RMAN logical backup containing unused blocks

Dear Experts
When i taking logical backup of datafile from RMAN utility i notify that it will also backed up all unused blocks from datafile, so what i need to do, how to avoid that unused block from being backed up while taking logical backup of datafiles.
System details as follows
HP Itanium server
OS - Redhet Linux 5
DB - Oracle10g
Suggest me urgent.

Here i am gonna show you the backup statistics for only those problematic datafiles
DFNAME                                    DATAFILE_BLCKS     BLOCKS          DIFF
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index1.dbf     1695744     9818          1685926
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index2.dbf     1716224          8527          1707697
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index3.dbf     1622016          9727          1612289
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index4.dbf     1622016          9808          1612208
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index1.dbf     1695744          24823          1670921
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index2.dbf     1716224          19891          1696333
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index3.dbf     1622016          20591          1601425
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index4.dbf     1622016          17026          1604990
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index1.dbf     1695744          21239          1674505
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index2.dbf     1716224          17843          1698381
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index3.dbf     1622016          19820          1602196
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index4.dbf     1622016          14429          1607587
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index1.dbf     1695744          33885          1661859
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index2.dbf     1716224          41480          1674744
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index3.dbf     1622016          32338          1589678
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index4.dbf     1622016          26288          1595728
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index1.dbf     1695744          10504          1685240
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index2.dbf     1716224          18169          1698055
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index3.dbf     1622016          16195          1605821
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index4.dbf     1622016          11974          1610042
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index1.dbf     1695744          16938          1678806
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index2.dbf     1716224          25688          1690536
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index3.dbf     1622016          30653          1591363
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index4.dbf     1622016          20611          1601405
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index1.dbf     1695744          965385          730359
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index2.dbf     1716224          1010354          705870
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index4.dbf     1622016          1004034          617982
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index1.dbf     1695744          1695397          347
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index2.dbf     1716224          1713435          2789
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index3.dbf     1622016          1621255          761
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index4.dbf     1622016          1620287          1729
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index1.dbf     1695744          1695397          347
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index5.dbf     1171456          1170831          625
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index1.dbf     1695744          1695397          347
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index2.dbf     1716224          1713470          2754
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index3.dbf     1622016          1621261          755
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index4.dbf     1622016          1620364          1652
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index5.dbf     1171456          48547          1122909
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index1.dbf     1695744          47875          1647869
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index2.dbf     1716224          19725          1696499
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index3.dbf     1622016          26205          1595811
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index4.dbf     1622016          56040          1565976
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index5.dbf     1171456          31859          1139597
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index1.dbf     1695744          29509          1666235
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index2.dbf     1716224          20767          1695457
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index3.dbf     1622016          13210          1608806
/san_index/oradata/orcl/rajemitra_index4.dbf     1622016          31411          1590605

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