Receiver Synchronous and BPM Scenario

I have a scenario and needs to design the same.
Procedure needs to Kick off in the Iseries from XI and then that will generate 3 views which will be view of two tables in Iseries.These views needs to be read by XI and each view will have an idoc generated.
Solution I thought:
1. receiver synchronous which will Kick off procedure and return OKAY code and in BPM, it will do the send step and do the following.
3 receiver synchronous for three querries and three send steps willl be in BPM and gradually map to the IDOC. Each view will have 1 IDOC respectively.
I am not sure if this will be good solution . Please suggest if you have better solution. Please ask me more question about the scenario if it is not clear.
Regards
Ria

Procedure needs to Kick off in the Iseries from XI and then that will generate 3 views which will be view of two tables in Iseries.These views needs to be read by XI and each view will have an idoc generated.
what needs to be done in Lseries to get generated the views for reading by XI
Is some stored procudure to be called for that..
Rajesh

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