Retaining original filenames in Save For Web droplet

Automation from LR to PS is going groovy, but,
The output files are all being renamed by the 'save for web' dialogue box to the filename saved inside the action that the droplet points to..
So file #1 is saved ok,
File #2 renamed as file #1 and replaces/overwrites original file #1..
I have added a sequence 4 digit number to the file name in the droplet creation dialogue box but the final file rename happens after this in the final process of 'Save for Web' export..
This is what I want to do.. Ideally..
LR Raw file edited to taste,
Export as watermarked TIF to PS
Action a high pass filter,
Export through Save for Web @ 1200px long - 75% quality
Close TIF without saving.
Es possible?

Hi JJ,
Nope, I didn't change any names.. or do you mean I automatically/inadvertantly change the name when recording the 'save for web' step?
In your image above, mine looks similar but the filename is that of the file I need to have open in need to record an action..
In my case, using your example, all my exported files would be renamed 'webnamed.jpg'
and overwrite each export one by one...
What is it I'm not getting??? !!
How can you record an action without an open file, that the 'action record process' records THAT filename and makes it sticky in the action..
Sorry to come across as really blonde here but I'm just not getting it..
Here's what mine says..

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> I have a feeling this might be to do with the settings trying to limit it to 32 characters
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filenames with more than 32 characters, but only the first 32 are significant.
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>(so they're unix compatible)
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>- but if I change the settings in the Save for web dialog it makes no difference.
I really don't know what that setting controls. I thought it was more like the
character set or encoding of the filenames. Let me know if you figure it out.
-X
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The employee acknowledged this bug THREE months ago (as of this post), yet all things considered, this doesn't seem like something that would take three months to fix!
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I don't understand this mentality. Please Adobe... Put CS7 down for a little while, and fix what needs to be fixed in CS6. People (myself included) have paid A LOT of money for your products, it's not unreasonable to expect them to work properly. Bugs happen, it's understandable, but it's not unrealistic to expect a fix for them when the software is as expensive as it is. Is there actually any plan to correct this issue?

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HTH
J.

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