SOLVED: Oracle Forms Object Groups

Hi,
I have an object group on one main form. this object group has dozens of object group children. I've copied and subclassed the object group to my dependent forms.
Now i add a object (a parameter for instance) to the main form object group... but the dependent forms object group does not add the new object and i have to subclass it manually... what's wrong?
solved sorry!
Regards
Ricardo
Edited by: user12015527 on 5/Jan/2010 10:36
Edited by: user12015527 on 5/Jan/2010 10:37

Hi All,
Any update on it?
Thanks
-POPS

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Hello Oracle..
U guys want to start a new thread on this issue..
I think the problem is not only of a separate 6i runtime..(of course this is a big issue to all of us who ask our customers to buy softwares for those applications which up to now are running perfectly fine..)
The forms which are running fine in client/server when deployed on web(9ias) sometimes behaves so abruptly that justifying this to a non-dev 6i developer is a mountainous task...
We even heard from our management that u guys are not serious enough due to these issues getting repeated..
Could u please justify whether buying 9ias and applying patches after patches is a sign of a very good product..
Every time we face a problem u guys are ready with a patch(and that's too after much of our effort was wasted in finding out where the problem is)..
I am a die hard fan of oracle but now i am seriously considering what u guys are planning( Just keep on marketing such products or keep well-wishers like us with u forever)...
Hope the language in this didn't hurt anyone.
This is not only my feeling but almost all of colleagues are saying this.
Waiting for a positive response
Best Regards

Thanks a Lot Mr. Grant for addressing the queries by taking time from your busy schedule...
1)"Separate runtime" .... I have seen that thread from Mr. Louis but the question remains that is seperate runtime of forms6i available for UNIX platform. This question is still unanswered.
2)"The forms which are running fine in client/server when deployed on web(9ias) sometimes behaves so abruptly" .... There are many problems which are already posted there but the solution given by oracle for some of those problems doesnot work..For e.g. For running reports on unix thru form an error REP-3000 is coming after searching metalink we found that we have to open an X-window session for removing that error ...Worked fine for sometime and then after installing Patch 9 for running Upload utility it stops running reports.....
Sometimes the layout which is perfectly fine in web is completely different in web..
Anyway these are the few problems which we faces ...
3)"We even heard from our management that u guys are not serious enough due to these issues getting repeated" - ...When such type of problems came we searches metalink, forums etc and then tell or managers that this solution will work(if we found some there) and after going for that we found that either it doesn't work or if it work's it creates problems in some other places...Now i think u can imagine what will be our situation in such senario ...
4)"buying 9ias and applying patches after patches is a sign of a very good product" ...Please don't compare urself with Microsoft....They might be leading
Software Giants but Oracle is Oracle and we all well wishers doesn't want it to be giving products like microsoft..What i mean by saying this is that in every product there are bug fixes but so many bugs and Lots of patches doesn't it shows that the product was not made considering all the possibilities and it was made in a hurry without considering the aftereffects ....
5)" Every time we face a problem u guys are ready with a patch" ....Response time is fast no doubt but what about the time and faith which is lost of all the oracle fans..
7)... One last thing i think this is not only the frustation ..which prompts us to write these things.....the main thing is the faith we have in oracle...
After using 6i and 9ias many guys are saying that they will never use or recommend this technology in the future and my personal feeling is that i didn't want oracle to lose the battle so early due to such issues..
Once again thanks alot and please consider this for improving 9isa..
we all are here to support you...
Very keen to see ur response
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are you certain, 100% positive, and absolutely sure you have a bean item with above implementation class in your form? I'd double check that...
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