step 5. Go to your Nvidia Drivercontrol panel (im using the latest 197.45) under "Manage 3D Settings", Click "Add" and browse to your Premiere CS5 install directory and select the executable file: "Adobe Premiere Pro.exe"
I selected "Adobe Premiere Pro.exe" in the CS5 directory, but:
"Adobe Premiere Pro CS4" is already available and "Add" does not work. You can't remove the CS4 version.
Does that imply that I first have to remove CS4 (deactivate, uninstall, reboot, reinstall CS4 programs from the MC that I want to keep and activate again) before adding CS5 in the driver control panel? Or is there another proven method or other suggestions?See if you have another file named nvwsapps.xml, either in the folder you listed or in
c:\windows\system32. That file contains the settings for the workstation applications and that's what the Quadro driver uses, but it's sometimes included in the GeForce driver install package. Here's the one for GeForce197.45 WHQL, but unfortunately, it doesn't have any Adobe entries except Photoshop CS4. If you rename nvapps.xml to nvapps.old and nvwsapps.xml to nvapps.xml, the nVidia Control Panel will then be able to display and modify those settings. But unfortunately, until somebody with a Quadro responds, you are somewhat stuck.
<FILE>
<INFO Number="1682306701"/>
<PROFILESET>
<PROFILE Label="3D App - Default Global Settings" Itemtype="predefined"/>
<PROFILE Label="3D App - Game Development">
<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits2" Value="0x00000002" Default="0x00000002" Itemtype="predefined"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits" Value="0x00001000" Default="0x00001000" Itemtype="predefined"/>
</PROFILE>
<PROFILE Label="3D App - Modeling AFR">
<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits2" Value="0x00000002" Default="0x00000002" Itemtype="predefined"/>
<PROPERTY Label="multichip_rendering_mode" Value="0x00000001" Default="0x00000001" Itemtype="predefined"/>
</PROFILE>
<PROFILE Label="3D App - Visual Simulation">
<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits" Value="0x80001000" Default="0x80001000" Itemtype="predefined"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits2" Value="0x00000002" Default="0x00000002" Itemtype="predefined"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_z_test" Value="0x00010000" Default="0x00010000" Itemtype="predefined"/>
<PROPERTY Label="multichip_rendering_mode" Value="0x00000002" Default="0x00000002" Itemtype="predefined"/>
</PROFILE>
<PROFILE Label="3D OpenGL Stereo" OS_TYPE="Vista">
<PROPERTY Label="ws_stereo_support" Value="0x00000001" Default="0x00000001" Itemtype="predefined"/>
</PROFILE>
<PROFILE Label="Abaqus CAE / Viewer">
<APPLICATION Label="ABQcaeG.exe" Name="Abaqus CAE" OS_TYPE="Vista"/>
<APPLICATION Label="ABQvwrG.exe" Name="Abaqus Viewer" OS_TYPE="Vista"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_overlay_support" Value="0x00000001" Default="0x00000001" Itemtype="predefined" OS_TYPE="XP"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits2" Value="0x00000002" Default="0x00000002" Itemtype="predefined"/>
</PROFILE>
<PROFILE Label="Adobe Photoshop CS4">
<APPLICATION Label="Photoshop.exe"/>
<APPLICATION Label="pixel_bender_toolkit.exe"/>
<APPLICATION Label="sniffer_gpu.exe"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_multimon_buffer" Value="0x00000001" Default="0x00000001" Itemtype="predefined"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits2" Value="0x00000422" Default="0x00000422" Itemtype="predefined" OS_TYPE="Vista"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits2" Value="0x00000402" Default="0x00000402" Itemtype="predefined" OS_TYPE="XP"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_single_back_depth_buffer" Value="0x00000000" Default="0x00000000" Itemtype="predefined"/>
</PROFILE>
<PROFILE Label="Altair applications">
<APPLICATION Label="HC10_wxp.exe" Name="Altair HyperCrash 10.0"/>
<APPLICATION Label="HC90_wxp.exe" Name="Altair HyperCrash 9.0"/>
<APPLICATION Label="hmopengl.exe" Name="Altair HyperMesh"/>
<APPLICATION Label="hst.exe" Name="Altair HyperStudy"/>
<APPLICATION Label="hstdss.exe" Name="Altair HyperStudy DSS"/>
<APPLICATION Label="hvp.exe" Name="Altair HyperViewPlayer"/>
<APPLICATION Label="hw.exe" Name="Altair HyperWorks Desktop"/>
<APPLICATION Label="hx.exe" Name="Altair HyperXtrude"/>
<APPLICATION Label="hyperbeam.exe" Name="Altair HyperBeam"/>
<APPLICATION Label="hypercrash.exe" Name="Altair HyperCrash 8.0"/>
<APPLICATION Label="optistruct.exe" Name="Altair OptiStruct"/>
<APPLICATION Label="osm_post.exe" Name="Altair OsSmooth"/>
<APPLICATION Label="osm_pre.exe" Name="Altair OsSmooth"/>
<APPLICATION Label="osm_solve.exe" Name="Altair OsSmooth"/>
<APPLICATION Label="ossmooth.exe" Name="Altair OsSmooth"/>
<APPLICATION Label="templex.exe" Name="Altair Templex"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits2" Value="0x00000002" Default="0x00000002" Itemtype="predefined"/>
</PROFILE>
<PROFILE Label="ANSYS applications">
<APPLICATION Label="ANSYS.exe" Name="ANSYS applications"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits2" Value="0x00000002" Default="0x00000002" Itemtype="predefined"/>
</PROFILE>
<PROFILE Label="ASCON KOMPAS-3D">
<APPLICATION Label="KOMPAS.exe" Name="ASCON KOMPAS-3D"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_app_support_bits2" Value="0x00000200" Default="0x00000200" Itemtype="predefined"/>
</PROFILE>
<PROFILE Label="Autodesk 3ds Max">
<APPLICATION Label="3dsmax.exe" Name="Autodesk 3ds Max"/>
<PROPERTY Label="ws_application_key" Value="0x00000003" Default="0x00000003" Itemtype="predefined"/>
<PROFILE Label="Base Profile"/>
</PROFILESET>
</FILE>
Message was edited by: jabloomf1230 I edited the middle out of the file, to make the thread more readable. -
Here's some interesting information.
"I asked Adobe to confirm my findings and the following statement: "When using an approved NVIDIA card, CS5.5 performs better using cards with more CUDA cores." A few days later I received a short but to-the-point email confirming that my statement is accurate."
Seems CS5.5 takes better advantage of the CUDA cores in a card, and additional cores now means some significant improvements.
http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/News/Feature/Review-Adobe-CS5.5-Production-Premium-74852.h tmBill,
Thanks for the CS5 5.0.3 results with various GPUs. That 9500 GT is really hobbled by its slow, low-bandwidth DDR3 graphics memory: The MPEG-2 DVD encoding performance with the 9500 GT is nearly three times slower than with even an ATi/AMD GPU. What's more, the H.264 Blu-ray encoding performance is more than two times slower with the 9500 GT than with an ATi GPU.
By extension, the really sluggish performance also applies to the GT 220 and to a lesser extent the GT 430 and the DDR3 versions of the GT 240 and GT 440.
And I was surprised with the results from the GTX 550 Ti: Despite fewer CUDA cores and 192-bit memory bit width (specifically, the GTX 550 Ti has one 512MB chip and two 256MB memory chips, for a total of 1GB on a 192-bit bus), it actually outpaced the older GTX 260 Core 216 despite the latter's 448-bit memory bit width because the GTX 550 Ti uses DDR5 memory versus the lower-bandwidth DDR3 memory on the GTX 260.
So while the GTX 550 Ti is a better BFTB than the GTX 260 and most of the higher-end GeForces, your testing also shows that equipping such a high-end editing system with a really cheap GeForce such as a GT 220 would have thrown that entire system off balance. (Or put it this way, equipping an expensive editing rig with such a cheapo graphics card is like putting more and more mucus inside someone's chest.) -
NVIDIA GPU FOR CS5 / GTS vs GTX
I'm having a new computer built, and the GPU's I'm considering are either an NVIDIA GTS 450 1GB, or GTX 460 1GB.
I'm aware that the GTX cards are typically twice as fast as their "equivalent" GTS cards, and if I was into Gaming, or Video editing, the GTX would be a "no brainer".
My interest, however, is primarily Photo editing in Photoshop, and it's not clear to me weather the faster speed would have any significant advantage in that regard?
If not, I'd rather invest the additional $85 for the GTX card into something more beneficial, such as additional RAM,etc.
Best regards,
LeighMy own experience is that any card that scores 500 or higher on the benchmark on this site is excellent for Photoshop:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/
The cards you have proposed both score hugely more than that, so I would suggest the less expensive model will more than please you.
Given that Photoshop relies upon OpenGL, and OpenGL development by the video card makers is probably more driven by gaming than anything else, a good gaming card will likely be good as well for Photoshop.
-Noel -
After reading all the posts, I have decided on an experiment.
My intention is to upgrade to a new system by November.. I7 930, new board, memory etc.
I currently am running an Intel Q6600, 2.4 GHz, with 8 gig of ram, and a GEForce 8800GTS.
My thought was to buy the video card first, GTX480, and try it on my old system (above) to see how much difference it would make in performance of CS5, including trying the crack.
My concern is the PCIE connector on my board vs the PCIE 2 the 280 calls for. All my reading tells me the PCIE 2 is backwards compatible to PCIE.
Let me know if I am making a huge mistake.Branched and moved.
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Hi, I have a GPU question here.
I’m working with both AVI and AVCHD files (Adobe PPro CS4) and I’m planning to migrate to CS5 soon. Can you please advice me what should be the minimum specs of the GPU for taking advantage of the Mercury feature of CS5? What brand?
This is my current card: MSI N250-GTS-2D1G OC 1GB GDDR3 PCI-E
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/msi-msi-n250-gts-2d1g-oc-1gb-gddr3-pci-e-video-card -n250-gts-2d1g-oc/10136155.aspx?path=43a8c5e5a1a9380698ff458429e6507cen02
Taking into consideration my workflow (2-3 video layers, color correction across the layers, mostly AVI files), will I notice a significant improvement if I switch for example to GeForce 285 or I should rather stick with my current GPU and invest the money into additional RAM?
Thanks!The 285GTX right now is the way to go unless you want to try this until the Fermi support is out or with a 480GTX
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/629557?tstart=0
We will be testing the 480GTX with this and see where the known issues are with rendering. -
hello I want to buy a new computer I have adobe CS 5.5 what type of grahic card is supposrted in (aspecially after efect) I could chose etween 1) NVIDIA GeForce GT 755M Intel HD Graphics 4600, 2)2 x NVIDIA GeForce GT 755M SLI c)NVIDIA GeForce GTX 850M
What card will be the best for GPU acceleration and work?thank You one more guestion if I can.
if you need to choose between those tree what is the best for After effect?
2014-06-11 23:58 GMT+02:00 Todd_Kopriva <[email protected]>:
GPU for After Effects CS5.5 created by Todd_Kopriva
<https://forums.adobe.com/people/Todd_Kopriva> in After Effects - View
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OEM Apple nVidia GeForce 7300 GT is on Adobe's list of unsupported GPUs for Open GL rendering-
My Mac Pro's Radeon X1900 XT is retired to my computer grave yard, in my basement, but going back to the OEM Apple nVidia GeForce 7300 GT, which shipped with my Mac Pro, brought some encouraging results.
When I first got the 2007 Mac Pro, in 2009, I was running it in Mac OS 10.4.4.11 Tiger and Photoshop CS4 (11.0.0) would disable Open GL rendering when it detected the stock nVidia GeForce 7300 GT card, which was on Adobe's list of unsupported graphics GPUs. So, I purchased a refurbished Apple Radeon X1900 XT. This card allowed Photoshop CS4 and Bridge CS4 to enable Open GL Rendering. Over the last year, the Radeon X1900 XT graphics card has been creating stripes on my screen when it is running hot and sometimes the dual displays would just shut off while I was working. Also, the computer was doing hardware freezes about once a day. This morning the Mac Pro shut down it's dual displays, while I was working, and I had to do another cold shut off in order to restart. I then manually shut the computer down and did a manual boot-up so that Snow Leopard would employ disk maintenance.
I shut the computer off and pulled the Radeon X1900 XT card and re-inserted the OEM Apple nVidia GeForce 7300 GT card. Now I'm running Mac OS 10.6.8 Snow Leopard with Photoshop CS4 (11.0.2) instead of Photoshop CS4 (11.0.0).
Now, the updated Photoshop CS4, under the newer OS, is enabling Open GL rendering instead of disabling it. This graphics card's hardware limitation is now fixed, so I see no reason to buy the ATI Radeon HD 5770 Graphics Upgrade Kit for my Mac Pro:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Apple/6615718/
Some who have purchased the Apple ATI Radeon HD 5770 say they still got the striping on their display when the Radeon HD 5770 card was running hot, just like with the Radeon X1900 XT.
So far, the OEM Apple nVidia GeForce 7300 GT is working fine and I'm not getting any striping on my displays with no display shut-offs or hardware freezes.
I'm glad to have Adobe's Open GL rendering enabled with an OEM graphics GPU that runs cool and requires no imbedded cooling fan. Apples OEM nVidia GeForce 7300 GT, for the Mac Pro, is on Adobe's list of unsupported GPUs for Open GL rendering under Photoshop CS4, so why is it supported now? Is that just one of the benefits of the Photoshop CS4 11.0.2 update?Chirs, thanks for your info but you are talking about Photoshop CS5, which does not support OpenGL drawing on the Mac nVidia 7300 or the Mac Radeon X1900. As long as I am using Photoshop CS4 and have not yet upgraded to CS5, I can continue to use the Mac nVidia 7300 and get limited OpenGL drawing support from Photoshop. And it is working fine.
Today I found out that Adobe has updated their OpenGL support information and apparemntly when I upgraded my Mac from Tiger to Leopard, and later, I gained Photoshop's Open GL support for the Apple nVidia GeForce 7300 GT:
Supported video cards (Mac OS)
Intel-based Macintosh, tested on Mac OS X 10.4.11 and 10.5.4
17-inch iMac x1600, 128 MB
ATI HD 2600, 256 MB
MacBook Air intel GMA X3100
Nvidia Quadrofx 4500, 512 MB
Radeon x1900, 512 MB
Intel-based Macintosh, tested on Mac OS X 10.5.4 only
8800 GT, 512 MB
iMac 8800 GS, 512 MB
Nvidia 8600M, 256 MB
The following Power PC cards work in Photoshop CS4: Nvidia 7800 (256 MB), Nvidia GeForce 7800 GT, and the Nvidia Quadro FX 4500.
Note: OpenGL is enabled for the GeForce 7300GT, but Advanced Drawing and 3D Acceleration are disabled.
So, when I upgrade to Photoshop CS5, I will need to replace my video card with something compatible with Photoshop CS5s OpenGL drawing engine. Do you think the ATI Radeon HD 5770 Graphics Upgrade Kit, for my Mac Pro, will get Photoshop CS5 to make OpenGL drawing availible and active?
I appriciate an Adobe employee, like yourself, providing the information I need to make the right hardware choices when upgrading to Adobe CS5. -
What laptop to get for CS5 or CS6...
Increasingly there appear questions about which laptop to get for CS5/6.
First, the question is why a laptop and why not a desktop?
Laptops are always at least 2 to 3 times slower than a desktop, they are significantly more expensive than a desktop with the same or better performance and they need a wall outlet to use. Batteries don't last long enough for editing and you need a wall outlet for external components (disks, monitor, BD-R etc.) that are required. All that makes a laptop more like an expensive, underpowered luggable machine.
For video editing machines it is always best to use a machine for video editing only and use a second system for other applications and this is especially true for much weaker laptops than desktops.
So, let me repeat the question: What are the considerations to use a laptop over a desktop? You have to be very clear about it to sell the idea to the one responsible for the budget. You also have to be clear about the performance penalty, if you decide to go forward with a laptop.
OK, we got this out of the way. You have good arguments to get a laptop and you have succesfully sold the idea to the one responsible for the available budget.
So what are your choices and what do you need to look for in terms of specs?
First, let me remind you of the article Adobe Forums: What PC to build? An update... because it contains a number of relevant issues that influence your choice. Basically there are three approaches possible:
Get a laptop from a brand company like Asus, Dell, HP, Lenovo, Toshiba and the like.
Get a customizable laptop from specialist companies like Sager or Clevo.
Get a custom builder like ADK Video Editing build you a system tuned to your needs.
All these solutions have a number of common components, under the assumption you want to edit HD material:
CPU: at least a quad core i7 processor, preferably with hyper-threading. The faster the better.
GPU: at least a nVidia GTX 660M or better with 1+ GB DDR5 memory.
Disks: at least 2 internal 7200 RPM disks.
Connections: minimum is eSATA plus USB3 ports.
Monitor: at least 1920 x 1080 resolution and 15.4" screen size or bigger.
Memory: bare minimum is 8 GB but workable is only 16 or 32 GB.
Looking at brand names one may come up with a short-list like:
Now, in their standard configurations they are all lacking on some aspects. Insufficient memory, only single disk, or lacking connections. If these can not be configured to meet the above practical minimum requirements, where at least 2 disks is the most crucial, there is only companies like Sager and Clevo to look at. Something like this is about bare minimum, because of the underspecced video card:
Despite the price this will still be around 3 times slower than an equally priced desktop. If that performance penalty is too big, then one can consider a system like this:
Again, despite the price, this system will still be more than 2 times slower than a far less expensive desktop, but hey, you knew that when you decided on a laptop and got approval for the budget, right?
The last option is to go to a custom builder to get a laptop that is exactly tuned to your needs and budget. It will not be less expensive than the Sager route, but it will get you the best balance between performance and price for your needs. Additionally, you get great service if ever needed.
To sum this up, a laptop is a compromise. A compromise in performance and price. It is not for the faint of heart, faint of wallet. It is not a laptop, it is a luggable system on a wall outlet. An alternative is coasters under a desktop system and you can use other wall outlets as well, but with a better price and far better performance.
I hope this will help people to decide if they really need a laptop and if affirmative, to get the right system for their needs.As usual, Harm has provided very knowledgeable and helpful advice in this matter. I would like to add that if you are inclined, and feel it's worth a gamble.....New Egg has been selling refurbished Asus i7 laptops that have almost all the necessary components for a lower price than normal. You may have to add more memory yourself and add a quality SSD for OS and programs and pagefile, ( cloned from the supplied drive). Then, use the supplied drive for media and all else in the second bay....or, as an emergency backup of your original configuration. I am not sure,but I think if you put a second Marvell controlled SSD in the second bay instead,( Corsair Pro or Plextor Pro...no Sandforce), you may get the benefit of SATA III speeds from BOTH drives for best laptop performance.....I am not sure if earlier criticisms of SSD degradation still apply with these newer Marvell controlled SSDs.
I DO know that my old Asus G73JW tested MUCH FASTER on Harm's PPBM5 benchmark when I added extra memory,( from 8 to 14GB ), AND used a Corsair Force 120GB SATA II SSD in each of the two internal drive bays. On that site you can see similar laptops to mine performing way slower using less memory and conventional spinning HDDs. At the time, I was careful to choose SSDs that had a high read AND write speed. I have had no issues with my SSDs. I also have used the Seagate Momentus XT hybrid HDD as project drive.....and scored lower on the PPBM test,( not submitted).
Harm is right.....any laptop will not approach the performance of a good desktop setup....not to mention PPro CS 6 appears to be even more powerful and demanding than the 5.03 I'm using. People are reporting needing at least 32GB memory and more than 2GB video card memory to get better performance.
Someone posted about Exotic PC selling upgraded laptops, ( some Asus) with up to 32GB memory and muliple HDD configurations....you may be able to upgrade a laptop similarly yourself for less money. Watch the sales at Tiger Direct and New Egg....you may find some thing workable. -
Another "will this set-op be OK for CS5.5?" post.
This is yet another "is the computer I want good enough for CS5.5" question. Before I begin I'll ask you to please forgive my ignorance and the length of this post. I'm new to having to care about computer hardware. In the past any decent PC has met my needs, but I'm no longer finding that to be the case as I now have a need to edit video.
So I'll start with my particular needs. I need portability. I'm a student and direct a summer camp. In my role at camp I have identified the need to improve our camp promotional material, and that's where the video editing comes in. I'll be shooting and editing several promotional shorts and a couple of documentary style shorts using DSLR footage and perhaps a little camcorder or two. After much research, and playing around with some free trial software, I've settled on CS5.5, but there's only one problem, my computer just isn't up to the task. Conveniently enough, my current computer has seen better days and it's time to upgrade anyways, so I've been researching and shopping around trying to find an appropriate computer. As portability is a must, and I can't afford a decent desktop and a laptop (and even if I could always transferring data back and forth would be annoying), I've been looking at laptops. It seems like any off-the shelf laptop that is well suited to run adobe isn't really all that portable. Sure you can transport it a lot easier than a desktop, but you can't expect to get a full day of battery life out of it, nor is it a reasonable weight to carry all over creation (my point is that a 17" laptop is out). So I did a little digging, and after reading a lot of posts on this forum and a lot of information from other sources I think I've come up with a solution. I'm looking for input into potential problems any tech-savvy people see with my idea, and sales reps for dell aren't tech savvy, so I figured this was a good place to find out how well adobe would run on my proposed set-up (I'm not a pro, and won't be editing feature length films, so I don't think I need the same performance as a tricked out desktop, I just need it to perform well with as few hold ups as possible).
Here's what I've come up with:
Dell XPS 14z:
Intel core i-7 2640M (2.8GHz, with "turbo boost" up to 3.50GHz)
8 GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM
750 GB SATA, 7200rpm hard drive
Nvidia Geforce 520M 1GB graphics card
The only information on screen resolution I could find on the Dell web-site was "true 720p HD display" after reading a few reviews, I found the specs were lower than the minimum recommended by Adobe, I forget exactly what they are though.
So this computer is more than I would ever need for my non-video editing needs. On paper it's a nice little laptop, a little pricey ($1300!), but they can be had at a very reasonable price ($700 - $800) refurbished from the Dell online outlet. None-the-less I can see several problems with this set-up.
First is the Display: it's inadequate. That's easily solved by using an external monitor, and you can get a pretty decent monitor off of tiger direct for less than $200. I can tolerate video editing at a desk, I need portability for other applications.
Second is the hard drive. From reading this forum I understand that editing with only one hard drive can slow things down quite a bit. I was wondering how big a deal this really is for the casual editor? There are adaptors that allow you to place a second hard drive where the optical drive is in this laptop. If it's necessary, I plan on putting a second 750GB 7200 rpm HDD where the optical drive is. Problem solved, right? Does anyone see any problems with this idea? My next question about the hard drive topic is: how much would a third hard drive really benefit me? And would data transfer using an external HDD with a USB 3.0 connection be fast enough to be a viable option for a third drive? Either way I could pick up an appropriate hard drive and caddy for a little under $175 and around $100 for an external HDD with USB 3.0 to be used as a third drive if necessary.
The third potential problem is the RAM. It seems there are a lot of opinions out there about how much is enough. Is 8 GB adequate? According to intel's web site this particular processor is compatible with up to 16GB of RAM, and after searching various forums I found a couple instances of people expanding their RAM on this computer to 16GB with no issues. I understand that I can replace the current 2x4GB set up with either 1x4GB + 1X8GB or 2x8GB to give either a total of 12 or 16GB of RAM. Is this necessary or even beneficial? 8GB would be more than enough for anything else I do, and since I have little experience with video editing I thought I'd ask those who know. Is a RAM upgrade necessary? Using this configuration I could update the RAM to 12 GB for around $100 and to 16 GB for around $200.
Finally, the graphics card that comes with this computer isn't on the list of cards recommended by Adobe. I understand that this is because it doesn't support CUDA, how much of an issue is this? Will I be able to efficiently edit video without a recommended card?
The point of all the numbers is this: 800+200+175+100=1,275. For $1275ish it seems to me I could get a very reasonable video editing set up that's still portable. That's less than the sticker price on these laptops, and a lot less than a mac book pro, which is everyone's first recommendation when I mention I want to use the computer for video editing. This seems like a very reasonable price for a laptop with an intel i7 2.8GHz, two 750GB 7200rpm HDD's, 12GB of RAM, and an external monitor for when I want to sit down and edit. Am I delusional in thinking this would run well using CS5.5?
So I guess the point is this. Life is about trade offs, and since I primarily need portability and I'm not a professional (just an anal consumer with high standards :), I'm willing to trade a little bit of video editing performance for the improved portability. I want the opinion of those who have experience using CS5.5 with various set-ups, does my proposed set-up seem like a reasonable trade-off? Are the upgrades even neccessary? Would they be enough to provide a reasonable editing experience? Any other advice (besides buying a desktop or a wicked expensive 17" laptop that weighs two to three times as much and chews through battery life)?
Thanks for sticking with this and giving me any feedback. It's appreciated!Benson,
Glad the comments were helpful!
Regarding RAM, the following test results were mine from an old thread:
"...RAM size: increasing from 4GB to 8GB doubled the MPE GPU performance [11 sec. vs. 6 sec.] and improved the MPEG2-DVD performance [122 sec. vs. 91 sec.]; the other tests only improved marginally. Increasing from 8GB to 16GB made significant additional improvements to the MPEG2-DVD time [91 sec. vs. 37 sec.]; all other tests hardly changed at all". [Note that my testing, and current system, run 5.0.3, not 5.5, but I suspect that these results are still probably reasonable for your situation.]
Thread was: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3465135 (How changes to CPU speed, RAM size, and drives impacted my PPBM5 score)
Regarding graphics card RAM, either card would work just fine for you. User's that have a need for massive frame sizes might benefit from the 3GB model, but for normal HD work the 1.5 will be fine.
Regards,
Jim -
New PC Build for CS5 Master Suite
Hi,
I'm building a new PC to use with the CS5 Master Suite of programs (amongst others) and am looking for a little advice.
I've already read through lots of posts here and got some valuable advice, however there are so many different options available that I still have some questions. I hope you can help.
System will be used for web design, graphic design, photo editing and video (inc HD).
Here is the component list I've put together so far:
1. Motherboard
Asus P6X58D Premium Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-379-AS
£243.00
2. CPU
Intel Core i7 930 2.80GHz (Bloomfield) (Socket LGA1366)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-318-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat= 1272
£222.00
3. Memory
Corsair Dominator Tri Channel 6GB (3x2GB) PC3 - 12800 1600MHz DDR3
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-269-CS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat= 1389
£190.00
4.System HD
Western Digital VelociRaptor 150GB 10000RPM SATA-II 16MB Cache
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-236-WD&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat =167
£135.00
5a.Storage HD's
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-082-SA&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat =1279
£57.00
5b.OR
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-336-WD&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat =1279
£77.00
6a. Quiet Case
Coolermaster Sileo 500 Silent Case - Black
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-164-CM
£63.00
6b. OR
Antec Solo Quiet Mini Tower Case
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-058-AN&tool=3
£73.00
6c. OR
Antec Sonata III Piano Black Quiet Case
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-073-AN&tool=3
£105.00
7a. CPU Fan/Cooling
Noctua NH-D14 Dual Radiator CPU Cooler
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-011-NC
£67.00
7b. OR
Corsair H50 CPU Watercooling
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-002-CS
£67.00
8a. Graphics Card
Asus NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1526MB
http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=46710
£435.00
8b. OR
nVidia GeForce GTX 470 PCI-Expres VGA Card 1280MB
Eclipse Computers
£312.00
8c. OR
PNY Quadro FX 1800 768MB
£266.00
9a. Quiet Power Supply
Corsair HX 750W ATX Modular SLI Compliant Power Supply
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-018-CS&groupid=701&catid=123&subca t=1084
£130.00
9b. OR
Corsair HX 1000W ATX Modular SLI Compliant Power Supply
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-012-CS&groupid=701&catid=123&subca t=1084
£195.00
10. Windows 7 Pro 64Bit
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit - OEM
Overclockers
£120.00
1. Has been recommended on these forums. Good to have USB3.0.
2. CPU is affordable and fast, with the ability to overclock it if I feel the need for a bit more speed in the future.
3. Would love 12GB, but will start with 6GB and perhaps add more later.
4. Started looking at Solid State Drives as I love the comments about how fast they load programs, etc., however as they are still really expensive felt that going with a fast standard drive would be best. As I plan on having a dual boot system, I would get two of these. One would have OS, CS5 and all my other software installed and the other one would have the minimum for CS5 installed and the OS tweaked for performance with video editing.
5. Both seem like great drives. Anyone any preference? Would plan on getting two and use one to store video rushes and the other for previews and the page file. Would getting a HD with a 6GB/s interface be worth it?
6. I want a quiet case and one that's no higher than 45cm. I already own the Antec Solo and I like the elastic HD mounting. Anyone any preference?
7. Noctua comes recommended on these forums, however am concerned with it's size. Love the idea of water cooling an the H50 system make it easier and less fuss being a closed system. Final choice must be quiet and I've read differing reviews on both.
8. Can't wait to use the MPE, so want a decent card. Torn between getting a cheaper card and upgrading later or spending the money now on a GTX480 and doing the software hack until fully supported.
9. With a GTX480 would a 750w PSU be enough?
GRAPHICS CARD
I've read reports of the GTX480 not being faster than the 2XX version card, however am I not correct in saying that the 2XX cards are no longer being sold? Should I be looking for a card from a particular manufacturer, i.e. Asus, Gainward, Point of View, Gigabyte? Or even Nvidia themselves?
I am worried about the heat generated by the GTX480 and the associated fan noise to cool it. Any thoughts?
Love the water cooling solution, perhaps some day. http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-480-liquid-cooling-danger-den-review/1
HD SET-UP
C:
WD VelociRaptor 150GB
Main System
C:
WD VelociRaptor 150GB
Video System
D:
DVD Burner
E:
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB
Video rushes
F:
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB
Video previews / Page File
G:
1.5TB
Other storage
H:
1.5TB
Other storage
DUAL BOOT
For my dual boot, has anyone had experience of using a HD caddy like this one? http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172727
I read a review which said that there was no real speed difference as there is no interface card, just a cable to the motherboard. It would make my dual boot less complicated to set-up as I wouldn't need to use Win 7 to dual boot or use 3rd party software like Acronis OS Selector. It would also free up space for a further internal HD.
PREMIERE OUTPUT TO A HDMI SCREEN
I've been going back and forward on the best solution to get a proper output of my timeline in Premiere to an external monitor. I was set to go with the Matrox MX02 Mini, however some here have said they're unstable (to a degree). Although with the CS5 drivers not out yet, perhaps it's too early to say.
Although none of my video work has been for broadcast (so far), I see a great benefit from being able to preview my timeline on a TV screen as opposed to a PC monitor. I will be running two screens so I need both outputs from the graphics card.
I look forward to receiving your collective wisdom.Here are the components I plan to buy this week:
Description
Inc VAT
1000W Corsair CMPSU-1000HXUK, ATX, EPS12V, PS/2, Modular Power Supply, UK Version, 5 Year Warranty
£184.11
300GB Western Digital WD3000HLFS VelociRaptor, SATA 3Gb/s, 10000rpm, 16MB Cache, 4.2 ms
£154.78
Coolermaster ATCS 840 Classic Full Tower Aluminum Case, Black w/o PSU
£143.31
1TB Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ, OEM
(2x) £96.30
Sony AD-5240S-0B 24x DVDR 12xDVDDL DVDRW x8/-RWx6 SATA Black
£14.99
12GB (6x2GB) Corsair Dominator, DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600), CAS 8-8-8-24, DHX, XMP, DF, 1.65V
£357.34
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit, Single, - OEM
£110.53
Intel Core i7 930 D0 SLBKP Bloomfield 45nm, 2.8 GHz, QPI 4.8GT/s, 8MB Cache, 20x Ratio, 130W, Retail
£236.37
1280MB Asus GTX 470, 40nm, 3348MHz GDDR5, GPU 607MHz, Shader 1215MHz, 448 Cores, 2xDVI,mini HDMI
£293.13
Asus P6X58D-E, Intel X58, S1366, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), DDR3 1333/1600/2000, SATA 3Gb/s RAID, ATX
£168.22
Noctua NH-D14 Dual Radiator CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366/LGA1156/LGA775/AM2/AM2)
£66.99
Noctua NF-P12 Vortex-Control 120mm Quiet Case Fan - 3 Pin
£17.61
Noctua NF-S12B ULN Ultra Low Noise 120mm Cooling Fan, 500/700 RPM
£16.99
Plus a couple of PSU to motherboard extension cables and Windows 7 Pro. It was mentioned by someone that the CPU thermal paste you get with the HN-D14 is fine, so no need to buy anything else.
One extra fan (NF-S12B) to cool hard drives and the other for somewhere else in the case. Perhaps I don't need these.
I presume that I should try and get an OEM CPU as I'll not need the heatsink and fan that'll be in the retail version?
I'm just waiting for Scan to get the case back in stock. Should be today. All priced at Scan, except last three items which are from Overclockers.
Anyone any final thoughts or tips? -
Mac Conversion for CS5 Nightmare
After seeing the FCP Supermeet at NAB this year I decided to make the switch to CS5.5
I took the following Mac and made these changes to upgrade the Mac in prep for CS5.5:
Intel Mac 3,1 Quad Core 2008
3Ghz
Up'ed the Ram to 32Gb DDR2
Clean Install (Erase/Reformat) 320Gb 7200RPM Operating System Drive and installed 64 bit Snow Leopard
Installed updates to make Snow Leopard 10.6.7 version
Installed base driver for new Quadro 4000 for the Mac graphics card (because of Apple partial support you have to use an older graphics card to install this driver BEFORE you install the Quadro 4000 physically)
Physically installed the Quadro 4000
Installed the Cuda driver
Updated the Cuda driver to current driver using the Cuda Panel interface
Installed CS5.5 from DVD disc set
Have separate 750Gb 7200RPM media drives
Have an external 600mbps read/write dual channed 0 Raid array for media as well
NIGHTMARE!
Can barely play 1 track of h.264 video/audio on an HDSLR timeline preset
Can barely play 1 track fo video/audio on XDCAM EX 720p 24fps that comes with Adobe CS5 Classroom in a Book
Playback stutters and drops frames, audio glitches even when Playback Resolution is dropped down to 1/2 and 1/4 resolution
I have used both the Playback with Mercury and GPU acceleration and Mercury Engine Software only - same resulting stuttering playback
Watching graphical CPU usage when playing back single track and there seems to be plenty of headroom
Media is stored on drive and raid separate from operating system drive. Scratch drive is on drive separate from Op Sys drive
The only out of spec component with this Mac is I am missing "Core Audio sound card"
But I have seen all sorts of Mac laptops running multiple tracks of HD with all kinds of effects applied and they played/scrubbed through the composition like butter.
Any idea - this MacPro tower with 32Gb and Quadro 4000 cuda card should tear it up with CS5.5All our other edit bays are still at 32bit Leopard and are on jobs.
We pulled this one and did the noted conversion that we are having the problems with.
I guess your testing is both good news - the 3,1 model CAN be converted over and do a decent job.
I assume your co-worker's 3,1 had a Quadro 4000 for the Mac graphics card?
No choppy dropped frames at 1/2 or 1/4 playback resolution?
Bad news is the only idea I have left is start all over again and see if that changes it.
One new item to note, this morning on boot-up, when opening the "About this Mac" panel, the internal bong sound starts going off repeatedly (as if you are holding down a keyboard key continuously. And the scroll bars could not be used - when you drag one down and let go, they pop back up to the top. The only way to stop this all was to re-boot.
Yesterday I re-installed FCP and that gave me back the codec for nanoFlash XDCAMHD 422 files (and probably a lot of other missing codecs).
I then opened up a matching sequence in Premiere CS5.5 and was able to import one of these files now - so your advice on the missing codec helped here.
But when I placed this file on the timeline - video only - no audio, it stuttered and dropped frames no matter what resolution used for playback,
Then, here is the most telling thing, I rendered the "entire workspace" (1 clip of video only - 20 secs in length) it took 2mins/52 seconds with all 8 cores maxing out to render it.
I then got the green line above the video in the timeline - AND STILL THE VIDEO PLAYED BACK STUTTERING AND DROPPING FRAMES EVEN THOUGH RENDERED!!
That seems to indicate I either have something wrong with the video card or it's drivers? And maybe this morning's boot up demonstrates that as well?
What do you folks think?
Thank you so much Todd for making the extra effort to help with my problem.
So anyone following this issue, it appears to not be a CS5.5 issue - but an issue with my individual machine - or graphics card or driver. Would be interested to know what graphics card and drivers you folks were using for this test. -
I have just downloaded pixel bender for CS5 and
I have just downloaded pixel bender for CS5 and know I get this message The image dimensions exceed the hardware capabilities of your GPU. What do I need to do to make it work
What are the pixel dimensions of the image?
You might try reducing the pixel dimensions of the image and see if that makes a difference.
Image>Image Size -
PC build for CS5 Production Premium
Hello everyone. Ron here from Toronto Canada.
I'm a serious hobbyist leaning more towards video and flash production, attempting to put together a PC for CS5 Production Premium.
I've gone through this forum recently (a few times, actually - great info - thanks guys) and have put together what I think I want, as I'm not a hardware techie.
I'm looking to see if I'm going on overkill, or if there are any finer details I may have missed in putting together these hardware components.
Ex: Motherboard fits in case; CPU Cooler doesn't block RAM slots; GPU good enough - SuperClocked worth the price; Overclocking issues; Good Blu-Ray burner; Hardware alternatives; etc...
Your thoughts and suggestions are most welcome.
PC-X2000F - LIAN-LI Black Aluminum ATX Super Full Tower Computer Case
CMPSU-1200AX - Corsair Professional Series Gold 1200W ATX Fully Modular 80PLUS Gold Power Supply
GA-X58A-UD9 - GIGABYTE LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 XL ATX Intel Motherboard
015-P3-1485-AR - EVGA 015-P3-1485-AR GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) SuperClocked+ 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
* Was going for the Quadro FX3800, but understand they're going EOL
F3-12800CL7T-12GBTDD - G.SKILL Trident+ Turbulence II 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model
BX80613I7980X - Intel Core i7 980X Extreme Edition Six-Core Socket LGA1366, 3.33Ghz, 6.4GT/s FSB, 12MB L3 Cache, 32nm (Retail Boxed)
NH-D14 - Noctua Six Heatpipe Dual Radiator CPU Cooler for Intel Socket LGA1366/1156/775 & AMD Socket AM2/AM2+/AM3
AS5-3.5G - Arctic Silver 5 (3.5g) High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound
WD2003FYYS - (2x) Western Digital RE4 2TB SATAII 7200RPM 64M Buffer - OEM
WD6000HLHX - Western Digital VelociRaptor 600GB SATA 6Gb/s 10000RPM 32MB OEM
LG WH10LS30K - LG 10X Blu-ray Burner - LightScribe Support - Bulk - OEM
GLC-00736 - Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - OEM
Thanks again.Thanks Harm. Phew!! What a relief.
My next step is to order my list through a local computer store rather than online, and have them build it for me for the cost of shipping and me trying to build it myself.
>> I wonder where you can find the F3 Trident 4 G sticks though. A great choice but hard to get I think. I have been looking at that memory as well to upgrade to 24 G.
I got the idea from: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2968126
Which led me to: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231381
This led me to another question. In the reviews section ( http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16820231359 ) there's mention of the price for the 6x4 sticks being a marketing trick, where its cheaper to buy 2x (3x4) sticks. Yet one reply to that, mentions the price difference is because the 6x4 sticks are all made to work together. I also read somewhere that its better to get the 6 pack because they're all manufactured on the same line. Any thoughts?
>> If anything critical, consider more disks and a separate hardware controller for the RE4's. Not absolutely necessary, but desirable.
I thought about this already from previous discussions. Thanks for mentioning it, however. Greatly appreciated. In my case, this will be a future consideration.
Thanks for the fast response, Harm.
And many thanks to the other contributors for your time and wealth of information.
Ron
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