Repairing Permissions & 10.5.2 Upgrade

Before I start the update to 10.5.2 I have the following questions about repairing permissions:
1) Why do you have to repair permissions before you do the update?
2) Exactly how do you repair permissions?
3) What am I looking for when I do this process?
4) Should I repair permissions after I do the 10.5.2 Upgrade?
I have a brand new MacPro (Early 2008) and I'm trying to avoid any mistakes.

1. To insure that everything is OK before hand.
2. In the Utilities folder is an application called Disk Utility.
Open it up, click on your HD on the left sidebar, and then click on "Repair Disk Persmissions.
3. Nothing really. Let it do its thing.
4. Yes. Anytime you install something you should run Disk Utility and Repair Permissions.
Joseph Kriz

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Hi All
Upgrading an iMac20 PPC (dome) to 10.5 . repaired permissions and all fine. after running software update, installing one at a time in the order of release date and running disk utility after each update.. I'm getting the following msgs.
*Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD”*
Warning: SUID file "usr/libexec/load_hdi" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiskManagement.framework/Versions/A/Resources /DiskManagementTool" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/Reso urces/Locum" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Install.framework/Versions/A/Resources/runner " has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Admin.framework/Versions/A/Resources/readconf ig" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Admin.framework/Versions/A/Resources/writecon fig" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "usr/libexec/authopen" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/Resources/OwnerGroupTool" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAg ent" has been modified and will not be repaired.
*Permissions repair complete*
Any ideas? this is the second time I try this upgrade and get the same thing?
TIA
Oscar.

I'm having the same problem but in addition to the permission issues, I have a number of applications that no longer work. Mainly, Photoshop CS3 and VMware Fusion.
The issue is that since the update to 10.5.1 - a number of applications are running as 'root'. Any programs that need root user access to their write caches are getting locked out.

Does repair permissions etc. need to be done after upgrade to 10.6?

My used Early 2009 Mini came with Leopard and I upgraded it to Snow Leopard. Haven't had the chance to use it yet. Need to update to the latest version of SL. Just wondered if I should do repair permissions etc. before using it. Or install all of the software I need and do the repair permissions etc. after that.
Thanks.
Silverado93

How to Install OS X Updates Successfully
A. Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions:
Boot from your current Tiger Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. Then select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger and later.) After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer. Now restart normally.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior (4.0 for Tiger) and/or TechTool Pro (4.5.2 for Tiger) to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.
B. Make a Bootable Backup Using Restore Option of Disk Utility:
Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
Select the destination volume from the left side list.
Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
Check the box labeled Erase destination.
Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
Destination means the external backup drive. Source means the internal startup drive.
C. Important: Please read before installing:
If you have a FireWire hard drive connected, disconnect it before installing the update unless you will boot from this drive and install the update on it. Reconnect it and turn it back on after installation is complete and you've restarted.
You may experience unexpected results if you have installed third-party system software modifications, or if you have modified the operating system through other means. (This does not apply to normal application software installation.)
The installation process should not be interrupted. If a power outage or other interruption occurs during installation, use the standalone installer (see below) from Apple Downloads to update. While the installation is in progress do not use the computer.
D. To upgrade:
Purchase the Snow Leopard Retail DVD.
Boot From The OS X Installer Disc:
Insert OS X Installer Disc into the optical drive.
Restart the computer.
Immediately after the chime press and hold down the "C" key.
Release the key when the spinning gear below the dark gray Apple logo appears.
Wait for installer to finish loading.
E. If updating:
Download and install update(s)
Use Software Update, or
Download standalone updater(s).

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Repairing permissions for “HD One”
Error: No valid packages (-9997)
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Further complicating things is that the Leopard boot drive is a 320gb drive that was partitioned to a 120gb main drive + second using Speedtools ATA Cap drive utility because this G4PM can't recognize larger size drives. So I'm reluctant to do an erase of the main drive and then reinstall of Leopard.
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I have Panther on another drive and was able to boot into it via the Leopard install disk Startup Drive utility. From there I've run Disk Utility and Techtool Deluxe which reports the Leopard drive is okay, but when I run Repair Permissions on that drive I get the following error:
Repairing permissions for “HD One”
Error: No valid packages (-9997)
Bad move trying to repair a Leopard disk with something from Panther or Tiger. They're not compatible. As for the permissions, the receipts structure is totally different that's why it can't do the job.
As for using the SpeedTools thing, I have no idea. Your best bet is to get another ext FWHD and install Leopard onto to it, use the Migration Assistant to transfer your stuff from the hosed volume, and see if that works. If so, then use Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper! to clone the FWHD installation to the hosed volume.

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*Problem with Disk Utility* - +repair permissions don't work anymore+
After upgrading to OS X 10.5.1 tried to correct permissions with Disk utility. But I'm not able to repair permissions, because I get this message every time "fault: The underlying task reported a fault at concluding." and permissions repair stops. Has anyone else had this problem and does anyone have any idea how to get this working again?

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I ran Disk Utility on my sluggish MBP and was informed that the disk permissions (and the disk?) need to be repaired.
I inherited this computer, and used CCC to migrate from my old computer with a clone. Now, it appears the Recovery HD is missing.
I did a bit of research, and it seems installing Mavericks on top of all these issues is not advised until I repair the permissions using the present OS, but I do not have access to a similar computer running Lion in order to build a Recovery HD on an external drive.
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Closer to the point: What do I do now?
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New Mac Mini and Repairing Permissions

I've been having trouble with my Mail program and thought I would repair permissions to see if that would help. I ran disk utility from my internal hard drive and ran repair permissions. Apparently it found several permissions to repair, so I thought I would run repair permissions again and the same list appeared. Running a third time and the same list appeared again.Do these permissions ever get repaired? What do I do from here? Should I repair permissions after booting up off of my original system disk? This Mini is only a couple of weeks old and I'm already having problems with Mail and repairing permissions.
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Thank you Tim but the computer is packed back waiting for TNT to take it back to Apple. I don't have time to play with permissions, the permissions are OK in the old computer.
This is what may have been your problem. The permissions on your old computer may not have matched the new computer. I think you gave up before the penny dropped.
They sell the computers very expensive and I think they would have to improve quality.
I am unsure how that can be one of your gripes as when the cube came out it was way overpriced in comparison to their other desktops. That did not stop your or I getting one then.
Your issue was a software problem not a hardware problem so no matter what kind of mac you had it would have needed troubleshooting.
The quality of the new mac mini far exceeds that of the cube. Try playing 1080P high definition media on your cube, or even 480P for that matter. Try outputting 5.1 surround sound from your cube without the addition of a firewire audio interface.
I know how frustrating it can be when something just does not seem to work. I have encountered this a few times in my work. However sometimes I just have leave it come back with fresh eyes and try other approaches and I succeed.
What you need to appreciate installing an upgrade should be planned for any eventuality. In business upgrades are scheduled to have the minimum impact on the workplace. That being said I have worked 48 hrs solid over a weekend getting systems up for a monday morning. They are not always straightforward.

To repair or not repair, permissions that is?!?

I'm planning to update to SL and have been reading discussions about a recommendation to repair permissions before and after the update. Does this sound correct? and if so how do I do this?
Thank you for your time.

xrayeyes1502 wrote:
I'm planning to update to SL and have been reading discussions about a recommendation to repair permissions before and after the update. Does this sound correct?
yes.
and if so how do I do this?
open Disk Utility, select your main hard drive and click "repair permissions". But MUCH more important is to make a full backup before upgrading. repairing permissions is extremely minor compared to having a backup.
Thank you for your time.
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Repairing permissions before and after updating software

What is the reason to repair permissions before and after updating software? This may sound like a stupid question to many of you, but I am new to computers and I am trying to learn how and why of some of the things of my PowerBook. I installed some updates without repairing permissions. Did I install some software updates the wrong way? Thank you.

This is a topic which will draw as many emphatic for and against responses as overnight shut down or not, defrag or not, optimise or not, and so on.
I agree with Neil. I believe that OS X has progressed sufficiently that repair permissions has become redundant and so I do not do it on any regular basis.
Some folk may refer you to an Apple Support Article 303602. That Article in its 4 May 2006 version, titled "Top 10 Tips to Keep Your Mac in Top Form" suggested Repair Permissions should be done "after upgrading or installing new software". The Article was however revised on 15 May 2006 to be titled "Top Tips to Keep Your Mac in Top Form" and the item on Repair Permissions [along with two other recommended maintenance tips] was removed. It is my view that the conclusion to be drawn here is that Apple no longer considers Repair Permissions to be a required maintenance procedure.
Many users have adopted a "Repair Permissions" mantra for a cure-all over several years. I dropped it sometime in 10.3.
But, to each his own.
HTH
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Disk Utility can't repair permissions

For the first time I neglected to repair permissions before security upgrade and now I find I can no longer repair permissions. Everything goes as normal until about 75% done and then it just freezes. I have tried running it from the install CD but it does the same. I used the disk repair and got this error message;
ERROR: The underlying task reported failure on exit (~9972)
1 Volume could not be repaired.
Computer otherwise OK. AHT reported all OK.
Is this the start of an HD failure or some querky software malfunction? Help needed!
G4 867 MDD Mac OS X (10.3.9) Extra 120Gb HD, 1.75Gb SDRAM LG 4163B Superdrive

If my HD has developed a bad sector then surely a clone will not work?
My best guess is that the cloning would fail when it tried to access the data that's referenced in the bad directory node. I've had similar problems when trying to copy files when there were directory problems. You may not have a bad sector per se, but certainly the directory record is damaged in such a way that Disk Utility can't reconstruct the record.
If I moved all my APPS folder to another HD and then did a Zero and format on this one could I then still use the APPS folder with a new install by repairing permissions?
You have to remember that apps store files in other locations - particularly in the /Library, /System/Library/ and /Users/username/Library directories. While you can copy the Applications directory to another drive, you're liable to miss supporting files the apps are going to look for. Since there's no real way to determine what the damaged directory is referencing, you'd be chancing something's going to get missed and leave you with apps that won't run. The only way I've ever been able to find what directory erorrs were pointing to was to copy files to another drive one chunk at a time until I found the offending directory and then narrow down the search by copying files individually. Given the nature of OS X to store files in directories that are otherwise hidden from the user, this can be a complicated and tedious process.
Since Disk Utility running from the install disk can't repair the damaged directoy record, I'd go to the Disk Warrior repair strategy next.
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Help needed - disk utility cant repair permissions

after upgrading to Leopard - when few days later I verified my permissions in disk utility and ask for repair received log;
<<
Verify permissions for “Macintosh HD”
Warning: SUID file "usr/libexec/load_hdi" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiskManagement.framework/Versions/A/Resources /DiskManagementTool" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/Reso urces/Locum" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Install.framework/Versions/A/Resources/runner " has been modified and will not be repaired.
Permissions differ on "private/var/log/secure.log", should be -rw------- , they are -rw-r----- .
Permissions differ on "Library/Preferences", should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx .
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Admin.framework/Versions/A/Resources/readconf ig" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Admin.framework/Versions/A/Resources/writecon fig" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "usr/libexec/authopen" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/Resources/OwnerGroupTool" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAg ent" has been modified and will not be repaired.
Permissions differ on "Library", should be drwxrwxr-t , they are drwxrwxrwt .
Permissions verification complete
<<
I'm not unix knowledgeable.
please advice how to solve it?

done - and now I have following info after running disk utility repair :
+Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD”+
+Stopped by user+
+Permissions repair complete+
+Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD”+
+Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAg ent" has been modified and will not be repaired.+
+User differs on "System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.5.0/Home/lib/jvm.cfg", should be 0, user is 95.+
+User differs on "System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.5.0/Libraries/classlist" , should be 0, user is 95.+
+Permissions repair complete+
Can you advice what should I do next to fix it.
thank you
Tomasz

Repair permissions in Disk Utility won't stop

OK, I've never done permissions repair on our MacBook Pro 15" (2 GB 1067 MHz DDR3, 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo). (My apologies to the fastidious cleaners among this group.) I've done multiple upgrades over the past 4 or so years that we've owned it, including the latest upgrade to Lion for iCloud purposes. Because of processing time issues with Safari, I (a) cleared its cache, (b) deleted certain files in Home/Library/Safari (form values and download.plist) and in Home/Library/Preferences (com.apple.Safari.plist) and (c) tried to repair permissions in Disk Utility. All of this was per the recommendations of another Apple discussion group. (I also purchased (but have not yet installed) additional RAM to accommodate Lion and to address general operating slowness.) I started repair permissions about 11 or 12 hours ago and it's still going! While our MBP has a boatload of files on it, I'm wondering whether this is normal? Should I stop it and try something else? Thanks.

Cancel out of the Repair Permisisons and reboot the computer and start Safari.
Download this free program called OnyX and run ALL the checks, cleaning and maintainance tasks and reboot at the end.
http://www.titanium.free.fr/
OnyX is much safer to use because it reminds you to reboot the computer to rebuild the cache files, which you likely didn't do, then went to Repair Permissions and files were missing and ikely the reason why it got stuck, but it could be something far worse and hopefully OnyX will reveal more details with the initial checks.
This is what I would do in your case.
Lion will run much better with more memory than 2GB, however I would seriously consider fixing your OS X and software issues first before upgrading the RAM.
While your inside the machine replacing RAM, you might as well replace the hard drive with a newer faster, 7,200 RPM drive too and rebuild the whole OS from the ground up.
Because your machine was upgraded one OS over another, you likely got a lot of cr*p built up and seriously need to consider doing a
backup of files on a external drive, better a whole drive clone
a format and "fresh install" of 10.5 on the new internal drive, use the same username and hard drive name as before
then upgrading to 10.6, make another clone here on another external drive
then upgrading to 10.7, followed by installing all your necessary programs fresh from orignal sources
and finally returning the contents of your user files folders (Music, Documents, Pictures, Movies etc) from backup right back into the same folders on the new configuration.
In that order as it's important for maintaining perfromance that the user files are returned last. Hard drives are faster up front than they are as they get filled up, since programs and OS doesn't move around much, installing them first as it's up front where the perfromance is best and your files, which do change often, are placed further down into free space thus the OS and programs remain fast for a longer period of time.
It is a LOT of work and you have a LOT to learn, but you got a older computer that you have neglected for some time and your trying to run a newer operating system. Good thing is your processor and video card are decent, so the computer has potential to live like a new machine. If your willing to apply labor or have a Mac geek do it for you. Else your looking at a buying a new machine prematurely.
If you can't c boot off the 10.5 grey disks, then your just going to have to start with 10.6 and buy iLife at the AppStore when you download Lion again with your AppleID (option click on Purchases)
Read through my exhaustive post here, it will educate you
https://discussions.apple.com/message/16276201#16276201

Can you run Tiger and OS 8.6 on the same computer? RE: Repair Permissions

Hello,
I don't fully understand how "Repair Permissions" work and when it is needed and therefore I would like to post this question for some clarification. Using "Repair Permissions" for troubleshooting is a controversial issue. I read this interesting opinion about Repairing Permissions and now I am concerned that it may not be safe for me to install my old OS 8.6 on my OSX installed computer due to a "permission" conflict between OS 8 and OS X.
Could someone confirm this with me please? Could this cause some file permission problems?
I would use OS 8.6 to run my older Adobe Illustrator 8 application and photoshop 6. And then I will boot onto Tiger for everything else. I would switch a few times per day back and forth.
Basically, is it safe to run Tiger on the same computer that has OS 8.6 installed on it? (I am not concerned about making 8.6 run in the Classic environment because I know that doesn't work - I am refering to having separate bootable installs)
[1] http://www.unsanity.org/archives/000410.php
PS I am aware of how to change my startup OS on this particular computer (b&w G3). I would have to have the two OSs on the same volume and launch X by pressing x -key during startup due to the fact that OS 8.6 doesn't have the Startup Disk feature introduced in OS 9. That was an earlier separate discussion that has since been solved.
PS
I could choose to instead use my OS 9.2 but I have reserved that OS for another computer unfortunately. However depending on the outcome of this post, I might have to reconsider.

This is a really difficult issue to resolve! Apple doesn't have much documentation that covers running OS 8 & OS X on the same drive. There are, however, a few things that it might helpful to know:
1. Repairing permissions with Disk Utility in OS X won't touch user-created files. It only repairs things that have a receipt file, which are created by installers. The unsanity reference explains this; you might want to review that part of the article again.
2. Disk Utility has a separate repair OS 9 permissions function (accessed in the menus), but AFAIK, this only repairs permissions on the OS 9 system folder "blessed" by the Classic system pref as the one to use for Classic. I doubt this would be useful for the OS 8.6 system.
3. Of greater concern than mis-set permissions is file system damage. Under no circumstances should you use any disk repair utility on a Tiger drive except those that "know" about Tiger's file structure. This rules out using Disk First Aid from either OS 8 or OS 9, or any OS 8 or 9 third party utilities. (See this Apple document for the details.) I don't know if this also applies to OS 8's 'rebuild desktop' function, but I would avoid it to be on the safe side.
4. If you do decide to reformat or partition your drive for dual booting (as you mentioned in your other thread), do so only with Tiger's Disk Utility & remember to check the 'install OS 9 drivers' option or you won't be able to boot into OS 8 or 9, even if you have a viable system folder for either on the drive. See this Apple document for more info.
5. In light of the above, it is well worth getting OS 9 to use with Tiger on your B&W, as long as any older apps you need to run are compatible with it. (There should be no need to use OS 8/9 with text files anyway, since OS X can handle all the old text formats.) In fact, unless you need to use some peripheral that has no OS X driver, you probably will do just fine by using Classic with the old apps, eliminating the need to reboot completely.
6. If you need to buy OS 9, one inexpensive source is OWC's Mac OS 9.1 - OEM CD. At $35, it is a cheap way to avoid the headaches of OS 8 with Tiger! Note that you can upgrade from this 9.1 version to 9.2.2 for free with Apple's updates available from the Mac OS 9: Available Updates web page.
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