Roaming network without effect

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I need some help. I have 2 airport extremes (A1143, one of them is 1 gen and the other is 2 gen) and have made a roaming network in my 120 m^2 appartment, but i dont really feel a difference !
in the utility on my imac i have same ssid name, same password, same protection and same channel settings (set as automatic as apple recommend)
One of them is DHCP distributor and the other is in bridge mode, I know that.
They are separated form each other at 7-8 meters. I have tried to turn my network down and turn it on again, no really effect.
I can however see that my wireless devices are connecting to the router with bridge mode when that is nearest and same with the other router.
Still its not ok. What is the problem ?
The 2 routers are not placed near metallic surfaces or anything.
I suspect that maybe my wireless phone are disturbing the network. The situation is that my wireless phone is situated in the same room as my router with bridge mode but there is only interference when the phone is calling and ringning ? or also when its in stand-by and not ringing ??
Thanks in advance

I must be the only guy in the world to have a set up like this. The Ethernet in our building, of course carries the internet signal all over the building to not only other Airport Extremes but to computers (mostly PC's) that are hardwire connected to the internet and to our local ethernet network via that ethernet cable.
When I ran the cat five cable from the Quest modem to the WAN port on the first Airport Extreme and then ran the Ethernet cable that supplies the whole building via various routers "patch panels" and "switcher" etc. out of that same Airport Extreme LAN port it didn't work. There was no Internet signal to the hardwire ethernet network throughout the building.
Before that supply cable (supplying the whole building and AE's with the internet) was hooked directly up to the Quest modem and now that it's back in place I (on my lone MAC in the building) have internet back again via the hardwired ethernet.
Why could I not use the AE LAN port to supply hard wired ethernet to the rest of the building? Why must that wire, apparently, be connected directly to the Quest modem? That same modem has four "out" ports. One supplies the whole building with said ethernet (which I temporarily disconnected to hook into the AE LAN port, hoping that the Internet signal would go from Quest modem to AE#1 WAN port, THROUGH that AE#1 and out to the rest of the building via the AE#1 LAN port, but that doesn't seem to work)
What am I missing?
I've got internet to the whole building: hardwired via the ethernet and wireless if one is willing to start up at each new location with a restart as described above, but roaming. Nope.

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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4145
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Questions:
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2. How can I tell which of the Airports the attached client device is using?
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4259
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1. How does the client device know which Airport to connect to?
The Mac computer will automatically connect to the wireless access point with the strongest signal...which is probably the closest AirPort. An iPhone or iPad may not do this and will tend to stay connected to one AirPort.
2. How can I tell which of the Airports the attached client device is using?
On a Mac, open Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility. Click on one of AirPorts. In the area to the right, locate the AirPort ID and jot that down. Then do the same for your other AirPort.
Move your Mac near one of the AirPorts and log on to the wireless. Hold down the option key on the Mac while you click the fan shaped AirPort icon at the top of the screen. Look for the BSSID. That is the AirPort ID of the device to which you are connected.
If you are close to the "remote" AirPort, and you see the AIrPort ID of the "main" router when you are testing, then you know that the network is not configured correctly.
Can I use this second Airport Express to extend the wireless network via "Extended Wireless Network" while the other two are in "Roaming Netowrk" configuration? Without bogging down??
There will be a modest 10-15% bandwidth loss with the "extend" setup, assuming that the Express is located where it can receive a strong wireless signal from the AirPort to which it is associated. You can avoid the bandwidth loss if the Express is also connected via Ethernet as part of the roaming configuration.

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So my question is: In my roaming network, can I have my Extreme run in 2.4Ghz (to allow iPhone wifi connection) and my Express in 5Ghz?
Yes
Thanks. Good to know!
Update Frequency specifies how often the Express will check to see if any updates are available...which would have nothing to do with losing the Wi-Fi signal or other problem.
Thx. I feel like an idiot!
Btw, two other questions, if I may:
1. If there is no wifi signal, why would the Express light still be green?
2. When there is interference, why would the Express need to be rebooted? Why wouldn't it simply regain it's connection once the interference subsided? The reason I as is that I have exprerienced interference with the Extreme before and there is no wifi signal. After a minute or two, it would reestablish internet connectivity on its own (i.e., without me unplugging and re-plugging it).

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At this point we have fairly smooth network performance, everything connects immediately (iOS devices, Android devices, utility boxes, computers, etc) and 0% apparent packet loss.
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Any ideas?

Thank you for the reply. The Netgear switch I'm using is a GS724T -- it has management features which I'm working through, but all the ports are set to auto-negotiate and the port the Airport Express is on is lit for 100baseT. I didn't see any way to set the MTU in the Airport Utility menus/buttons.
When I join the Airport Express to the network, it sets up the roaming network as intended. But then performance all across the switch goes downhill -- even when pinging from a PC attached to one of the switch ports to the Comcast router I get 90% packet loss or worse, so that nothing seems to get out or in until I disconnect the Airport Express.. It's that dramatic a difference. It doesn't make sense to me that a wireles roaming network across the two Airport boxes should kill performance through the router...

Roaming WiFi without AirPort Extreme at core?

OK, I'll try to explain my situation in detail...here we go.
Moved into a new house that is wired for Ethernet and signed up for Comcast's new X1 Platform. I have all the comcast equipment in a media closet in the basement and originally wired the modem via Ethernet to the main floor where my prior generation AirPort Extreme sits. I didn't realize the new X1 box is not just a modem as I was used to...it was a modem and a built in WiFi router. So I was getting blinking amber on my AirPort until I put it into Bridge mode and now it works fine. I researched putting the Comcast box into Bridge mode but with X1 they've locked them down. It requires a call to support...and it sounds like a lot of headaches (plus I wanted my AirPort on the main floor, not the basement). So for now I've left it and basically ignore the WiFi signal coming from the basement and just use the AirPort extreme in Bridge Mode. Works great!
Fast forward to today and I want to strengthen my signal to the upstairs. I took advanage of a Black Friday deal and have a new current gen AirPort extreme here in the box. I want to create a roaming WiFi network as outlined here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4145
My question, however, is that the Knowledge base very clearly shows a main AirPort base station controlling the roaming network...this image:
http://km.support.apple.com/library/APPLE/APPLECARE_ALLGEOS/HT4145/HT4145-3.png
Is that a requirement, or if I have two Extremes both in Bridge mode with the same SSIDs, Security, etc will the roaming effect work? Or will my devices try to hold onto the old access point for as long as possible and not jump to the new one? Just to be clear, the setup would be:
X1 Modem/Router Combo --------AirPort Extreme (current gen) in Bridge Mode
|--------Airport Extreme (prior gen) in Bridge Mode
Sorry for the convoluted question. I tried this once before with an original AirPort Extreme (UFO) and the devices would not roam...they'd stay on the original access point and I'd need to manually switch. I'd love to get roaming working! Thanks all.

My question, however, is that the Knowledge base very clearly shows a main AirPort base station controlling the roaming network...this image:
http://km.support.apple.com/library/APPLE/APPLECARE_ALLGEOS/HT4145/HT4145-3.png
Well, Apple assumes that you will only be using Apple AirPort wireless routers in their support docs.
Is that a requirement, or if I have two Extremes both in Bridge mode with the same SSIDs, Security, etc will the roaming effect work?
Roaming will work fine if both AirPorts are set up the same as you indicate.
Or will my devices try to hold onto the old access point for as long as possible and not jump to the new one?
The real question here might be what devices you are asking about. Mac computers are very good about scanning to find the best access point and automatically switching to pick it up.....but a lot of PCs are not very good about this. iOS devices like the iPhone and iPad are not very good about this either.
If I walk my iPhone from one access point to another, it will hold onto the original access point...even if it is very close to an access point with a stronger signal..Nature of the beast with iOS, I am afraid.
Sometimes, the iPhone will switch, but usually I have to switch off the Wi-Fi when I move the iPhone close to another access point, and then turn it back on so that it will then pick up the signal from the closer access point.

Roaming Network

Following suggestions from a previous topic ( Thomas Way, "Verizon, Westell & AEBS & Express", 02:09pm Aug 5, 2005 CDT) I set up a roaming network in my home (and adjoining office) but have run into an odd conundrum.
There are three buildings in my configuration. The main house has an office where a Westell 327 wireless modem/router is connected to Verizon DSL. I set up an Airport Extreme Base Station (AEBS) in an adjoining room as a wired access point. I set up an Airport Express (AEX) in an office/shed about twenty feet from both the Westell and the AEBS. There is also a garage (the third building) that sits back aways, between the first two buildings, but it is not directly in the path of the AEBS and the AEX.
From my main office I can see and configure both the AEBS and the AEX via the Admin utility. I set the AEX to "join" the Westell network. But the laptop in the office/shed can't see the AEX or any part of the network. If I move the laptop to the garage between the two buildings, it connects to the network, but apparently only to the Westell. If the AEBS and/or AEX are shut down, the laptop remains connected. If I walk it slowly out the shed, it loses signal.
The AEBS and the Westell share the same SSID. There is no security at the moment (we live in a rural area with few neighbors). The AEBS and AEX are set to get IP via DHCP. The AEBS is on channel 11 and the Westell on channel 6.
Logically, one might say the distance of the shed and the walls are the problem. But before we got DSL we had an ISP via microwave towers and I used the AEBS as a wireless router and that laptop worked perfectly with the AEX in the shed. Also, the computer in the main office can see the AEX in the shed even if the AEBS in between is turned off.
One interesting note is that the AEX shows up on my main computer in the office, using the Admin Utility, as 192.168.1.43. But when I first connect to it, it briefly appears as a completely different IP in the format 254.xxx.xxx.xxx. The IP of my Westell is in the format 71.xxx.xxx.xxx.
Where is that 254.xxx IP on the AEX coming from?
Thanks,
TW

I finally gave up on the "roaming network" and created a second wireless network. For anyone else wanting to know how, here ya go:
The Westell 327 network is setup normally. I set the modem/router combo to channel 6. Any wireless station within range can connect to it by selecting the Westell's SSID name in the Airport menu item.
The Airport Extreme Base Station (AEBS) is wired to the Westell via Ethernet cable. The cable goes from the Westell's router port (use any one of the four on the back) and goes into the WAN port on the AEBS. My AEBS network is named Sunrise and is set to use DHCP. Under Network, it's set to distribute IP, sharing a single IP address. The channel is set to 11 (different from the Westell's).
Before I could change the WDS settings on the AEBS, I had to reset the AEX and choose Create a Home Network, and choose the "Sunrise" network I created earlier. The AEX channel is also set to 11. Under the Internet tab, select Connect via WDS and (if not automatic) enter the MAC address of the AEBS. Also configure using DHCP. Under Internet tab, Distribute IP is off. Under WDS tab, share as remote station and allow wireless clients to connect. Many of these setting were automatic after I entered on or two of first ones (don't remember--at one point, it just happened).
In order to connect to the AEX, I select my Sunrise network from the Airport menu item. On some of my wireless computers, both the Westell SSID and the Sunrise network appear, and I can select either one easily, without any hiccups.
The laptop that's off in the shed, where the AEX is located, now gets a full signal.
I suppose the roaming network idea might be a better solution but I could never get it to work with my Westell. Probably one preference I needed to change, but never discovered.
This setup works great so far, and does what I need.
One last hint: after hard resetting my AEX several times, it still refused to show up in the Admin utility or AEX assistant. I connected an Ethernet cable from the Westell to the AEX, and reconfigured it that way.
TW

Time Capsule on a Roaming Network

Hello everyone,
Quick and hopefully simple questions.
I just bought a 2TB time capsule. Is there any good reason to setup partition(s)? My household has 1 iMac and 3 Macbooks. Would it be good to have a separate partition for each machine? I am also open to having some network attached storage on the time capsule but don't find it absolutely nessasary.
Lastly I plan on setting up a roaming network using my airport extreme(connected to the cable modem) and then run cat 6 to the time capsule and 2 other airport express units to get great wifi coverage throughout my house. Anyone have any tips or advice on this setup? I have checked the apple support site and understand the confing involved in setting up the roaming network, just wanted to poll the forums for any helpful advice.
Thanks for your time!!

Quick and hopefully simple questions.
I just bought a 2TB time capsule. Is there any good reason to setup partition(s)? My household has 1 iMac and 3 Macbooks. Would it be good to have a separate partition for each machine? I am also open to having some network attached storage on the time capsule but don't find it absolutely nessasary.
Answers are simple.. There is no way to partition a TC. Not without voiding warranty and removing the drive and doing it on a computer .. then returning the drive to the TC. So don't do it.
You do not need to have separate partitions for each machine.. if you are going to use Time Machine as most people do, each computer will create its own sparsebundle which is kind of virtual disk partition. Each computer will use only its own sparsebundle and everything will be kept isolated from each other.
I am not sure what you mean by using NAS .. do you mean a separate NAS plugged in or a USB drive or using some of the TC internal disk space for file sharing?? The later is not a great idea. TM and data do not generally get on too well.. And the TC is a backup target for TM.. it has no way to back itself up, nor can TM backup a network drive. So any files on the TC are not backed up.
See pondini .. our TM guru master for all things TM.
Basic info. http://pondini.org/TM/FAQ.html
See particularly Q3 here for sharing TM and data.
http://pondini.org/TM/Time_Capsule.html
Lastly I plan on setting up a roaming network using my airport extreme(connected to the cable modem) and then run cat 6 to the time capsule and 2 other airport express units to get great wifi coverage throughout my house. Anyone have any tips or advice on this setup? I have checked the apple support site and understand the confing involved in setting up the roaming network, just wanted to poll the forums for any helpful advice.
Roaming is a good setup. Not a lot that goes wrong.
BUT.. IMHO.. and it is that..
Setup the whole wireless network using simple names.. no spaces pure alphanumeric.
Since every unit gets the same SSID.. I do recommend a lot more manual control.. I simply don't trust the automagical system to work.
You have only 3 non-overlapping channels at 2.4ghz.. 11, 6, 1 and you need to setup each unit on one of those channels.
There are more channels at 5ghz and the range is poor so they tend to interfere less.. but AC wireless uses 80mhz and even N uses 40mhz. So take care to spread things.. and you decide. Hence I use separate names for 2.4ghz and 5ghz so I can force clients to use band I choose.. not the one they choose.
Be experimental.. no one setup is ideal for everyone.. and since wireless is about 80% straight voodoo then try a few arrangements and see what works well for you. Be prepared to wipe the whole thing out and start over.. keep track of all the options you try in a log. (that is the science part.. log the voodoo!!)

Airport Extreme network performance problems - roaming network help!!

Hi! I have the following setup: ADSL2 Router (about 18Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up - tested by connecting laptop directly to modem), connected to Time capsule set up to "create network" in "bridge mode" 802.11n 2.4GHz. My desktop is connected directly to the Time Capsule - download speed is OK, upload speed is a mere fraction of what it is supposed to be, sometimes a mere 50Kbps. In the next room (about 5 meters and 2 walls away) speed on the wireless network drops to about a tenth of wha I get at the modem and I can not reliably use my apple TV in that same room as the bandwidth does not seem to cut it. I have an extra Airport Extreme base station but I can not seem to set it up to make the situation any better. If I set it up wireless to "extend the network" the speeds just drop further. If I try to set it up as a roaming network linking it directly to the time capsule via an ethernet cable as per the instructions from Apple, I would need to set the Time Capsule to be "distributing a public IP address", however whenever I try do this I just get a NAT error message saying I should switch to bridge mode (I have tried to change the subnet IP range, etc without any luck). If I switch to bridge mode and connect the airport extreme (also in bridge mode) I just get a network that is frozen . . . I am tearing my hair out : (( Is there a way to connect both the Time Capsule and the Airport Extreme to the modem/router to cast the same wifi network?? Or can I connect them to each other in bridge mode somehow?? Any suggestions will be much appreciated! Thanks

It would be a good idea to "hard reset" the "remote" AirPort Extreme (AEBS) to clear out any old and possibly conflicting settings. Hold in the reset button for 10-12 seconds. You'll see the amber light begin to blink more quickly during this process, just be sure to hold for the full 10-12 seconds and then release the reset button.
Check that the ethernet connection is from one of the LAN <-> ports on your "main" AEBS to the WAN (circle of dots icon) on the "remote" AEBS.
Open AirPort Utility and click Manual Setup
Click the Base Station tab located below the row of icons to assign a name for this AEBS, device password and adjust Time Zone settings
Click the Wireless tab
Wireless Mode = Create a wireless network
Wireless Network Name = Exact same name as your "main" AEBS wireless network
No check mark needed next to "Allow this network to be extended"
Radio Mode = Automatic
Radio Channel = Automatic
Wireless Security = Exact same setting as your "main" AEBS. Should be WPA2 Personal
Wireless Password = Same password as your "main" AEBS
Confirm Password
Click the Internet icon
Connect Using = Ethernet
Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)
Click Update to save settings and let the AEBS restart
Then, power down the entire network...all devices...order is not important
Start the modem first and let it run a moment
Start the next device attached to the modem the same way
Keep starting devices one at a time until the network is back up
You should be good to go.
Message was edited by: Bob Timmons

HT4260 Airport extreme and time capsule connection order in a roaming network

I plan to create a roaming network with my current Airport Extreme as the primary device connected to the internet and the new Time Capsule as the secondary device in Bridge mode. The connection between AE and TC will be wired (ethernet). Then I plan to connect the PC that needs backing up to the Time Capsule with an ethernet cable. Apart from the PC-backup functionality, I'd like to use the Time Capsule as a central NAS-device in my network. All other wired network devices that need access to the NAS (Apple TV, Xtreamer) are currently connected to the primary Airport Extreme with ethernet cables. My question: is there any reason why I should consider reversing the setup order, i.e. making the Time Capsule the primary device connected to the internet and the Airport Extreme the secondary device? Would this have a positive or negative effect on Time Capsule functionality and performance in the network? Thanks in advance for your thoughts!

Your Gen3 Extreme and all TC are gigabit.. as long as you connect with the required standard cable to have a gigabit connection between the two, there will effectively be no difference. In a home network you will struggle to saturate gigabit no matter what you do. Although the difference between the two configurations is really very small.
General rule is keep whatever is using the highest bandwidth closest and directly connected to whatever it is using.. shrug.. in this case you can follow or not.. it is more a guideline.

Settings for Roaming Network using Time Capsule plus old Airport Extreme

Hi all
I am trying to set up a network in the most effective way for my home and am experiencing some difficulties which I hope your support can help me overcome.
My home is constructed of concrete reinforced with steel and consequently the walls are dense and wireless signals are adversley affected. I have two wireless base stations via which I hope to provide wireless coverage to my whole home which is on the ground floor level only. My Time Capsule is located at one end of my home and is directly connected to my modem which receives the external fibre optic supplied internet connection. The Time Capsule is managed via Airport Utility 6.1. A mac is connected to the Time Capsule via ethernet cable - the Time Capsule also provides a wireless signal. Also connected to the Time Capsule via a long ethernet cable that is routed in internal cable channels within my home is an old conical shaped white Airport Extreme. The Airport Extreme is located at the other end of my house and also has a mac connected to it via ethernet and provides a wireless signal too. The Airport Extreme is managed via Airport Utility 5.6.
I hope to have a wireless network that my iphones and ipad can connect to in various areas of the house. I have read the instructions for setting up a Roaming Network, yet the screen shots provided do not reflect the screens I see using Airport Utility 5.6 and 6.1. Can anyone please assist with the settings that I require?
Also I have a question regarding a roaming network - if I connect a mobile device to the wireless network near to my Time Capsule and then move to the other end of my house near to the Airport Extreme what should happen to the wireless connection strength? Currently with my existing settings the mobile device is maintaining the connection to the Time Capsule and dropping to extremely low connections levels rather than picking up the wireless signal from the Airport Extreme. Should this be the case and if so is there some better way to set up my network?
Originally I had the Airport Extreme configured in a different location closer to the Time Capsule to extend the wireless network from the Time Capsule. The problem was that the Airport Extreme frequently seemed to not provide the newtork. I'm not sure if it lost the network from the Time Capsule or had some other problem.
All help will be greatly appreciated.

So just to be clear.. the Mac at the other end of the house.. has internet connection.. via ethernet.. through the old extreme.. ethernet to the TC.. which is connected via ethernet to the fibre connection.
Is the airport extreme in bridge mode?
As long as it is, you are good to go.
On both the TC and AEBS you create a wireless network.
On both TC and AEBS you name it the same.. eg 24ghz (please use short, no space, pure alphanumeric name).
You set both with the same security.. WPA2 Personal
You set both with the same passkey.. 8-12 characters pure alphanumeric.
BUT you set the wireless channels.. there are three channels that do not overlap.. 1, 6, 11 (13 in europe ME??)
Suggest you set TC to 6.. and set the AEBS to 11.
It might work on auto but IMHO wireless is something you are better controlling than leaving it to dumb algorithm

Roaming Network Options?

Can you explain this in more detail. I have been trying to understand what is the best way to "expand" the network in my house. Should I place my new AEBS in the ideal location, connected through ethernet as a bride and use the same SSID/Password as my router's network? Should I use WDS and Extend the network? Should I Extend the network but still connect to the router through ethernet? What are the differences between these?
I want to have it where I can roam throughout the house and not have to worry about managing anything. I just want my devices to connect to the network and have a strong signal. Thank you.

A "roaming" network is a configuration where all of the wireless access points or routers are connected back to a main router using an ethernet connection. This type of setup provides the best bandwidth performance for the network. Within reason, you can add as many wireless access points as you wish and place devices exactly where they are needed to provide as much wireless coverage as you wish. Commercial networks are designed using this type of configuration.
An "extended" network is one in which the main router and remote devices communicate together over wireless only. The remotes supply additional wireless coverage in the area where they are located. Placement of the remote devices is critical because they must receive a good wireless signal to be able to "extend" it effectively.
The basic "extend" configuration works like the hub and spokes of a wheel. The "main" router is the hub, so it needs to be in a central location within the home. The "remotes" are located as needed at the ends of the spokes. The remotes communicate directly to the hub, not to other devices at the ends of the other spokes.
The two main drawbacks to this type of system are that the remotes must be located where they will receive a good signal and there is some bandwidth loss, about 10-15% per remote device on average. So, the more remotes you add, the more bandwidth you lose, but you get more coverage...it's all a trade off. There's really no stated maximum number of remotes, but 3-4 would be about the practical limit for most homes. Many users use only 1-2 with good results.
Finally, there is an older technology called WDS which allows a setup consisting of a "main", "relay" and "remotes". While it might seem that this would be a good choice, the performance hit is substantial...50% bandwidth loss for each "relay" or "remote" and the system will only work at "g" wireless levels, so you lose any advantage of faster "n" speeds on newer routers. This would not be a good choice for most users most of the time, but in situations where older "g" routers are used with newer "n" routers, it is the only choice available to extend a wireless network.
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How can I use Airport Express to create a standalone Wi-Fi network without Internet Access so I can browse web pages on the local network? I will be using MAMP as my server (Apache)

I would like to create my own Wi-Fi standalone network at an upcoming tradeshow where there will be NO internet access.
Currently, I run and develop sites on my iMac use MAMP to manage my sites locally. Using MAMP, I run my sites as though they are on the internet although everything is local.
I purchased an Airport Express hoping I could create a standalone network so that the iMac would broadcast its website to whatever device connects to it such as my iPhone, iPad and MacBookPro.
However, after setting up the network successfully (I have a green light on the Airport Express, and there is NO internet going through it), I am not able to go any further by logging into the iMac's websites from the other machines. Form my MacBookPro Finder, I can look at files and folders using afp://10.0.1.2, from the Find/Go/Connect to Server utility, but I can't browse the website that is running on the iMac via the Safari browser.
Can anyone help me configure my MacBookPro (or iPad, or iPhone) to run the website on the iMac when they are all on the same network?
Thanks so much!!

1) connecting the TC using a ethernet cable from one of the two modem's LAN ports to the TC's WAN port
2) create a new Wi-Fi network using the TC ?
Does someone already create a new Wi-Fi network using its TC connected by Ethernet on a modem/router device ? How do you set up the DHCP (and NAT) ? Which range did you use ?
This is easy enough to do..
Plug the TC directly into a computer.. without other connections to do the setup.
Using the newly installed 5.6 utility.
Bridge the TC.
Create a wireless network.
This is an older screen shot and I would set security to WPA2 Personal only not WPA/WPA2 Personal as shown above.
I do recommend you use wireless names that are short, no spaces, pure alphanumeric.
Update the TC..
Now plug it into the modem router.. it will be a part of the network without doing NAT and DHCP itself.. which you do not want.. that leads to double NAT issues.. but it is a WAP that provides access to devices on both 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands directly to the main router.

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Having a gateway there is not going to be a problem. We just need to configure the Time Capsule correctly to work with the 2Wire.
You will need one ethernet cable to connect the 2Wire to the Time Capsule and a second ethernet cable to temporarily connect your computer to the Time Capsule so that it can be configured.
The 2Wire you have now should already be broadcasting a wireless network, so once you have the Time Capsule setup, you will actually have two wireless networks there.
Here's how to configure the Time Capsule to work with the 2Wire:
Connect an ethernet cable from one of the LAN <-> ports on the 2Wire to the WAN (circle icon) port on the Time Capsule.
Connect another ethernet cable temporarily from your computer to one of the LAN <-> ports on the Time Capsule
Open Hard Drive > Applications > Utilities > AirPort Utility
Click Manual Setup
Click the Base Station tab below the row of icons to assign a name for the Time Capsule, a device password (write this down) and adjust time zone settings
Click the Wireless tab below the row of icons
Wireless Mode....Create a wireless network
Wireless Network Name....Your choice
Radio Mode....Automatic
Channel...Automatic
Wireless Security...WPA/WPA2 Personal
Wireless Password....Your choice (write this down)
Check mark next to....Remember password in keychain
Click the Internet icon
At the bottom, change the setting for Connection Sharing to "Off (Bridge Mode)"
Click Update at the lower right and the Time Capsule will restart after 20-25 seconds and you should get the green light.
You should now be able to connect to your Time Capsule wireless network.
I'm not clear on whether you have tried to setup the Time Capsule to backup your computer. Post back if you need some info on that. We may need to start another thread for that as that will be a different subject.

Do I need a Roaming Network or a Wireless Distribution System?

Hello - as the title says, I am confused about which type of network I should create.
My specs: Macbook Pro
Windows XP Toshiba Laptop
White UFO-shaped Airport Extreme Base Station
New White Square-shaped Airport Extreme Base Station
1 USB HP Deskjet printer
1 Ministack USB hub/external hard drive
1 LaCie USB external hard drive
I am in the process of finishing my basement and will finally have an "office" to place all of my stuff. I want to be able to hook up the USB printer and USB external hard drives at the same time for wireless availability, so I bought the new AEBS. I am concerned about placing the AEBS in the basement and its impact on wireless signal strength to the upper floors of the house, so I thought I would connect the older UFO-shaped AEBS into the system to extend the wireless range.
I am confused, however, about whether to set up a "roaming network" or a "Wireless Distribution System". I am not sure of the particular benefits of either system given my situation so any help someone could provide would be greatly appreciated.
My house is fairly new, and has a data line system to each room, and I have a cable modem and router in the basement and can share the internet connection to the whole house in this manner. My UFO-shaped AEBS was hooked up to the internet connection via this method with an ethernet cable into the back of the AEBS on the main floor of the house. The USB printer was plugged into the UFO-shaped AEBS. This worked well. Again, now that the new AEBS will be in the basement, I am concerned about signal strength, and would like to use my old AEBS to help out.
I have looked at the Designing Airport Extreme 802.11n Networks pdf document and while it is very detailed about how to set up each of these networks, it does not seem to adequately (in my opinion) address why I would choose one setup over another. For example, should I continue to connect the old AEBS to the ethernet wall connection to get internet connectivity, or should the old AEBS receive its connection wirelessly?
Thanks in advance.

I am confused, however, about whether to set up a "roaming network" or a "Wireless Distribution System".
A roaming network uses Ethernet to connect the base stations. Therefore they all transmit good quality wireless data signals. Physically adjacent base stations should be configured to use channels 3 or more apart to reduce interference with each other. Everything gets full bandwidth.
A WDS network connects the base stations via wireless. Therefore the remote and relay base stations can only transmit data with the same quality as they receive it wirelessly. So if a remote station receives a lousy wireless signal from the main base, all of the clients of that remote station will get a lousy data rate. Also each WDS link cuts the available bandwidth in half.
Since your house is already wired for Ethernet, I would use the "roaming network".

Airport Roaming Network and Internet Sharing

Dear Esteemed Experts (Tesserax et. al):
Thanks to you, I have successfully set up TC and 2 Airport Express N in a roaming network (plugged to Ethernet but using the same name and protocol) using 802.11n (b/g compatible) radio mode. It's working well, except a few blind spots to cover.
If I want to add an old b/g-only Airport Express or Netgear Access Point (WG602) to this roaming network (plugging them into Ethernet outlet), will this slow down the N network?
Also, can I turn on Internet Sharing on my iMac (with N capability) and make it to join the Roaming Netowrk? If so, can I manage it through Airport Utility?
Thanks
Aghoo

If I want to add an old b/g-only Airport Express or Netgear Access Point (WG602) to this roaming network (plugging them into Ethernet outlet), will this slow down the N network?
If it is connected via Ethernet it will have no direct affect on the performance of the 802.11n network.
lso, can I turn on Internet Sharing on my iMac (with N capability) and make it to join the Roaming Netowrk?
Internet sharing has nothing to do with joining a wireless network. If you want your iMac to join the wireless network, just go to the AirPort menu and select the network that you want to join.
If so, can I manage it through Airport Utility?
AirPort Utility is only for managing Apple's base stations.

Roaming network without effect

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