SATA Raid K8N nforce3 BSOD HELP!

Hey.
I have spend 20+ hours trying to get my K8N Neo2 to work with SATA RAID 0, but no matter what I do I still get the BSOD on every boot. My setup:
MSI K8N Neo2
AMD64 3500 939
2xWD SATA Raptor 36GB 10000RPM on SATA 3&4
2x512MB PC3200 DDR400 Samsung ram
AOpen 300W PSU
Now I have tried to exchange ram, powersupply, and even the motherboard (tried diffferent brand same shitty chipset) so it's either the CPU or the nvidia raid drivers that are totally buggy! I have seen other threads describing similar problems, and I have followed all theirs suggestions aka this one
Neo2 Plat Raid 0; windows driver
still without success... This should work out of the box any suggestions??? Maybe it will work without raid, but I am not convinced
Thanks!

Yes, I did. I tried with the supplied floppy from MSI and with the newest taken from the nforce v. 5.10 on floppy too. I thought about installing without raid then installing the nforce drivers. install new harddisks setup in raid and then copy the windows partion using ghost to the raid disks... But all these workarounds shouldn't be necessary.
I have also tried installing a modded bios from syar with raid rom v.4.66 still same result. K8N Neo and Neo2 Bios Collection. *Updated official 1.5 bios for 7030 Neo1*
I appreciate your help. It's driving me nuts.

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HI! i'm the one wih the raid problem on a k8n neo2....
That's what a i Did.. i unpacked the exe and copy the files in a floppy... question is: if i do that, windows instaler askme for some files that aren't in the .exe, anway it reconices the raid and everithing goes fine until the first BOOT on windos... it shows a blue screen, butremoves it so fast that i cant read it or pause the system. But i know it's a raid problem because if i install it on a ide disk it works.
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from within windows .
Use the add hardware wizard from control panel .
Start the add-hw wizard .
Yes i have connected the hw - next .
Add a new hw device (bottom of the list ) -next .
Install the hw that i select manually from a list - next .
Select scsi/raid controller - next .
Choose have disk .
Then browse for the location of the nvraid.inf file

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to load drivers from disk. Sometimes it didn't detect any hard disk, sometimes
it showed two hd's and an array and so...
The whole spectrum of errors mentioned here over the last days and weeks...
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Quote from: Plumbergeek on 28-February-06, 20:05:17
Read this: http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=340514
I already have read that guide.
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earlier tonight i recommended this drive to someone else for a laptop application...
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Hi Davidsk2001
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beside that, if i trying to upgrade my motherboard version to latest version that download from nVidia website, my windows will occurs error/blue screen and cannot boot windows anymore and restart everytime when computer wanna try to boot the windows. What is the problem?? is that also cause from 'nVidia nForce Storage Controller' too?? last time i using another nForce board and can setup new driver and everything working fine. but this board make me so sick to update the driver
I've had this, the Driver asks if you want to update Pata drivers, if you say Yes it goes to blue screen on restart.
Use the Windows XP Pata Drivers NOT NVidia - there is no difference in performance
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when i wanna setup the SATA/RAID driver on the beginning of the windows setup, i can only run the 'nVidia RIAD class driver', if i setup the 'nVidia nForce Storage Controller' as well, my windows setup will occurs error and cannnot setup windows anymore unless i no install the 'nVidia nForce Storage Controller' at the next of windows setup. What happening actually??? i no have SATA hard disk, is that the problem occurs???
Are you using the Floppy Disc that came with your motherboard. This is faulty
Raid / Win XP install problems
you only have a IDE Drive
you dont need floppy when you install windows
Disk is for Raid and 'nVidia nForce Storage Controller' =Sata
Windows will install the XP IDE drivers ok
3)Quote
ya...BTW why the MSI utility software (WMI info) showing my AMD Athlon 64 proc data width only 32bit??? is that proc problem or the software problem??
do you mean the
Accessories / System Tools / System Information / I cant find anything
hope this helps

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