Section endnote numbering problems

I had been numbering endnote consecutively throughout a long document - but then discovered that I had to change to numbering them by sections. I've put in section breaks and used the document inspector to instruct the program to start numbering again in each section - but that isn't happening - though the numbers sometime do change in the text, they do not in the endnotes. How do I fix?

klaply wrote:
Reading through other posts about this, I have found that I have to add a section break in order to make this work, between the title page (1) and the real first page (2). But the problem is whenever I add a section break, it creates an entire blank page for the section break, so I end up with title page, blank page, real first page. Even if I have enough space, etc... every time I create a new section I get a blank page which I cannot type on or use, without deleting the section break and putting me back to square one.
My guess is that an object is embedded in your title page which fools the tool cuttting the document in pages because on my machine, it works flawlessly.
You may activate the "Show Invisibles" function which may help to find if there is an odd character embedded.
Does a section break always do this (add a new blank unuseable page)?
NO, here it doesn't
Just have it be a simple thing somewhere that allows the page (or section) to start at "0")
It would not solve the problem because it would display the number 0 on the first page which is not what you want.
It would not solve the problem for those wanting a numbering starting on page 3 (or on page 4 …)
Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE mardi 15 juillet 2008 17:40:19)

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klaply wrote:
Reading through other posts about this, I have found that I have to add a section break in order to make this work, between the title page (1) and the real first page (2). But the problem is whenever I add a section break, it creates an entire blank page for the section break, so I end up with title page, blank page, real first page. Even if I have enough space, etc... every time I create a new section I get a blank page which I cannot type on or use, without deleting the section break and putting me back to square one.
My guess is that an object is embedded in your title page which fools the tool cuttting the document in pages because on my machine, it works flawlessly.
You may activate the "Show Invisibles" function which may help to find if there is an odd character embedded.
Does a section break always do this (add a new blank unuseable page)?
NO, here it doesn't
Just have it be a simple thing somewhere that allows the page (or section) to start at "0")
It would not solve the problem because it would display the number 0 on the first page which is not what you want.
It would not solve the problem for those wanting a numbering starting on page 3 (or on page 4 …)
Yvan KOENIG (from FRANCE mardi 15 juillet 2008 17:40:19)

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