*SOLVED* Boot from ubs-memorystick

Hi out there, hope someone can help me with this problem. I have made a regular dos-boot-disc on a usb memorystick, have tried 2 different, sandisc and a noname.
I have a pt880 motherboard and when i press F11 during bootup i've got the bootmenu and the stick is shown there. I choose it, but after all bios checks it says something like "search for boot records on usb bla bla bla". And there it hangs, the whole computer hangup. :(
Anyone got an idea what i have missed? I mean if the bootdisc is wrong done (but its not) it should say it cant find any boot record of boot files.
 ???

you might find this useful - it is good
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=57971.0
what happened to Danny? he solved my first problem.

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    Last edited by Trilby (2014-06-22 23:41:36)

  • [Solved] Grub errors 18 and 22 when booting from SSD

    Hello community,
    recently I purchased an SSD drive and am now having trouble doing an Arch install on it. Before that a 2TB HDD was in use. After building in the SSD I partitioned it (msdos partition table) creating partitions for swap, / and /home. Then I copied the files from the old /home partition on the freshly created one and installed Arch on the new / partition. Here's the partition setup:
    $ LANG=C sudo fdisk -l
    Disk /dev/sda: 2000.4 GB, 2000398934016 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243201 cylinders, total 3907029168 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x0003a234
    Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
    /dev/sda1 2048 3907028991 1953513472 5 Extended
    /dev/sda5 16065 4192964 2088450 82 Linux swap / Solaris
    /dev/sda6 4196352 65720319 30761984 83 Linux # old /
    /dev/sda7 65722368 577720319 255998976 83 Linux # old /home
    /dev/sda8 577722368 3907028991 1664653312 83 Linux
    Disk /dev/sdb: 128.0 GB, 128035676160 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 15566 cylinders, total 250069680 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x000a9841
    Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
    /dev/sdb1 51863552 241582079 94859264 83 Linux # new /home
    /dev/sdb2 241582080 250068991 4243456 82 Linux swap / Solaris
    /dev/sdb3 2048 51863551 25930752 83 Linux # new /
    Partition table entries are not in disk order
    The problem is: booting from the SSD fails as follows: On the first try to select some Grub entry I get an error 22 "No such partition.". On any further try I get error 18 "Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by bios".
    What works is  to boot up the new system from the Grub residing on the HDD. So the problem is just the new Grub install in the SSD's MBR. Also it's not a thing of Grub's configuration, since copying the working menu.lst from the HDD install and reinstalling grub via grub-install /dev/sdb gives the correct Grub entries but selecting them results in the same errors.
    So currently I'm booting from the HDD and selecting the boot entry for the freshly installed SSD system there, which works fine. But of course I'd like the SSD to be able to boot without "help" on the part of the HDD.
    I tried to activate AHCI in the Bios but it didn't make any difference. The SSD is a Crucial M4 128GB.
    Thanks for any hints,
    PhotonX
    Last edited by PhotonX (2012-07-26 06:04:53)

    I created a /boot partition now:
    $ LANG=C sudo fdisk -l
    Disk /dev/sdb: 128.0 GB, 128035676160 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 15566 cylinders, total 250069680 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x000a9841
    Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
    /dev/sdb1 51863552 241582079 94859264 83 Linux # /home
    /dev/sdb2 241582080 249831423 4124672 82 Linux swap / Solaris
    /dev/sdb3 2048 51863551 25930752 83 Linux # /
    /dev/sdb4 * 249831424 250068991 118784 83 Linux # /boot
    Partition table entries are not in disk order
    Disk /dev/sda: 2000.4 GB, 2000398934016 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 243201 cylinders, total 3907029168 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x0003a234
    Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
    /dev/sda1 2048 3907028991 1953513472 5 Extended
    /dev/sda5 16065 4192964 2088450 82 Linux swap / Solaris
    /dev/sda6 4196352 65720319 30761984 83 Linux
    /dev/sda7 65722368 577720319 255998976 83 Linux
    /dev/sda8 577722368 3907028991 1664653312 83 Linux
    Then installed Grub on this partition: "grub-install /dev/sdb4". Then placed the SSD on the first position in the Bios, booted but got the same errors in Grub. So it doesn't matter where exactly Grub is installed, if it's somewhere on the SSD, it fails...
    edit: Concerning using UUIDs: I couldn't find any howto regarding Grub (legacy) configuration with UUID's. Could you point me to some example config?
    edit2: I now put the SSD on the first place in the boot list and started PartedMagic. But fdisk still recognizes the SSD as sdb and the HDD as sda. I think, the sdX identifier can be changed only by plugging the SSD in the first SATA port and the HDD in the second (while now it is the other way around).
    edit3: I tried to install Grub from the HDD installation on the SSD (executed "grub-install /dev/sdb4" from the HDD system) and found out that, though I created a /boot partition on the SSD, the Grub files installed directly on /dev/sdb are used. So I tried to install Grub from the HDD system onto /dev/sdb (executed "grub-install /dev/sdb" from the HDD system) and got error 22 even before Grub's boot list was shown. But maybe it's really a bad idea to install Grub on another drive than the system it belongs to is located.
    Last edited by PhotonX (2012-05-18 21:54:56)

  • [SOLVED]Hanging after booting from installation media

    Yesterday I booted from a rw-DVD got to the terminal and could execute commands, connect to the internet and use elink etc no problem. I didn't go through with installation as I wanted to read up more on partitioning my drives for dual booting before actually doing so.
    Trying the same thing today, and it hangs soon after I boot, regardless of whether I do anything. Printing the following:
    nouveau E[ DRM] failed to idle channel 0xcccc0000 [DRM]
    pci_pm_runtime_suspend(): nouveau_pmops_runtime_suspend+0x0/0xf0 [nouveau] returns -16
    INFO: rcu_preempt detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: { 6} (detected by 1, t=18002 jiffiess, g=974, c=973, q=604)
    This is without me typing anything. If I try to execute a command quickly after booting it sometimes works, but after a couple of minutes it will complain of a soft lockup.
    I've tried burning another disk, and using a USB installation media, but the same thing happens. Any thoughts?
    Edit: Trying to run it on a laptop with i7-4700MQ, 16GB ram, and Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M
    Second Edit: Booted with nomodeset, which worked and allowed me to install. Just trying to sort out the sodding boot loaders now...
    Last edited by glfharris (2014-07-11 22:42:31)

    Welcome to the forum.
    First of all, you should get in the habit of using [ code ] tags when posting code, not [ quote ] tags (well, unless you want to apply some styling to it, like bold, italic, etc).
    This is wrong:
    # umount /dev/sdc
    This is correct:
    # umount /dev/sdc1
    You were trying to unmount the drive as a whole, which obviously isn't mounted, instead of the first (and probably only) partition. Had you followed the advice from the note to use blkid and check if it's mounted, this wouldn't have happened. But the fact that a DVD produced that error puzzles me... I have no experience with UEFI, but I think you need to press F10, F11, or something like that, to able able to get to a UEFI boot menu, and choose the optical unit as source.
    I hope you used a BitTorrent client when downloading the ISO, and not some direct link (which are prone to CRC errors). If you used a direct link, then check the MD5 and make sure that it matches the one from the Download page. For future reference, torrents are checked while they're being downloaded.

  • [SOLVED] UEFI system booting from MBR partition table and GRUB legacy

    I'm trying to understand once and for all the process by which Arch can be booted from a system with UEFI firmware and an MBR partition table. Some of the information on the wiki seems conflictual / non-nonsensical at times. Apologies in advance if this has been answered time and time again, but I did search around and all I found was fixes to get Arch to boot rather than comprehensive explanations of the boot process.
    Now, the way I would imagine it works is that it's just completely identical to the way it would work with a BIOS firmware. The UEFI firmware detects an MBR partitioning scheme (or is configured to know it's an MBR partitioning scheme), activates some "legacy" mode and executes the MBR boot code, just like a BIOS firmware would.
    The wiki however, says different. From the Macbook article: "Do not install GRUB onto /dev/sda !!! Doing so is likely to lead to an unstable post-environment."?
    So what is there in the MBR boot sector? Nothing?
    How does the firmware know what to boot if there's no 0xEF BIOS boot partition and no Grub stage 1 in the MBR boot sector?
    Also, how does installing Grub stage 1 to a partition work? Does it have to be at the beginning of the partition? Wouldn't that overwrite some existing data?
    I'm especially puzzled since many guides to installing Vista on a macbook recommend simply formatting as MBR, and installing as normal, which I suppose entails having the Windows installation process write its boot code to the MBR, ie the equivalent of installing grub stage 1 to /dev/sda rather than to the /boot partition, as the Macbook article suggests.
    Any input is appreciated.
    P.S. I realize it's probably simpler, if I just want to dual boot Windows and Arch, to install Windows 7 in UEFI-GPT mode, let it create the EFI System Partition, and then install GRUB 2 to that partition, but I'm still curious about the UEFI-MBR boot process.
    Last edited by padavoine (2012-06-06 09:35:10)

    padavoine wrote:
    CSM in UEFI firmwares do the exact same job as normal BIOS firmware.
    So it's something specific to the Mac that it's able to boot from a partition's VBR while ignoring the MBR?
    The reason that warning is given is because grub-legacy modifies more than just the MBR boot code region.  It can overwrite some parts of GPT header.
    Not true, the instruction is given in the context of an MBR format, not in the context of a GPT format, so there's nothing to overwrite and Stage 1.5 should be safely embeddable in the post-MBR gap.
    In BIOS boot (normal case in non-UEFI firmwares or CSM in UEFI firmwares) does not read the partitition table (atleast it is supposed to be dumb in this regard), it simply launches whatever boot code exists in the 1st 440-byte of the MBR region.
    So again, you're saying it's specific to the Mac UEFI that it lets you choose a partition whose VBR to load, regardless of what's in the MBR?
    I haven't used Macs so I can't comment on Mac firmware behaviour. But normal BIOS firmwares (legacy and CSM) launch only the MBR boot code and not the partition boot code. We need some chainload capable boot manager in the MBR to launch the partition VBR.
    grub-legacy does not know anything about GPT. So when you install grub-legacy to /dev/sda, it install the MBR boot code (stage1) and stage 1.5 code to the (supposed) post MBR gap. Since there is no actual post MBR gap in GPT (which has been taken over by the header and partition table), grub-legacy does not check for GPT and it assumes the post MBR gap actually exists which is invalid in case of GPT. grub-legacy embeds the stage 1.5 code in GPT header and table region (which grub assumes to be unused post MBR gap) and thus corrupts it.
    0xEF is the MBR type code for UEFISYS partition. grub stage 1 (used in grub-legacy, not in grub2) is the 440-byte boot code stored in MBR for use in BIOS boot.
    That's precisely my point: with neither proper executable code in the MBR (since grub was installed to a partition, not to the MBR) nor a UEFI system partition, what does the firmware default to, and how does it know what partition to boot from?
    In that case it might fallback to UEFI Shell (if it exists)  or give an error similar to the case where BIOS does not find any bootable code in 440-byte MBR region.
    So even with bootcamp/CSM, the disk also needs to be MBR partitioned. So Macs use something called "Hybrid GPT/MBR" ( http://rodsbooks.com/gdisk/hybrid.html ) where the MBR table is synced to match the first 3 partitions in the GPT table.
    I know what Bootcamp does, and that's not what I was referring to. I was referring to standalone Vista installs. I wasn't puzzled at the fact that they were using MBR, I was puzzled at the fact that contrary to the recommendations for the standalone Arch install on the wiki (with MBR partitioning, not GPT), they didn't do anything to try and prevent Windows from writing to the MBR.
    You can't prevent Windows from overwriting the MBR region. You have to re-install the bootloader (grub2/syslinux etc.) after installing Windows. That is the reason why it is recommended to install Windows first and linux later.
    Thats not true. I actually find it is much easier to install Windows UEFI-GPT using USB rather than a DVD.
    I haven't done it since the only UEFI system I own has no DVD drive, but I was under the impression that it was simply a matter of choosing DVD UEFI boot in the firmware's boot menu.
    format the USB as FAT32 and extract the iso to it. That it.
    No, thats not it, precisely, it doesn't work out of the box with a standard Windows install USB, you need to fiddle around:
    2.3 Extract bootmgfw.efi from [WINDOWS_x86_64_ISO]/sources/install.wim => [INSTALL.WIM]/1/Windows/Boot/EFI/bootmgfw.efi (using 7-zip aka p7zip for both the files), or copy it from C:\Windows\Boot\EFI\bootmgfw.efi from a working Windows x86_64 installation.
    2.4 Copy the extracted bootmgfw.efi file to [MOUNTPOINT]/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi .
    Most of the Windows isos already have /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI file, so no need to extract the bootmgfw.efi file.
    There is no difference between in BIOS booting in UEFI firmwares and BIOS booting with legacy firmware.
    There has to be a difference, at least in the Mac firmware (sorry, I keep switching), since legacy firmware, AFAIK, cannot chainload a bootloader in a partition's VBR without there being some sort of "stage1" code in the MBR.
    No idea about Mac EFI. Apple made a spagetti out of UEFI Spec. To actually understand how Mac firmwares work, read the blog posts by Matthew Garrett of Redhat, about his efforts in getting Fedora to boot in Macs.

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