Returnable packaging process-Vendor-Company-Customer

Dear SAP Gurus,
I have searched through the internet as well as on this forum but I was not able to find the information I am looking for.
I have the following issue concerning the Returnable packaging process in SAP:
I need to gather overall information concerning the returnable packaging. The info concerning returnable packaging in relation 'my company' - 'customer' is quite accessible, however what about the process from vendor's side?
The process is as follows:
My vendor provides me with some materials that come with returnable packaging (e.g.Pallet01) -> Assuming I am just a middleman, I sell the goods to my customer and also send them on Pallet01 (one day my customer must return the pallet to me and I must return it to the vendor).
- What are the settings I must set in customizing and in material master?
- How would the process look like in the system?
- In what report I can see how many Pallets I owe to the vendor and how many Pallets each customer should return to me (is there one report that would show everything or do I have to use separate reports)?
- How do I proceed if the vendor decides to invoice me for the pallets or I decide to invoice my customer (I would like to know the best practices)?
If there is an existing topic here (I was no able to find one) or any materials on the net I would be also grateful for the links.
Thank you in advance!

Dear kevinthai ,
ex- create a po for 100 material send to vender then vendor send 100 materials to u then u migo finally stock is in ur plant ,
then u sold that material to customer that is SD come to the picture if customer send faulty material to you then u receive that material to send faulty store , that material u will check ur system it will track all movement , then u will get to know which vendor u procured the material then go to migo return to vendor put that po no which po u procured the materials ,enter it will display all material what ever material u procured at that time then select the material & quantity and save ,it will goes to vendor
before u should have customize MM-SD-FI integration
hope it will help you
Regards
shiv

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CAN ANY ONE LET ME KNOW RETURN PACKING PROCESS I.E RETURN PACKAGING PICKUP & ISSUE.
THE MOVEMENT TYPES FOR RETURN PACKAGING STOCK 2B POSTED .

Hi sidi ,
well , thanks for the response & link ,
ERROR " NOT ALL PACKAGING MATERIALS ARE AVAILABLE .
posted return PACKAGING MATERIAL (LEIH ) stock with movement types 561 v & 562 v ,AND THE STOCK IS AVAILABLE IN MMBE AGANIST CUSTOMER . but STILL THE SYSTEM PROPOSES a msg in delivery " ERROR " NOT ALL PACKAGING MATERIALS ARE AVAILABLE .
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Dear Experts,
I have searched through the internet as well as on this forum but I was not able to find the information I am looking for.
I have the following issue concerning the Returnable packaging process in SAP:
I need to gather overall information concerning the returnable packaging.
The process is as follows:
My vendor provides me with some materials that come with returnable packaging (e.g.Pallet01) -> Assuming I am just a middleman, I sell the goods to my customer and also send them on the same Pallet01 (one day my customer must return the pallet to me and I must return it to the vendor).
- What are the settings I must set in customizing and in material master?
- How would the process look like in the system (for example are there specific settings I must make to be able to see the packaging per customer in MB58 (I have set item category group LEIH in material master - is this the only setting to assure this, plus I am not sure if the field where I should put LEIH is General item category group or Item category group - both on Sales: sales org.2 tab in material master; Plus is there any way I can control what settings does item category group have? When I go to SPRO Sales and Distribution->Sales->Sales Document->Sales Document Item->Define Item Category Groups - there is no option to click inside the certain group))?
- In what report I can see how many Pallets I owe to the vendor and how many Pallets each customer should return to me (is there one report that would show everything or do I have to use separate reports)?
- How do I proceed if the vendor decides to invoice me for the pallets or I decide to invoice my customer (I would like to know the best practices)?
I tried to enter packaging from vendor to special stock type M (with move 501 M added to the goods receipt for PO), than it's working to see it in the stock report assigned to that particular vendor. But what if (and this is the case) I am selling the goods on the same packaging to my customer? Cause I am not able to add the pallets from special stock M to the outbound deliver.
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Dear Vikram Shukla,
In fact, my question is more related to how to link the returnable packaging with the vendor - raw materials combination (PIR), which for my understanding is more related to sourcing part.
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Many thanks in advance and best regards-
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Hi experts,
I have Returnable packaging process, ex: Gas
I create 2 material Gas (Item category group: Norm) and Gas bottle (LEIH) and my process is done with normal customer.
but with Customer consignment, when I Fill-up, VA01 (Order type: KB) I cant save it.
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That's different...
If you want to time the duration of a process, you ahve to add a frame in the sequence, before reading the ticks. leave the iniatial tick count inside.
See the attachment
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hi,
1.Returnable packging issue has a special stock indicator which will show in the Inventor stock with whom the returnable packging material lies in MMBE.
Follow the link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/dd/560051545a11d1a7020000e829fd11/content.htm
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Returnable packaging scenario

returnable packaging scenario

Hi,
Returnable packaging consists of materials that are stored at the customer location but which remain the property of your company. The customer is only required to pay you for the returnable packaging if he does not return it to you by a specified time. Using this function you can, for example, process euro-pallets. You can also use it to resell returnable packaging to a third party. Since stocks of returnable packaging form part of your valuated stock even when they are at the customer site, you must manage them in your system.
However, stocks of returnable packaging must be
Managed separately from the rest of your stock so that you know exactly what stock is stored at the customer location
Managed separately for each customer
Inventory management treats returnable packaging as special stock in your inventory and is assigned to specific customers. This enables you to keep track of returnable packaging stock by customer.
Prerequisites
Settings in the Material Master Record
A prerequisite for returnable packaging processing is that the value LEIH (returnable packaging) is entered in the material master record on the second sales screen in the Item category group field. This entry in combination with the document type automatically determines the appropriate item category for each transaction involving the material.
Settings for the Special Stock Partner
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If you want to manage returnable packaging for a carrier, for whom a vendor record already exists, you must also create a customer master record for the carrier. You are then able to assign returnable packaging stock to the carrier.
Process Flow
There are three main transactions for processing returnable packaging, all of which support separate inventory management:
Creating Returnable Packaging Shipments
Creating Returnable Packaging Pick-Up
Creating Returnable Packaging Issue
Returnable Packaging Shipments
When you sell goods to a customer, you may send the goods in returnable packaging. During sales order processing, you simply enter the returnable packaging as an item in your order. You can process returnable packaging either as main items or as sub-items. For example, if you sell drinks in bottles and want the empty bottles to be returned, you can enter the bottles as sub-items for the drinks in the sales order. The item category group LEIH must be assigned to the bottles in the material master record so that they are processed as returnable packaging. During processing, the system recognizes that it is dealing with returnable packaging because the item category group LEIH is assigned to the material. The system then determines another item category in the sales order to allow the material to be processed as returnable packaging. As a result of entering returnable packaging in a sales order, the system carries out the following actions:
If special stock does not yet exist in your inventory for the customer (or special stock partner), the system creates it when goods issue is posted
The relevant quantity is removed from regular inventory in your plant and is added to the special stock for the customer. The total valuated stock for the plant remains the same.
The transaction is not relevant for pricing since the consignment stock remains the property of your company.
Returnable Packaging Pick-Up
If the customer returns the returnable packaging to you, you record the transaction in the system by creating a returnable packaging pick-up order (order type LA). As a result, the system carries out the following actions:
When goods issue is posted, the relevant quantity is deducted from the customers special stock and is added back into your regular stock at the plant where the goods are returned. Your total valuated stock remains the same since the returned stock was regarded as part of your own inventory even while it was at the customers premises.
This transaction is not relevant for billing.
Returnable Packaging Issue
In the following situations, you can create a returnable packaging issue order (order type LN):
The customer decides to keep the returnable packaging
The customer damages the returnable packaging and you decide to charge the customer
The customer sells the returnable packaging to a third party
As a result of processing a returnable packaging issue, the system carries out the following actions:
When goods issue is posted, the relevant quantity is deducted from both the customers special stock and your own total valuated stock.
The transaction is relevant for billing since the goods have become the property of the customer.
Sales Order Types
The following table provides an overview of the order types used in the standard system for processing returnable packaging:
Transaction
Sales order type
Returnable packaging pick-up
LA
Returnable packaging issue
LN
When you ship returnable packaging to the customer, you do not need to use a special order type. The transaction is a normal business transaction and you can use either a standard sales order or, if appropriate, a free of charge delivery.
Pricing and Availability Check
Whether pricing is carried out for the individual transactions depends on the item category. The schedule line category controls the availability check and the transfer of requirements in each of the transactions. The schedule line category itself is determined by the item category and the MRP type of the material. The order types LN and LA check against returnable packaging for the relevant customer. Requirement records for returnable packaging stock are stored as individual requirements, independently of the setting in the material master record.
source : Library
regards
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how Returnable packaging from customers is handled in sd module... in sales order, delivery.... etc.
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regards
sachin

Hi..
When you sell goods to a customer, you may send the goods in returnable packaging. During sales order processing, you simply enter the returnable packaging as an item in your order. You can process returnable packaging either as main items or as sub-items. For example, if you sell drinks in bottles and want the empty bottles to be returned, you can enter the bottles as sub-items for the drinks in the sales order. The item category group LEIH must be assigned to the bottles in the material master record so that they are processed as returnable packaging. During processing, the system recognizes that it is dealing with returnable packaging because the item category group LEIH is assigned to the material. The system then determines another item category in the sales order to allow the material to be processed as returnable packaging. As a result of entering returnable packaging in a sales order, the system carries out the following actions.
If special stock does not yet exist in your inventory for the customer (or special stock partner), the system creates it when goods issue is posted
The relevant quantity is removed from regular inventory in your plant and is added to the special stock for the customer. The total valuated stock for the plant remains the same.
The transaction is not relevant for pricing since the consignment stock remains the property of your company.
Returnable Packaging Pick-Up
If the customer returns the returnable packaging to you, you record the transaction in the system by creating a returnable packaging pick-up order (order type LA). As a result, the system carries out the following actions:
When goods issue is posted, the relevant quantity is deducted from the customeru2019s special stock and is added back into your regular stock at the plant where the goods are returned. Your total valuated stock remains the same since the returned stock was regarded as part of your own inventory even while it was at the customeru2019s premises.
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Returnable Packaging Issue
In the following situations, you can create a returnable packaging issue order (order type LN):
The customer decides to keep the returnable packaging
The customer damages the returnable packaging and you decide to charge the customer
The customer sells the returnable packaging to a third party
As a result of processing a returnable packaging issue, the system carries out the following actions:
When goods issue is posted, the relevant quantity is deducted from both the customeru2019s special stock and your own total valuated stock.
The transaction is relevant for billing since the goods have become the property of the customer.
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The following table provides an overview of the order types used in the standard system for processing returnable packaging:
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Sales order type
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When you ship returnable packaging to the customer, you do not need to use a special order type. The transaction is a normal business transaction and you can use either a standard sales order or, if appropriate, a free of charge delivery.
Pricing and Availability Check
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Returnable packaging (Special Stock V)
 Returnable packaging material is used as it is not always possible for a company to include the cost of packaging material in the cost of sale, as some packaging material could be expensive enough that the company cannot afford the customer to keep or destroy it.
Thus returnable packaging is used in the process where by the business sells items to the customer packed in shipping units such as boxes and crates. The customer is expected to return the packaging items i.e. boxes and crates in a certain period of time, if not, the business may bill the customer.
 Returnable packaging is considered as SPECIAL STOCK and is indicated by letter V , this packaging is kept at the customers location but will remain the property of your company. The special stock can be seen using the stock overview screen MMBE.
 There is no special order type for returnable packaging like in the case of consignment. The packaging material master record should use the material type VERP and the item category group LEIH (MRP2 - MMR). The item category group LEIH is the sap standard for returnable packaging.
 There are three main transactions for processing returnable packaging, all of which support separate inventory management:
 Creating Returnable Packaging Shipments
 Creating Returnable Packaging Pick-Up
 Creating Returnable Packaging Issue (should the customer not return the packaging material)
Returnable Packaging Shipments
When you sell goods to a customer, you may send the goods in returnable packaging. During sales order processing, you simply enter the returnable packaging as an item in your order. You can process returnable packaging either as main items or as sub-items. For example, if you sell drinks in bottles and want the empty bottles to be returned, you can enter the bottles as sub-items for the drinks in the sales order. The item category group LEIH must be assigned to the bottles in the material master record (packaging material) so that they are processed as returnable packaging. During processing, the system recognizes that it is dealing with returnable packaging because the item category group LEIH is assigned to the material. The system then determines another item category in the sales order to allow the material to be processed as returnable packaging. As a result of entering returnable packaging in a sales order, the system carries out the following actions:
 If special stock does not yet exist in your inventory for the customer (or special stock partner), the system creates it when goods issue is posted
 The relevant quantity is removed from regular inventory in your plant and is added to the special stock for the customer. The total valuated stock for the plant remains the same.
 The transaction is not relevant for pricing since the consignment stock remains the property of your company.
Returnable Packaging Pick-Up
If the customer returns the returnable packaging to you, you record the transaction in the system by creating a returnable packaging pick-up order (order type LA). As a result, the system carries out the following actions:
 When goods issue is posted, the relevant quantity is deducted from the customers special stock and is added back into your regular stock at the plant where the goods are returned. Your total valuated stock remains the same since the returned stock was regarded as part of your own inventory even while it was at the customers premises.
 This transaction is not relevant for billing.
Returnable Packaging Issue
In the following situations, you can create a returnable packaging issue order (order type LN):
 The customer decides to keep the returnable packaging
 The customer damages the returnable packaging and you decide to charge the customer
 The customer sells the returnable packaging to a third party
As a result of processing a returnable packaging issue, the system carries out the following actions:
 When goods issue is posted, the relevant quantity is deducted from both the customers special stock and your own total valuated stock.
 The transaction is relevant for billing since the goods have become the property of the customer.
Sales Order Types
The following table provides an overview of the order types used in the standard system for processing returnable packaging:
Transaction Sales order type
Returnable packaging pick-up LA
Returnable packaging issue LN
When you ship returnable packaging to the customer, you do not need to use a special order type. The transaction is a normal business transaction and you can use either a standard sales order or, if appropriate, a free of charge delivery.
Reward if helps
Regards
Sai

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Hi All,
We have an issue in returns PO process -Third party
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When the user raises Return purchase order , it is taking the price from Inforecord for current validity date.
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Hi ,
Thank you for the answer . Actually the user wants to capture the same price from the initial PO (forward cycle) into the returns PO(return cylce) .
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Returnable packaging is maintained only on Qty based.
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I have this scenario:
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These drums have serial numbers. Since some maintenance needs to be done on these drums from time to time, therefore, equipment's need to be created for the drums. The equipment number and serial number are the same and the serial number profile is setup in such a way that the equipment is created automatically when the serial number is created
When the drums are in stock, the status is ESTO
Now, in the normal order to cash process, this is what happens:
1) Sales order - order is created for a material
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Since consignment stock is still owned by the company until an consignment issue is done, I am wondering whether SAP is behaving correctly by changing the status of the serial umber to ECUS after the consignment fill up.
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Try the following
Go to OMWB transaction and simulate the posting using your plant, material and movement type
The simulation will show the standard postings based upon goods movement
E.G. 601 GBB VAX valuation class, account
Identify your accounts assigned to both sides of the posting and then you should be able to re-assign the g/l accounts to the appropriate modifier string within OBYC
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Steve

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Dear all,
I have a scenario where in i am recieving co2 gas from my vendor against a PO.
He is supplying it with cylinders i want to keep track of the cylinders and afetr using the gas want to return the cylinder to vendor.
Now the doubt arises, under which material type should I create this cylinder.
Doubt 1
I thougt of creating under the material type : LEIH, but this material type also contains the purchasing, accounting, sales view and same time in the config of the material type LEIH, value updating is not ticked, which is making me confuse.
Doubt 2
What I felt is, LEIH should be used for the our owns company returnable packaging material , which will go to the customer , but again for this also, these material should be valuated, since they belongs to our own stock , so why in standard SAP, value updation is not there.
Doubt 3
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Regards
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You can copy LEIH and create your own Materia Type say ZLEI. For this material type you can have only General Plant / Storage Data1 view enabled.
Remember, there are 2 materials here:
1. Gas
2. Returnable packaging (cylinder)
You can receive gas on unit basis if you dont want exact tracking (ie in KG). Use any procurement material type.
When you create the PO only mainitan Gas as the material.
When you do the goods receipt against this PO, Click on RTP button, this will create a new line item, automatically and will suggest movement type 501+M. Here enter the no. of cylinders.
You will be able to track the movement of cylinders.

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Hello,
My sloc is HU- Warehouse managed. I am creating a scenario of return purchase order to vendor using 161 Movement type. I have created a PO with 161 movement type. But whenever I am using MIGO with reference to return PO, OBD is created with customer. But I want OBD to be created for vendor because we are returning the delivery to vendor and not customer. I have done all the setting in vendor master of return delivery to vendor in purchasing view. Please provide me step by step process of configuration and business process of written PO to vendor via shipping.
Thanks
Milind

Hi,
Pre requisites Vendor return Via return PO and delivery.
1. You must create a customer master record for the vendor and assign the same in vendor master u2013Control view
2. In vendor master u2013purchasing view flag the Returns Vendor check box.
3. Maintain shipping point determination (OVL2)
Refer below link for config
[http://help.sap.com/bp_blv1600/BL_US/Documentation/Scenarios/V3I_BPP_EN_US.doc]
Regards,
Vikas

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