Source Groups & IP Logging

Our server administrators would like to start logging connections to the web servers and tried to do so but keep seeing the IP addresses of the load balancers in their logs.
We are using source groups on the CSSes since they are sitting behind a set of firewalls; and, we found that the servers would be blocked when removing the source groupings. I have attached a rough diagram of how we are configured.
How do we transmit the remote clients' IP address to the web servers?

We were able to successfully connect to the VIP from the Internet with the removal of source groups and pointing the servers to the CSS as the def gateway.
We ran into an issue where the clients on the LAN would connect to the VIP and then get no response back. I believe this to be due to the fact we are crossing the firewall on a higher security interface and trying to come back over on a lower security interface. The source of the IP from the LAN is NATed to an address that is on the local network for the CSS, therefore the servers respond back directly to our NAT address instead of going to the CSS and back out, as in the case of the Internet connection.
Keep in mind that we are one-arming this configuration and using a firewall sandwich, as indicated in the diagram. The firewalls have their higher security interfaces point back toward the LAN.
Would I still need to bridge? Do you have an example I may look at to verify it would work? (We would like to be able to track IP addresses on the servers.)

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    You can create as many services that share an ip range (eg. a /24 subnet range). But the trouble starts when you add them into source groups. You can not add them into a source group NOR you can add them under different source groups as well.
    You mentioned that you can use single ip adress instead of range for the services...but it is not true as you will be stuck when you add them into source groups.
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