SATA to flash storage

I have an older MBP and I am buying a new one. I would be going from the SATA drive to a flash storage. I have always used windows until recently and I just am wondering the best way to get all the data from my older computer to my newer one. Thanks in advance

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1TB SATA vs 256GB Flash storage

Hello Apple Nation -
I am about to buy a new iMac (woo hoo!) and I had a question on the hard drive. I was looking for pros and cons of the 1TB SATA vs. 256GB Flash storage, beyond the obvious storage size difference. Any thoughts on the performance of one vs. the other?
As a sub-question, would a change in the processor (say upgrade from 3.4GHz i5 to the 3.5GHz i7) improve the performance of what I would assume (rightly or wrongly) of the 1TB SATA drive?
Thanks!

Thanks very much for the help. Great article from MacWorld, too.
If you don't mind me asking, what benefits do you see from the i5 vs the i7? Very much like one of the respondants in the macworld article, my main uses will be photos and gaming. Do you see any benefits in the upgrade?
I had been thinking the video card would be a good investment, but from what I saw it looked like there was a significant performance improvement between the NVIDIA 755M to the 775M (enough to justify the $200), but enough of an improvement between the 775M and the 780M (for an extra $150).
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
Thanks for your help!

Can the flash storage hard drives in the brand new 15inch Macbook Pro Retina Display laptops (10.22.13) be upgraded/replaced in the future?

Can the flash storage hard drives in the brand new Macbook Pro Retina Display laptops that were just released a few days ago (10.22.13) be upgraded/replaced in the future? I will need more than the basic 256GB for sample libraries using music software, among other things, but currently larger flash drives from Apple are too expensive. I ask because I'm in the process of buying one of the new 15inch Macbook Pro Retina Display laptops right now (or at least right after I get an answer to this question).
I saw in the Mac store when I started looking at the build options for ordering the Macbook Pro that under Memory it said the memory was built into the computer and therefore could not ever be replaced or upgraded in the future. So I was wondering if something similiar might be the case with the flash storage drives even though the same wasn't written under the hard drive options? If these flash drives can be replaced in the future then I would just purchase the starting 256GB drive and suffer through using connected external hard drives, as unwieldy as that would be, until there were potential replacement flash drives with larger storage capacties available on the market or through Apple for more reasonable prices. But if the hard drives in these laptops can't be replaced/upgraded I would go for the 500GB drive option (even though paying an additional $300, before taxes, for just 244GBs more storage space is absolutely outrageous no matter how great flash drives are with their read/write speeds, no moving parts to break, and lighter weight/thinner builds allowing for an overall thinner laptop). I would even go for the larger 1TB option, which is really what I need, except that costs an additional $700 which is more than enough to buy me a new 50inch, HD, flatscreen TV from a reputable brand if I were so inclined! (And yes, I understand the youth of the technology, current limits to flash drive capacities, and the reason for the high prices. I know I'm not getting bilked...)
So yeah, does anybody have an answer to this question? Can the flash hard drives in the new Macbook Pro Retina Display laptops, just released, be upgraded/replaced in the future? Any answers are greatly appreciated and will save me some much needed cash on my purchase of one of these laptops! And I should also ask, if so, can they be replaced by the laptop owner with the normal toolset through the normal, easily done methods of hard drive replacement in laptops that has been common, or would I have to bring the laptop to a Apple technician?
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The modules are proprietary. They are installed in a slot secured with a tiny screw.
macsales.com has been working on providing aftermarket modules for the older models that were on the SATA Bus.
These newer ones are likley directly on the PCIe Bus. That will take some time to develop.

Can PCI flash storage on the new MBPs be replaced with a HDD?

I'm looking to buy a new Macbook Pro. Apple's store has several available, all but one of which use PCI-based flash storage as opposed to SATA drives.
My question is, if I buy one of these, is it possible to swap out the flash storage drive for a hard drive, or does it use a different kind of connection? I seem to remember that the entire bus has been overhauled for these new PCI ones meaning that it's no longer as simple as simply swapping an SSD for a HDD manually.
Does anyone know if it can be done?

RestonManJavaLuver wrote:
Is she wrong - are these actually going to people's homes, being used, then returned and resold?
Some are some are not. Otherwise Apple has a ton of Mac's sitting around that have been returned by customers under their 14 day No Questions Asked return policy.
But they not just Returned and Resold. They go back to Apple, checked out (Tested) any parts that are not up to spec replaced and then repackaged in a plain white box to be sold as refurbs.

Can you change flash storage to normal storages

CCan you change flash storage for normal storage

Please word your question more clearly or in another way and someone should be able to provide an answer.
Are you referring to a replacement drive for the MacBook Pro that you already own, or a new Mac that you plan on purchasing but don't want an SSD (Flash) hard drive?
Other than cost per GB, a "normal", "old-school", 2.5" SATA laptop HDD will underperform nearly any modern "flash" SSD in a laptop.

How to read from 256GB PCIe-based flash storage

The logic board on the new 15 inch macbook pro retina is busted. I need to recover the data from my 256GB PCIe-based flash storage. Since the macbook pro doesnt boot up - there is no way for me to recover this data. It would be great if there is way to recover this data through a reader or using it as an external hard drive ?

OWC has their slimline, external Envoy enclosure for receiving the PCIe storage card from a MacBook Pro (2012 - Jan. 2013) models. In red ink, they emphasize it is not to be used for Fall 2013 or later MBP technology — so that solution is out.
Here is an iFixit guide on how to remove the PCie storage card from a 2014 MacBook Pro, in case you need to go there.
Out of town right now, so don't have access to a traditional SATA machine to test if Target Disk Mode still works with new 2014 PCIe machines.

Flash storage in Macbook Air

Hi all,
I am a bit confused here. I am informed that the Macbook Air 2013 uses Solid State Drive but in Apple's website, it just mentions 'Flash storage'. Is it just the same?

same thing, its solid state storage.
distinction without a difference.
this is the SSD "flash storage" in the macbook Air, uses micro SATA
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Will a 2.66 mac pro accept SSD flash storage drive?

I am trying to find out if Mac Pro 2.66 OS10.6.8 will run properly using the SSD Flash storage drives that are now available?

I love just really get a lot more out of my Mac Pro now with Samsung $100 SSD than I ever did, and OWC or Amazon $15 adapters.
One easy great way to breath new life into 7 yrs old hardware.
$31 for 2x2GB FBDIMM to get more RAM is another easy and now cheap higher quality.
I feel like I bought a year and can skip "1.0" of any new OS plus new hardware until it too has had 6 months at least to iron itself out.
Don't be put off. That SSD III can and should work fine AND use it whenever you do get another Mac or decide to add a PCIe SATA SSD controller card ($150) to add SATA3 6G.

Retina MBP flash storage I/O

Does the 15 inch retina mbp use PCIe or SATA I/O for its flash storage?

Your boot times should be dramatically less, but after that casual work like web browsing and text editing there will be little difference. But when you start using 'heavy duty' applications, such as Photo shop, the SSD will again speed things up. Look at these bench tests from the OWC website:
http://eshop.macsales.com/Reviews/Framework.cfm?page=/Benchmarks/CS5BenchmarkPag e-MacBookPro13.html
Ciao.

Suggestion for a new macbookair flash storage capacity for dual OS

I'm planning to buy my first MBA. I'll work using logic pro and office for mac. But I also have one app that need run on win7. This app size is max 200mb.
To keep my final working file, I plan to buy external storage.
My question, looking at my work needs, pls advise what is the ideal flash storage size I should pick ? Is it 128, 256 or 512Gb ? Ideal for me means, not overcapacity flash storage.
Tx all

Hi Dikanug,
Out of interest, so I can further select the best capacity of Flash Storage, how many document do you plan to save on the computer using Office and how often are you going to use Logic Pro?
This will help determine the best capacity.
Obviously the Logic Pro files will need to stay on the Mac however it is probably cheeper to have a Small Flash Storage and store any file that does not need to be on the actually Macintosh Drive, stored on a large external Hard Drive with files such as Office files.
Obviously the Logic Pro files will be anywhere from 10mb -up and therefore this will be needed to be taken into consideration when purchasing the Flash.
Just for your sake: 14 tracks of audio, 10 of which are drums and a song that is about 5 minutes long, could be at least 25mb in file capacity.
Remember once you have bought the device you cannot make the capacity bigger and thereofre it is better to have more than not enough however do not waste your money if you do not need it.

How do you remove back up data from the memory storage? my storage data states that i have over 80gb of data used for back ups and i dont know why as i use a external hard drive as a time machine .now my 250gb flash storage is nearly full

how do you remove back up data from the memory storage? my storage data states that i have over 80gb of data used for back ups and i dont know why as i use a external hard drive as a time machine .now my 250gb flash storage is nearly full.. HELP!

When Time Machine backs up a portable Mac, some of the free space will be used to make local snapshots, which are backup copies of recently deleted files. The space occupied by local snapshots is reported as available by the Finder, and should be considered as such. In the Storage display of System Information, local snapshots are shown as Backups. The snapshots are automatically deleted when they expire or when free space falls below a certain level. You ordinarily don't need to, and should not, delete local snapshots yourself. If you followed bad advice to disable local snapshots by running a shell command, you may have ended up with a lot of data in the Other category. Ask for instructions in that case.
See this support article for some simple ways to free up storage space.

Transferring data from 750GB backup drive to new MacBook Pro with 256 Gb PCI-e flash storage?

Yesterday my late-2008 aluminium unibody MacBook died - absolutely and definitively. I've tried SMC reset multiple times to no avail. However, it served me well for almost six years and it's now time to move on. I've decided to buy a 13 inch MacBook Pro Retina with 256Gb PCI-e flash storage. Obviously, it will come with Mavericks installed as the operating system.
When it died, my MacBook was running OS X 10.8.5, the original hard drive had been replaced with a Western Digital 750GB, 7200 rpm drive of which I believe about 350GB was used. I keep two x 1Tb Lacie Rugged backup drives, each of which has both Time Machine and SuperDuper Bootable Clone backups.
My questions are these -
1.     How should I proceed to transfer my data from my external backup drives to my new MacBook Pro Retina, given the difference in storage capacity of my existing backup drives and my new MacBook Pro?
2.     I have over 32,000 photos in my iPhoto Library which, obviously, consume a big slab of disk space. I'm not sure how I go about 'quarantining' the iPhoto Library so that it doesn't use all the flash drive storage.
3.      One of the Lacie Rugged's has a 'triple interface' - i.e. USB 2, Firewire 400 and Firewire 800. The other has a USB 2 and 2 x Firewire 800 (IIRC).    The MacBook Pro Retina has two USB 3 ports and two Thunderbolt 2 ports. I want to continue to use the Lacies as my backup drives. Am I better off to use the USB ports or should I invest in a Thunderbolt to USB cable? Does it make any real difference in terms of backing up (which, in my case, doesn't have to be all that speedy).
4.     What else should I be thinking about? I know I'm bound to have overlooked the most obvious problems but can't think what they may be ...
Cheers
Tricia

Patricia Henwood wrote:
3.      One of the Lacie Rugged's has a 'triple interface' - i.e. USB 2, Firewire 400 and Firewire 800. The other has a USB 2 and 2 x Firewire 800 (IIRC).    The MacBook Pro Retina has two USB 3 ports and two Thunderbolt 2 ports. I want to continue to use the Lacies as my backup drives. Am I better off to use the USB ports or should I invest in a Thunderbolt to USB cable? Does it make any real difference in terms of backing up (which, in my case, doesn't have to be all that speedy).
USB3 is backwards compatible with USB2, so you can use the old USB cables. For faster data transfer rates, Firewire 800 would be available using this adapter:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD464ZM/A/apple-thunderbolt-to-firewire-adapte r
Firewire 800 is about twice as fast as USB2, theoretically.
Ciao.

What is flash storage?

What is the difference in flash storage and a traditional hard drive? Why would I want to pay so much for a laptop that only has a fraction of the storage capacity of a old hard drive? If I have a lot of movies, music, games, etc. on my laptop, wouldn't I run out of room much faster or is the computers memory configured in a manner that keeps programs and such from using as much memory. I am a avid Apple product advocate because of the unquestionable quality and reliability of the products but As I am shopping for a new laptop, I find myself questioning why I would pay much more to downgrade hard-drive space on top of the fact that the "flash storage" is a new and relatively un-tested technology. I realize that apple has likely done intensive research on the new flash storage but I don't want to have to constantly monitor my available storage on a MacBook that I just paid $1200 bucks for. I also have read that in the event of a un-repairable system crash, recovery of data from a flash storage is extremely difficult if not impossible. My current Apple products which have the "old school" hard drive are very fast to open programs and apps, so why would I would want essentially pay twice as much to downgrade? I am a extreme tech. Idiot so someone please help me because I absolutely don't understand how I would be doing myself any favors buying a new version MacBook. Thanks so much!

Christy, when SSD drives were first released I thought, "Huh?" I had some of the same questions you did. Today every computer I use has either an SSD or a hybrid drive. (A hybrid drive is basically a standard drive with a small SSD. As Seagate's technology has improved it provides many of the advantages of an SSD at a lower cost.) Here's why:
SSDs are wicked fast and for some professional users this speed is significant, not just a convenience. The speed of an SSD also gives makes virtual memory more useful. Most of us launch multiple programs using more memory than our computers actually have and that works because programs running in the background can be shifted to the hard drive and brought back into RAM when they are moved back to the front. There's a noticeable slowdown when VM is being used because moving the program to/from the hard drive takes time. With an SSD it takes no time, in fact, I've noticed that a computer with an SSD feels like it has more memory. My 2007 iMac was maxed out to 6GB of RAM and starting with Lion it began to feel slow because it needed more RAM. With its drive upgrade it suddenly began performing much like my 8GB 2009 notebook - that was quite a big difference.
For mobile computers the SSD provides two additional advantages: An SSD requires less power so the battery lasts longer and because it has no moving parts it won't be crashed by inadvertent movement. And yes, if the SSD dies data can't be retrieved as with a standard hard drive. Then again most of us aren't going to pay the $500-$2500 that this treatment costs. Frequent backups are no substitute for Drive Savers.
The disadvantage is the cost per gigabyte which is dropping fast. The 256GB drive I bought 18 months ago is now selling for half the price I paid for it - and I paid half of what it cost just 6 months earlier! Still the price difference is there and that's why Apple is selling its desktop computers with a Fusion drive option - a combination of standard drive with a small SSD.
For notebook users, the SSD option can require a bit of discipline and how you handle it will depend on whether the notebook is your only computer or if you have a desktop too. I keep my media on the desktop, not my MBA. Apple's iTunes Match came at exactly the right time for me; I keep a small part of my collection on the Air and stream music from the cloud when I'm in WiFi range. I copy a few movies from my desktop to an sdRAM card for when I travel.
As I said, I am sold on SSDs and won't consider a standard drive on any of my computers again.

4GB memory on new MacBook Pro Retina 13 with 2.4GHz dual core i5 processor &128GB flash storage

Hello,
I'm completely new to the mac world but I'm fed up with pc's and all the insanity with processor problems, viruses, etc. I'm seriously looking at replacing my HP laptop with the new MacBook Pro Retina 13 with 2.4GHz dual core i5 processor, 4GB memory (RAM) & 128GB flash storage, OS X Mavericks (not sure which version). My concern is whether this will be reliably & consistantly fast & smooth both in desktop apps & internet use. I don't need it to do somersaults or anything too advanced. I would mostly be using Pages & spreadsheet apps & internet. It would double as my daughter's computer for cyber school so it's crucial that it runs quickly & efficiently. If she can't complete everything on time or log in to her online sessions because of a computer issue we'll be up a creek without a paddle since this particular cyber school's tech department is still working off of pc's running Windows XP. My father, thus far a pc user, thought I should consider moving up to 8GB memory but I was hoping that with flash storage being faster, I would be able to avoid the extra $100 for the upgrade to 8GB. My biggest fear is finding myself as frustrated & angry as I am now with all of my pc's, ready to take a sledge hammer to them because they take forever to boot, launch apps, internet or do just about anything (that is if they're even fuctioning at all- not joking). Does anyone have any advice or input? Thanks!!
P.s. On Apple's site I found a refurbished late 2013 model of the MacBook Pro Retina 13 with all of the same specs as listed above (4GB, not 8GB), running OS X (doesn't say which one) but for a bit less than a brand new one. Is this the same model as what they're currently selling new in their store or did they just upgrade everything to match what is being offered in the current "new" model? I realize this may be a dumb question but I can't seem to find anything online indicated that Apple has released a model newer than what was released late last year (October 2013, I believe), except that the model released then came with SSD storage instead of flash.

No computer is fault free but Apple MBPs have a good track record. In those cases where problems do arise, Apple has the best support in the industry.
A MBP with 4 GB RAM with the SSD storage should be adequate for your needs.
lsmoondancer01 wrote:
P.s. On Apple's site I found a refurbished late 2013 model of the MacBook Pro Retina 13 with all of the same specs as listed above (4GB, not 8GB), running OS X (doesn't say which one) but for a bit less than a brand new one. Is this the same model as what they're currently selling new in their store or did they just upgrade everything to match what is being offered in the current "new" model?
The latest MBP models came out in October 2013, so it will be the same, with the same warranty and telephone support. The difference will be that the price will be less and it will be delivered in a plain white box.
I have purchased three MBPs from the refurbished section. I have never been able to detect any cosmetic differences and will go that route again.
Ciao.

Can't install os mavericks because don't have macbook air flash storage firmware update 1.1; can't install firmware update because OS is too old (10.7.4)

Hello, I have a Macbook Air, bought May 2012 or so that came with OS 10.7.4 on it. Did not try to upgrade OS until recently. Tried to upgrade to OS Mavericks, however received error message 'Before installing OS X Mavericks this system requires MacBook Air Flash Storage Firmware Update 1.1." I then downloaded and attempted to install said Firmware Update 1.1, but received another error message, to wit: "This update requires 10.7.5 or 10.8.5 or later"
Who can help me out the this Catch-22? I thought about first updating to OS 10.8, but apparently that is no longer available?

Hi CursedIn,
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