SAP IDM vs SAP GRC

Hi All,
One basic question is coming again and again due to overlapping features of SAP IDM and SAP GRC. Why SAP IDM is required when all most all use cases can be fulfilled by SAP GRC? Is there any document available which can tell me why customer can choose IDM when he already has GRC?
1. SAP IDM and GRC both can accomplish access request and provisioning.
2. SAP IDM and GRC both has capability of risk management.
Then why SAP IDM is required?
Thanks,
Dhiman Paul.

Hi Dhiman,
SAP IDM is more flexible and is Java based (providing excellent customizations). GRC 10 is ABAP based and originally designed for Access Control. As mentioned by Chris, IDM connectors are flexible than GRC & provisioning workflow is highly variable.
I'd say if there are quite a few number of Legacy systems to be connected for IDM solution, SAP IDM would be an ideal choice than SAP GRC, as it can be implemented with less cost and customization.
My simple opinion. There may be other points as well.
BR,
Ganesh

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