SEM-BCS Preparation for Consolidation Group Changes

Hi All,
Is the task "Preparation for Consolidation Group Changes" only implemented when Consolidation of Investments has also been implemented?
Does "Preparation for Consolidation Group Changes" have any value on its own?
Any comments, replies or suggestions most welcome.

Hi,
I think that prep for cons group changes is independent (but supplementary to) from CoI.
See what is said in help:
"When in the middle of a fiscal year a consolidation unit is either acquired by a consolidation group (acquisition), divested from a consolidation group (divestiture), or <b>changes its accounting technique</b> (method change), the following data must be adjusted:
- Reported financial data
- Standardized financial data
- Consolidated data with posting level 20"
As you can see, not only consolidated data are to be changed, but also Standardized and Reported.
Moreover, as is seen above, changes of accounting technique will also trigger such activities.
So, my answers:
1. No
2. Yes.
Best regards,
Eugene

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Preparation for Consolidation group changes

Hi Experts,
I have worked on BCS but new to consolidation of investments and PCC.
I am not able to understand the Preparation for Consolidation (PCC) tasks as to why are they required. I've the following questions: -
1. SAP help says PCC tasks are supplementary to the C/I tasks. Could you elaborate on how are the suuplementary to C/I tasks?
2. What is the diff. between Acuisition in case of C/I and in case of PCC?
3. In terms of reporting what will go worng if we don't run PCC tasks after a new acquisition let say.
Thanks in advance,
SSC

1. PCC creates records to offset the balance sheet balances upon divestiture. These records include the relevant cons group values, where most BCS records do not include cons group because cons group in most cases is determined dynamically via the BCS virtual infocube function module's consolidations logic.
2. PCC records and documents only occur when there is a divestiture in the master data for a cons group. This could occur for a divestiture or transfer activity. Acquisition does not affect PCC, except when it occurs as a result of a transfer, and it is relevant to the divestiture portion of the transfer as opposed to the acquisition portion.
3. Nothing after an acquisition, it is mainly for divestitures and transfers (where a divestiture is necessary in the cons group master data).

Execution of preparation for consolidation group changes

Hello,
In 1/2011 there was a change in the consolidation units hierarchy.
A consolidation unit moved to upper consolidation group.
I cannot find in the master data of the consolidation unit , where should I update the FIRST CONSOLIDATION DATE,
and the LAST CONSOLIDATION DATE.
Best regards,
Odelia Volfovich.

Look at the master data of the cons groups - both the initial cons group as well as the new cons group.
If this truly is a vertical move up the hierarchy, the initial cons group should have a period of divestiture, as 001/2011.
Because the cons unit has always been a part of the higher up cons group via the lower cons groups ownership, the new cons group should have period of first consolidation the same as that of the initial cons group.
The cons unit should remain in both cons groups until at least the end of the fiscal year and in many cases, depending on the reporting needs for year-over-year comparison reporting, it should remain for an additional year or more.

Preparations for Consolidaton Group Chanes Process

Hi all
does any one ran Preparation for Consolidation Group change task @ Consolidation Monitor where moving OLD CONS GROUP to NEW CONS GROUP with mimimal changes in other words, as it is to NEW GROUP( change in PARENT UNIT)
my questions:
1. do we need to make any adjustment entries until AFD? think no Change except Parent Unit will change from OLD to NEW
2. Ending period is NEW CONS GROUP Creation @ CG master data level because the same period for PREP Cons Group task
3. how to handle Goodwill in this process where subs were 100% owned by parent units.
appreciated your comments/suggestions/help in advance

Hi Dan
item No.2 is I have made ending period as 006/2009 for OLD CONS GROUP for all CONS UNITS
Yes, New CONS GROUP is 006/2010 to 012/9999
Please clarify one more thing:
CG1       001/2008 to 006/2010
   CU-1 -> PU
   CU-2
         I....... CG21
                      CU - 2 ..> PU
                      CU-220
                      CU-221
                        I..... CG2210
                                - CU -221 ..> PU
                                   CU -222
   CU-3
new group: 006/2010 TO 012/9999
CGA       006/2010 to 012/9999
   CU - A ...> PU
   CU-2
         I....... CG01
                      CU - 1 ..> PU
                      CU-220 A
                      CU-221A
                        I..... CG2210A
                                - CU -221 ..> PU
                                   CU -222
   CU-3
Question: Now in New CG01, CU-1 is no longer TOP PU and its CU-A ( which exist in 006/2010)
What is the process now? still need a transfer and or just ending for CU-1 as 001/2008 to 006/2010
appreciated your comments/help

COI not reading equity data after consolidation group change

Dear experts,
I am running the consolidation of investments task for a new group that has been created on 012.2009. This new group CG2 is a child of an existing one CG1, and all the consolidation units that I have in 012.2009 under CG2 were in 012.2008 under the CG1.
In my new group GC2 all the units have as first consolidation period 012.2009 and on the parent group they have as last consolidation period 012.2009.
The problem is that when I run the COI task the system does not read the equity data for these consolidation units. I have both, equity data and Investment data defined to be read from additional financial data. The system reads correctly the investment data for the parent consolidation unit, and tries to eliminate it, but as it does not read the equity data of the child so it takes the value to consolidation a difference, that is incorrect.
Does anyone know what I am missing?
Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Sónia

Hi Sonia
i dont want to confuse you as Dan is guiding so far. let me put my thoughts some here.
CG1 12/2008
   - CU - A    Parent    12/2008 to 999/9999
   - CU- B                   12/2008 to 999/9999
   - CU - C                  12/2008 to 999/9999
do you have any another sub node for CU-B and CU-C? as B has investment in C
New Group: 12/2009
CG1
   - CU -A    12/08 to 999/9999
   - CU - B    12/08 to 12/9999
   - CU - C     12/08 to 12/2009
   CG2 group supose to be like this
CG1
    -CU-A
    -CU-B
       I--- CG2
             CU - B   Parent 12/09 to 999/9999
             CU - C                12/09 to 999/9999
     - CU-C
Now with above scenario you can invest in C from B and system will treate as FIRST CONSOLIDATION based on AFD Investments/Equity
How did you maintain B investments in C at CG1 12/08 level?
and or    as per Dan
You have to run PREP for CONSOLIDATION GROUP CHANGE task before CT task and after Elim Taks but before COI task
thx

BCS Virtual Cube Cons Group Change

Hi,
We have a number of Bex reports that read from the BCS virtual cube for our month end reporting.
Quite recently, we prerfomed some Cons Group changes in the BCS application which has impacted our Bex reports via the virtual cube.
If we check the contents of the virtual cube with Cons Group displayed in the output, we see it is missing data (period blank) and this is the data that is being extracted to our Bex report.
If however we check the contents of the virtual cube without diplaying Cons Group, then we get our disired result.
Has anyone experienced anything similiar? Is it possible to get Bex to read the data we require?
Thanks in advance.

It is suggested you read the SAP BCS help for cons group changes.
In most cases the cons units should not be removed from the "divesting" cons group when adding it to another cons group. The cons group master data for the "divesting" cons group should simply be updated for these units with a period/year of divestiture - the period of change.
Additionally the cons group changes tasks move the balance sheet items from the "divesting" cons group to the "acquiring" group with posting level 02. 12 and 22 records to allow for reporting of pre- and post- change reporting on these cons groups.

Preparation for Consolidation in SEM-BCS.

Hello All,
Im implementing SEM - BCS (BW-based). I have the following versions:
- R/3: SAP ECC 6.0
- BW: 7.0
- SEM: 6.0
What do I have to customize in R/3 in order to extract the correct data to BW?
Do I have to do all the customization in transaction SPRO (Enterprise Controlling -> Integration: Preparation for Consolidation)?
I know that I have to create the companies and assign them to the company codes. I also have to create group chart of accounts and assign it to the transactional chart of accounts.
Can I do this in the account master data or do I have to have a Financial Statement Version for the Group?
Is it necessary to maintain Transaction Types for Consolidation?
Do I have to customize the Consolidation Staging Ledger and extract the data from here to BW?
I think I have to customize all this, but because all this transactions are in EC-CS customizing and I want to implement SEM - BCS (in BW), Im not sure if this is the right path.
Can anyone help me?
Regards,
Helena

Helena Coelho wrote:Helena Coelho wrote:Helena Coelho wrote:Helena Coelho wrote:
GANSHA,
what you are telling me is:
- I don´t have to do the customization in ECC. The only thing I have to do is, identify the tables and extract the data I need to BW.
But this way, how does the system know, which postings are from group companies or not?
The company code in R/3 is equivalent to company (consolidation unit role) in BCS. The Group companies are created in BCS and the companies in BCS are under those group companies.
If I were you, I would check whether Fiscal Year Variant is same across all company codes in R/3. I would also check whether parallel currencies are activated or not. Non-activation of parallel currency is not issue, but I will try to understand what are all the currencies involved and the currency translation flow.
I have created the companies in ECC in order to fill the "Trading Partner" field in the master data ( vendor, customer and G/L accounts) and to use on FI postings.
Yes, you have taken the right steps.
I have created the transaction types in ECC in order to use them on FI postings.
None of this is necessary? I dont have all the company codes in SAP, some of the data will be uploaded to BW by file.
The transaction types in ECC are different from the transaction types (also known as Movement Types) in BCS. You will continue to maintain the FI transaction types.
Regarding the chart of accounts, I dont have a group chart of accounts. For what I understand theres two ways:
- creating a group chart of accounts in ECC and in BW will be available as part of the GL account master data
or
- creating Financial statement items for consolidation in ECC, Build a Financial Statement Version for the Group (linking the operational chart of accounts to the consolidation items).
I think, this is the only way for me to use the consolidation staging ledger (totals table GLT3)? Or am I wrong?
What you are telling me is that I dont have to do this in ECC, but in BCS customizing?
Im confused ... please help me!!!
Helena
In your ECC, whether GLT3 table is activated? In many clients' companies, GLT3 table is not activated. The GL totals data is available in BSEG table.
If you do not have Group COA/ Group GL accounts maintained now, there are many ways to get GL totals data with Group GL level info added. You have already mentioned the steps.
One more method is create a custom mapping table of Operational GL accounts with Group GL accounts outside R/3 (to be maintained as part of BW) and make your R/3 GL totals data to flow thru this table, so that the final data in BW is available in both operational GL accounts and Group GL accounts. Developers will be able to help you.
Edited by: GANSHA on Jan 11, 2008 8:39 AM

Consolidation Group Change and Consolidation Activity

Hi Experts,
I am new in SAP consolidation, I have a question regarding the difference between the function "consolidation group change" and "consolidation activity".
If I read in the sap library, these 2 functions are separated, but if I look at the content, I saw some similarity where the consolidation group change also included the investment activity like acquisition and divestiture.
Could anyone explain what are the difference between these 2 function?
When I was a user, if the group acquiered a new cons unit, I just add a new cons unit in the consolidation group hierarchy, assign consolidation method, add the additional financial data for the ownership percentage (activity = first consolidation), enter the reported financial data, run CI function and add one more column in my report painter.
When I read SAP library, I saw the "consolidation group change" function talking about the consolidation activity, now I wonder, what are the difference? What is the business scenario for using the "normal" CI activity and the "consolidation group change"? Please anyone advise. Thank you.
regards,

Normal C/I is a regular acquisition or divestiture. Cons Group Change could be movement of a company from one consolidation group to another (i.e., parent A sells company 1 to parent B). Or you own a company 20% and purchase an additional 60% and must switch accounting technique from Equity to Purchase. BCS will need to book Cons Group Change entries to account for the acct technique change. (In the past, at 20%, you would only book equity pickup, or equitization entries, to the parent as PL30 adjustments in the CoI. Now you must bring in the complete balances of the company due to purchase method of consolidation. BCS books consolidation-group specific adjustments to do this.)
Example....
"Normal C/I activity"
New company A needs be consolidated in Cons Group 1 starting in 03/2007. Add the company to the Cons Group master data, set the accounting technique, update additional financial data w/ activity First consolidation and load data for the new company. Run COI
"Cons Group Change"
Company A is consolidated in Cons Group 1, but starting in 06/2007 they will be sold to a parent in Cons Group 2. Update the Cons Group master data...setting company A to divest in 06/2007 from CG1 and to First Consolidate in CG2 starting in 06/2007. If using Org Change logic, create an Org Change number and define a sender/receiver relationship for CG1 --> CG2. In additional financial data, create a total transfer activity w/ org change logic from CG1 to CG2. Run Org Change task and BCS will zero out balance sheet related to company A in CG1 on posting level 02/12/22. In CG2, similar postings will book "catch up" entries in 06/2007 to bring full balance sheet into CG2. In CoI, company will be transferred to new parent.
Hopefully that makes sense...
Chris

Consolidation group change: Balance sheet/income statement balance 14,560

Dear All,
While performing the consolidation group change task, system throws the error message :
Balance sheet/income statement balance 14,560,497.62- INR
Message no. UCD1011
Diagnosis
The document to be posted is not completely in balance.
Entries involving items of the balance sheet or the income statement must always have a zero balance to ensure that both the balance sheet and the income statement are balanced, respectively. This is not true in this case.
System Response
Entry cannot be posted.
Procedure
Correct the amounts for the balance sheet items and/or income statement items.
I have checked the COI Settings and not showing any error.
I have analysed the problem and found that system is not picking one FS item 107501 i.e Profit and Loss CY.
Can any one suggest me how to resolve this.
Thanks in advance.
G Vinod

Hi DAN,
i ll elaborate what i wanted to convey.
When we upload
1. TB Equal to ZERO
2. Net of BS items may not be equal to ZERO
Eg: if September 2010 (FY is April to Mar) file is being uploaded, the profit till the period September will be in PL items. so to the extent of profit element will be the difference in BS Items.
when u run profit calculation task, after data upload and validation, system will pass the following entry,
In case of Loss:
BS - Profit and loss - CY -           Dr
PL- Profit before MI         -          Cr
BS- BS Clearing A/c                     Cr
PL - PL Clearing A/c                    Dr
when u run PCC, system ll pick these two items *BS - Profit and loss - CY and BS- BS Clearing A/c. so obviously, posting cannot be done.
Please tell me if u still not understand
Thanks and Regards,
G Vinod

Consolidation group change without ownership change

Hi All,
I require help in resolving this particular issue.
I have a company called 1000 which is having a subsidiary called 5010. both of the fall under the same consolidiation group called CG1.
Now I have run the First consolidation as of March 2009 and carry forwarded the balances in 2009.
Now 5010 has invested in 6 more companies and has become a holding company to them.
Now I thought of two options
1. To just create these 6 companies and enter the investment details for these companies and run the COI.
2. To create a new consolidation group called CG2. Put the 5010 company along with its 6 newly acquired subsidiaries under this consoldation group.
I ma exercising the option 2 by creating a new consolidation group as it will easy to get the reports at CG2 level.
As you can observe there has been no transfer of investment happening here. How do i take care of such a situation.
I read the posts regarding the Consolidation group changes but all posts were dealing with change in ownership happening. In my case there is no change in ownership as 1000 still continues to be the holding company. But only difference is that earlier 5010 was existing as a end node but now It has to have a consolidation group of its own where in it will have the holding company 5010 along with its 6 subsidiaries.
Pl give me a solution.
Thanks in advance.
Shivaprasad

facts of the scenario
1. Did first consolidation in period 012.2008
2. There is a company 5510 which belongs to CG1 as of first consolidation which was in period 012.2008
3. 5510 has invested in 6 new companies in period 003.2009
4. I want to create a new consolidation group CG2 and put the existing company 5510 along with 6 new companies under this group (client requirement)
5. I created a new consolidation group CG2 and assigned the company 5510 to this group along with 6 new companies
6. In consolidation group CG1 mentioned the divesture period as 003.2009 (DABP ticked) for 5510 company
7. in Consolidation group CG2 mentioned the First consolidation period as 003.2009 (FCEP unticked) against 5510 company
8. The figures are not accurate at the CG2 group level.
Should I be doing anything else apart from the above steps.
Will appreciate a fast reply as it is stopping the go-live
Thanks in advance
Shivaprasad

BCS - Divestiture consolidation group change

Is there a FM module that would tell me when a company was divested and what the new consolidation group would be?
I'm not a BCS consultant.

There may not be a FM for this.
When you define the consolidation units and consolidation group in BCS in the context of consolidating investments and eliminating inter comoany diviidends.
Even there, you may not get the date on which the disinvesment took place. Consolidation of investments will be carried on a "given day" on which the Balance sheet and BS are drawn.
Ravi Thothadri

SEM BCS - Error in Consolidation Area

Dear Experts,
When i save my consolidation area, there is an error message.
it is "Syntax error in GP_ERR_UCDTYPE, row 8.880".
The Diagnosis said "Component called REFYEAR already exists".
I can not found "REFYEAR" in my system.
I am using info cube 0BCS_C11.
Please help....
Thanks in advance.

Hello
Though I am not an expert in this area I have found the following information with a similar problem in another customer that maybe useful:
"On the basis of your problem description it seems that you assigned in
the data basis maintenance the `SEM-BCS info-object catalogue` for
characteristics and key figures to the two info-object catalogues (on
the first tab strip of data basis maintenance). This makes the trouble.
Please read the F1 help carefully and if you need an extra info-object
catalogue, then please create one. Please note that the SEM-BCS standard
info-object catalogues are NOT appropriate for this purpose.
F1 help:
"InfoObject Catalog for Characteristics
InfoObject catalog of the SAP Business Information Warehouse to include
additional characteristics.
Use
You use this field as follows:
In a data basis, the InfoObject catalog contains the quantity of
additional fields that can be selected on the Additional Financial Data
tab page for investments and equity.
In a source data basis, the InfoObject catalog portrays the definition
of an external field catalog, which can be used in a method of the
category Flexible Upload, if a data basis was allocated to the source
data basis."
In order to remove the info-object catalogs you can use the transaction
UCWB01.
Hope it helps .
Regards
Javier

Standardizing entries:Consolidation Group Change

Hi,
We have document type of posting level 12, to reverse the document type of posting level 10 (standardizing entries) when consolidation unit change the group or leaves the group.
When group change task is executed, the balance becomes zero.
However, when balance carryforward is executed, the Document type of posting level 12 is not carried forward to next year. This results in balance appearing in the accounts where postings were madeat posting level 10 in the last year.
Please advise.
Regards,
UR

Can you confirm you see the PL10 entries if you run a list of totals records, standard reporting logic, and the consolidation group where the entity previously existed?
If you have PL10 balance sheet activity for 00 - 03/2007 and divest in 04/2007, the system books the PL12 in 04 to write down these balances. In the "Standard" reporting logic, the system will look for all 00, 01, and 10's for company XYZ between 00/2007 and 04/2007 --> those are the dates when the company was a member of the consolidation group.
When you do a BCF to 2008, the PL12 should not carry forward. When reporting on 01/2008, for example, "Standard" logic will see that company XYZ was divested in 04/2007 and will look for any postings related to that company. The PL12's are only needed during the year in which the company was divested.
Note that you can keep feeding balances to the company and the system will keep booking intercompany eliminations, etc. But as long as you have the master data and AFD set correctly, that company should not appear in the consolidated reports.
- Chris

Consolidation Group Changes

Dear Team,
Through support I can resolve Issues ASAP, Once again Thanks a lot.
I need Information, in my client Cons Unit Hierarchy Structure as under:
For Example:
We have the following Structure
Cons Group Q1 ---> Cons Unit A, B
Cons Group Q2 --> Cons Unit C, F
Cons Group Q3 --> Cons unit D and Cons Unit E
In current Period Cons unit E removed from Cons Group Q3 and added in Cons Group Q2 and also need not maintain Cons Group Q3, and assign Cons Unit D to Cons Group Q1
Expected Hierarchy:
Cons Group Q1 ---> Cons Unit A, B and D
Cons Group Q2 ---> Cons Unit C, F and E
I suggest to run Task Cons Group Change, and there is no COI in my client. Give me suggestion what procedure I have to follow for this either Acquisition, Divestiture for the above.
Thanks & Regards
madhu

To move cons unit E from Group Q3 to Cons group Q2, add E to cons group Q2 without removing it from Q3. Then in the cons group master data for cons group Q3 indicate the period of divestiture for cons unit E. For the cons group Q2 master data should automatically include cons unit E with period of first consolidation per the period when it was added.

SEM BCS - Step for Load from Datastream

Hi,
What are steps to configuration "Load from DataStream".
What kind of infocube that i should use?
Thanks in advance.

Hi,
There are rather lot threads reg the issue.
For example:
Re: BCS configuration
Re: How is data loaded into the BCS cubes?
Re: Which info object should be used for Financial statement line (BPS and BCS)
Re: SEM-BCS: Load from data stream
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SEM-BCS Preparation for Consolidation Group Changes

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