Space above unordered list - can't get rid of it

Does anyone know how to get rid of the space that is added above my text every time I make it an ul? I have set padding and space above to "0", but no luck. Any help?
The footer is the problem:
http://www.creativestormdesign.com/eSafe/index.html
The working css file link is:
http://www.creativestormdesign.com/eSafe/eSafe.css
Note attachments:
view 1 is in Dreamweaver
View 2 is Safari view

The extra space you are seeing above your ul is margin-top.
Here is what I did to come closer to what I think you are aiming for:
function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}
#footer A {
TEXT-ALIGN: center;
/* PADDING-BOTTOM: 8px;
*/ BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffa000;
MARGIN-TOP: 0px;
FONT-FAMILY: "Trebuchet MS";
COLOR: #ffffff;
FONT-SIZE: 12px;
           line-height: 30px;
/* PADDING-TOP: 8px
#footer ul {
margin-top: 0;
I commented out (removed) the padding that you had applied to the a elements in your footer div, both padding-bottom and padding-top.
I added a line-height for that same rule that matched the height of your footer div (line-height: 30px;)
Then I gave a margin-top of 0 for any ul that shows up inside the footer div.
Should work for you; worked for me.
Beth

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            I have a couple questions about your product.  Its hard to get the straight facts regarding this supplement on the internet but the fact that you list your competitors directly on your site gives you credit in my mind.<br />
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            First I see the amount of human growth hormone in your oral spray per dose but I'm wondering how that would compare to the amount in a prescription injectable dose?<br />
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          <p align="left" class="bodytext style8">First I see the amount of human growth hormone in your product per dose but I'm wondering how that would compare to the amount in a prescription injectable dose?</p>
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          <p align="left" class="style9">And finally,  myself and 4 or 5 of my gym friends are looking at this oral spray to restore our energy and help with our gains so I'm looking at ordering between 12 and 18 bottles at once.  Is there a better deal for buying in bulk?</p>
          <p align="left" class="bodytext"><em>We have a lot of body builders using our product. They all use the Advanced formula. You can buy it online, a dozen or two at a time, at the wholesale dealer price of $41.66 per bottle ($499/dozen).</em></p>
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          <p align="left" class="bodytext"><em>1st HGH is an &quot;affiliate.&quot; That's an agent (sales rep) that uses our product to make their own sales and collect a commission. Somewhat like a franchisee. Nothing to be concerned about.</em></p>
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