Schema change questions

Hello,
A few questions, about schema changes:
1) How can we add a field to all documents in a collection and set a default value for it? So for example, let's say that we have a collection with documents that have two fields, mainly, Field1 and Field2. We want to add Field3 to all the documents in the
collection and set it's default value. How can we do that?
2) If it's possible to do #1. Can we add Field3 to only certain documents in a collection and not to others? and how would we do that?
3) Can we rename fields? or delete fields for a) All documents in a collection? b) only certain documents in a collection? and how can we do that?
Thanks,
Mike

Absolutely!
I think you'd be interested in DocumentDB's server side programming model. It allows you to place run batching and sequencing operations inside the database - avoiding the need to do extra round trips between your application and the database.
For this scenario, I'd consider writing a bulk update stored procedure. You can implement a continuation model inside the script for updates on large batches. The steps would be to query for the specific documents you are looking for. Then for each document
- apply your updates (e.g. adding Field3, renaming fields, deleting fields) to the document and write it to the database.
I have a few related stored procedure code samples available:
Bulk deleting specific documents based on an user-specified query:
https://github.com/aliuy/azure-node-samples/blob/master/documentdb-server-side-js/bulkDelete.js
Update a document (w/ support for set, unset, and rename):
https://github.com/aliuy/azure-node-samples/blob/master/documentdb-server-side-js/update.js
I will work on getting a bulk update sample for you :)
I'd also recommend checking out this 5 minute video for a brief introduction on server-side scripting:
http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Windows-Azure/Azure-Demo-A-Quick-Intro-to-Azure-DocumentDBs-Server-Side-Javascript
And for more complete documentation, check out:
http://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/documentation/articles/documentdb-programming/

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Thank you kindly for your response. Also thanks to Kalman Toth for showing the right forum for such questions.
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