Setting up rman backups - am I missing something?

I have inherited an oracle 10g database on Windows and I need to set up RMAN backups. I am going through the steps and I think I am still missing something.
I am trying to put the database in archivelog mode and it gives me this error:
ORA-01126: database must be mounted in this instance and not open in any instance
So I try to mount the database (alter database mount;) and it says:
ORA-01100: database already mounted
So I figure someone else has it open so I shut it down (shutdown immediate), which works fine, but when I try to restart it (startup mount;) it tells me:
ORA-24324: service handle not initialized
ORA-01041: internal error. hostdef extension doesn't exist
So I try to log into a new session and it tells me:
ORA-12514: TNS:listener does not currently know of service requested in connect descriptor
The only way I can find to restart it is to restart the service OracleServiceDATABASENAME. When it is restarted, it lets me log in, but then I get the same errors as above when I try to mount the database or put it in archivelog mode.
Please let me know what I am missing.
Thanks!

Over Windows, database service has a vital role in the management of the database. Without it being started, you can't do anything with oracle db. Fro your error,
>
ORA-24324:
service handle not initialized
Cause:     An attempt was made to use an improper service context handle.
Action:     Verify that the service context handle has all the parameters initialized prior to this call.>
It may be possible that you have used an inappropriate service name to start teh database. The other error comes up when the datbase is either just started or is unaware about teh name being requested by teh client to get connected, due to wrong name being chosen or an unknown name being chosen.
All this basically means that you may have either done typos or tried to start some service which was never there. The best way is to set Oracle sid using
set oracle_sid=<your sid>And then do what ever you want to.
HTH
Aman....

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    knowledgespring      
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    Handle:      knowledgespring
    Status Level:      Newbie (10)
    Registered:      Dec 26, 2007
    Total Posts:      243
    Total Questions:      77 (75 unresolved)
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