Sender Logical system lost in BPM

Hi, we have the next scenario:
3 Sender Business Systems(file)->BPM->R/3System(IDOC).
We want that the inbound idocs arrive to R/3 with their corresponding Sender Logical System.
The problem is that the idocs arrive with the Logical system of BPM. I can do a header mapping, but the idocs arrive with one static Logical system, I've lost the information about the original sender logical systems.
What are my alternatives ?.
1- Make 3 'little' BPMs after the general BPM ?.
2- 'Tri-peat' the general BPM?
Thanks,
Francisco

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Hi,
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Hi Bujji,
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>>>it's very weird ....sender server should be like point to our BPM isn't?
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In the runtime cache > services an entry appears for " ... Logical System | AVTItalia | ACYAVTFBC1...".
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