Start-up issues - system folder

Hey gang, I've got a bondi blue 233mhz G3 iMac. It has 160 mg of ram if I remember right (has 128mb chip in slot). Anyways, I got a hard drive from the guts of another imac we found... in a dumpster, of all places. The motherboard was fried on that one, so I swiped the HD. Seems good. I booted off OS 9.2.1 cd, and installed it on to the HD, after initializing it to clean it off. I restarted, and the thing doesn't see the system folder/hard drive! Yet when I boot off the CD, the HD shows up plain as day. I remembered to select it in the start-up disk extension, but it only boots off the CD.
Another question: the HD doesn't specify what the PIN settings on it are. Any suggestions? I tried looking it up, but can't find 'em. I believe its a Infineon, judging what I see on it. Thanks!

Jared Lorenz...
A missing Master configuration needs confirmation somehow before proceding. Although it is at the top of the list of suspects, there is other things to consider.
— A HD that wasn't partitioned <8GB (7.8GB or slightly less) IF the capacity exceeds 8GB. Of course, any bootable Mac OS must reside on that partition. See this related link
— Somehow an unblessed System Folder may have been installed. Just look at the System Folder for the 2 tone blue, 2 faced "Mac OS" icon. See this related link.
So far these 2 come into mind.
...Ron
Message was edited by: Ron JACKLE
Perhaps this >--> http://www.us.design-reuse.com/news/news8626.html may answer the Infineion question. Hitachi GST?

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when i try to start up my SAP (ABAP+JAVA) system, server processes fail to start. Below is the trace file.
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trc file: "D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\work\dev_server1", trc level: 1, release: "700"
node name   : ID3944951
pid         : 7752
system name : P1D
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arguments   :
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[Thr 7756] Wed May 05 13:27:07 2010
[Thr 7756] *** WARNING => INFO: Unknown property [instance.box.number=P1DDVEBMGS00blrkec115278d] [jstartxx.c   841]
[Thr 7756] *** WARNING => INFO: Unknown property [instance.en.host=blrkec115278d] [jstartxx.c   841]
[Thr 7756] *** WARNING => INFO: Unknown property [instance.en.port=3201] [jstartxx.c   841]
[Thr 7756] *** WARNING => INFO: Unknown property [instance.system.id=0] [jstartxx.c   841]
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-> ms host    : blrkec115278d
-> ms port    : 3901
-> OS libs    : D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\j2ee\os_libs
-> Admin URL :
-> run mode   : NORMAL
-> run action : NONE
-> enabled    : yes
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-> files [00] :
-> D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\j2ee\cluster\instance.properties
Instance properties
-> ms host    : blrkec115278d
-> ms port    : 3901
-> os libs    : D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\j2ee\os_libs
-> admin URL :
-> run mode   : NORMAL
-> run action : NONE
-> enabled    : yes
Bootstrap nodes
-> [00] bootstrap            : D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\j2ee\cluster\instance.properties
-> [01] bootstrap_ID3944900 :
-> D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\j2ee\cluster\instance.properties
-> [02] bootstrap_ID3944950 :
-> D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\j2ee\cluster\instance.properties
-> [03] bootstrap_ID3944951 :
-> D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\j2ee\cluster\instance.properties
Worker nodes
-> [00] ID3944900            : D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\j2ee\cluster\instance.properties
-> [01] ID3944950            : D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\j2ee\cluster\instance.properties
-> [02] ID3944951            : D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\j2ee\cluster\instance.properties
[Thr 7756] JLaunchRequestQueueInit: create named pipe for ipc [Thr 7756] JLaunchRequestQueueInit: create pipe listener thread [Thr 7776] WaitSyncSemThread: Thread 7776 started as semaphore monitor thread.
[Thr 7764] JLaunchRequestFunc: Thread 7764 started as listener thread for np messages.
[Thr 7756] NiInit3: NI already initialized; param 'maxHandles' ignored (1;202) [Thr 7756] CPIC (version=700.2005.12.02)
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[Thr 7756] [Node: server1] java home is set by profile parameter Java Home: C:\j2sdk1.4.2_21 [Thr 7756] JStartupICheckFrameworkPackage: can't find framework package D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\exe\jvmx.jar
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-> node name          : server1
-> node type          : server
-> node execute       : yes
-> jlaunch parameters :
-> java path          : C:\j2sdk1.4.2_21
-> java parameters    : -Djava.security.policy=./java.policy -Djava.security.egd=file:/dev/urandom -Dorg.omg.CORBA.ORBClass=com.sap.engine.system.ORBProxy -Dorg.omg.CORBA.ORBSingletonClass=com.sap.engine.system.ORBSingletonProxy -Djavax.rmi.CORBA.PortableRemoteObjectClass=com.sap.engine.system.PortableRemoteObjectProxy -Dorg.xml.sax.driver=com.sap.engine.lib.xml.parser.SAXParser -verbose:gc -Djco.jarm=1 -XX:PermSize=256m -XX:MaxPermSize=256m -XX:NewSize=160m -XX:MaxNewSize=160m -XX:SurvivorRatio=2 -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:PrintGCTimeStamps -XX:UseTLAB -XX:SoftRefLRUPolicyMSPerMB=1 -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -Djava.awt.headless=true -XX:+UseParNewGC
-> java vm version    : 1.4.2_21-b03
-> java vm vendor     : Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (Sun Microsystems Inc.)
-> java vm type       : server
-> java vm cpu        : x86
-> heap size          : 1024M
-> init heap size     : 1024M
-> root path          : D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\j2ee\cluster\server1
-> class path         : .\bin\boot\boot.jar;.\bin\boot\jaas.jar;.\bin\system\bytecode.jar;.
-> OS libs path       : D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\j2ee\os_libs
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-> framework class    : com.sap.bc.proj.jstartup.JStartupFramework
-> registr. class     : com.sap.bc.proj.jstartup.JStartupNatives
-> framework path     : D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\exe\jstartup.jar;D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\exe\jvmx.jar
-> shutdown class     : com.sap.engine.boot.Start
-> parameters         :
-> debuggable         : no
-> debug mode         : no
-> debug port         : 50026
-> shutdown timeout   : 120000
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-> stack   : 262144 Bytes
-> arg[ 0]: exit
-> arg[ 1]: abort
-> arg[ 2]: vfprintf
-> arg[ 3]: -Djava.security.policy=./java.policy
-> arg[ 4]: -Djava.security.egd=file:/dev/urandom
-> arg[ 5]: -Dorg.omg.CORBA.ORBClass=com.sap.engine.system.ORBProxy
-> arg[ 6]:
-> -Dorg.omg.CORBA.ORBSingletonClass=com.sap.engine.system.ORBSingletonP
-> roxy arg[ 7]:
-> -Djavax.rmi.CORBA.PortableRemoteObjectClass=com.sap.engine.system.Por
-> tableRemoteObjectProxy arg[ 8]:
-> -Dorg.xml.sax.driver=com.sap.engine.lib.xml.parser.SAXParser
-> arg[ 9]: -verbose:gc
-> arg[ 10]: -Djco.jarm=1
-> arg[ 11]: -XX:PermSize=256m
-> arg[ 12]: -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
-> arg[ 13]: -XX:NewSize=160m
-> arg[ 14]: -XX:MaxNewSize=160m
-> arg[ 15]: -XX:SurvivorRatio=2
-> arg[ 16]: -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90
-> arg[ 17]: -XX:+PrintGCTimeStamps
-> arg[ 18]: -XX:+UseTLAB
-> arg[ 19]: -XX:SoftRefLRUPolicyMSPerMB=1 arg[ 20]:
-> -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false arg[ 21]: -Djava.awt.headless=true arg[
-> 22]: -XX:+UseParNewGC arg[ 23]:
-> -Dsys.global.dir=D:\usr\sap\P1D\SYS\global
-> arg[ 24]: -Dapplication.home=D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\exe
-> arg[ 25]: -Djava.class.path=D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\exe\jstartup.jar;D:\usr\sap\P1D\DVEBMGS00\exe\jvmx.jar;.\bin\boot\boot.jar;.\bin\boot\jaas.jar;.\bin\system\bytecode.jar;.
-> arg[ 26]:
-> -Djava.library.path=C:\j2sdk1.4.2_21\jre\bin\server;C:\j2sdk1.4.2_21\
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-> \oracle\product\10.2.0\db_1\bin;C:\SYSROOT\system32;C:\SYSROOT;C:\SYS
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-> Files\CA\SharedComponents\ThirdParty\;C:\Program
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-> arg[ 29]: -Xms1024M
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-> arg[ 31]: -Djstartup.mode=JCONTROL
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-> arg[ 34]: -Djstartup.whoami=server
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-> arg[ 37]: -DSAPSTART=1
-> arg[ 38]: -DCONNECT_PORT=1243
-> arg[ 39]: -DSAPSYSTEM=00
-> arg[ 40]: -DSAPSYSTEMNAME=P1D
-> arg[ 41]: -DSAPMYNAME=blrkec115278d_P1D_00 arg[ 42]:
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-> arg[ 46]: -DSAPSYSTEM=00 arg[ 47]: -DSAPSYSTEMNAME=P1D arg[ 48]:
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JHVM_BuildArgumentList: main method arguments of node [server1]
[Thr 7872] Wed May 05 13:27:08 2010
[Thr 7872] JHVM_RegisterNatives: registering methods in com.sap.bc.krn.perf.PerfTimes
[Thr 7872] Wed May 05 13:27:09 2010
[Thr 7872] JHVM_RegisterNatives: registering methods in com.sap.bc.proj.jstartup.JStartupFramework
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Wed May 05 13:27:13 2010
5.640: [ParNew 81920K->5980K(1007616K), 0.0258446 secs]
Wed May 05 13:27:17 2010
9.773: [ParNew 87893K->13835K(1007616K), 0.0529425 secs]
Wed May 05 13:27:21 2010
13.293: [ParNew 95755K->17179K(1007616K), 0.0572638 secs]
Wed May 05 13:27:23 2010
15.634: [ParNew 99099K->17958K(1007616K), 0.0419008 secs]
[Thr 6392] Wed May 05 13:27:26 2010
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[Thr 6392] Wed May 05 13:27:29 2010
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[Thr 7804] Wed May 05 13:27:33 2010
[Thr 7804] JLaunchIExitJava: exit hook is called (rc = -11113) [Thr 7804] **********************************************************************
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[Thr 7804] JLaunchCloseProgram: good bye (exitcode = -11113)

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There is almost no earthly reason to keep a copy of OS X 10.0 installed on any computer. If someone in the church has a grievous sin to expiate, using OS X 10.0 for a week or two would be a fitting penance. 10.0 was a beta version — barely half there, less than half ready, and pure misery to use.
If I were you, I'd erase the partition that contains 10.0, use the original disc(s) that came with the G4 to install OS 9.1 on that partition, and then update that installation to 9.2.2 witht he downloadable OS 9.2.1 and 9.2.2 updaters (you can't skip 9.2.1). Then I'd designate the new OS 9.2.2 System Folder for use as Classic in the Classic pane of OS X 10.4's System Preferences, and put it to the test. OS X may want to update a few Classic-related files before Classic will open, but the updates should go well now. If Classic opens and works, test to make sure you can also start up the G4 from the 9.2.2 partition: you should be able to do that, too.
If all seems to be well, copy any important data files that are currently stored on the OS 9.1 hard drive from it to the new OS 9.2.2 partition. After converting them to the new file format as needed and checking to make sure they open and work as desired, I'd suggest performing a Clean Install of OS 9.1 on the second drive.
Contrary to what Beavis has written above, a Clean Install deletes nothing from the drive it's performed on; it merely creates a new, pristine System Folder on the drive and renames the old one "Previous System Folder," leaving that folder and its contents (and everything else on the drive) intact. The term "clean install" is frequently misunderstood and misused to mean an installation that first erases everything, and I presume that's what Beavis was talking about. That isn't what a real Clean Install does.
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Narrow down start up issue need experienced/knowledgeble Mac Expert

Hi,
I have spoken with two level 2 mac specialists and both have concluded that I am having a 3rd party software issue with my Mac Pro 3.0. The issue is it takes 5 minutes for my Mac to boot up from start up/restart. Here is my question; in OS9 to narrow down an issue I could simply drag an Extension on to the desktop and restart to see if the issue continued. Since this issue that I am having is a 3rd party conflict in start up is there a way to remove or 'disable' 3rd party software so basically the system thinks it's not there so I can narrow this issue down to who is the problem child? I really don't want to trash all my 3rd party software to figure this out.
I have recently done a Archive and Install from the install CD 10.5 and the start up was fine. Then when I update to 10.5.4 or 10.5.5 the long start up issue is back. So I am concluding that something is not 10.5+ compatible.
Look forward to someone knowing the answer to my question.
Thanks.

Hi Francine thanks for your input. If I'm not mistaken the Shift key is 'Safe Mode' and that is great but I need to either remove one 3rd party software package at a time or be able to add one at a time until I find the ugly step child. And I don't think Safe Mode will allow that.
I did try the Verbose mode which was pretty cool to see however once it kicks on the video card and goes to the blue screen that is the transition screen after the Apple and before the desktop I lose the verbose read out and at the blue screen is where it hangs for 4 minutes. So unfortunately that didn't work. I really need to know if I can take out a key 'Component' from a specific folder that will not allow a 3rd party to register and then if it's not it simply place it back in the folder and that software is back in business. I am amazed that with today's technology first, that the computer doesn't tell you what the issue is and second that no one has come up with a way to trouble shoot when things do go as planned. Sigh. Any other recommendations? Anyone....Bueller....Bueller?

How do I install all my old programs and data from an old system folder after I have reinstalled the same OSX system after a crash?

The system is OSX10.5.8 Leopard on a 2009 imac. A new system was installed from the installation disks and the original system saved to a folder.
I need to use my Adobe programs, rescue my email, i-tunes and iphoto data. The disk utility indicates that my Time Machine back-up disk is damaged and I don't want to take a risk of having Time Machine erase my hard drive and try to reinstall the exact system existing at the time of the crash. There was over 650 gb of stored files that I was copying and removing from the drive at the time it crashed. The total size of the original system file is still about 650 Gb.
I would prefer to go back in Time Machine and only rescue the programs as most of the files have been copied to external hard drives, but I can't access the back-up hard drive from the new version of the Time Machine. Or by I don't want the Time Mchine to start copying the new operating system which would include all the data in the old system file. Time Machine was working fine at the time of the crash.

No, the disk was backed up with time machine a few hours prior to the crash. I was unable to open the computer when I tried to restart it- got a grey screen with the spinning disk- after a few minutes the screen would go black and would reboot continuously, but not load any images or programs. I started the computer from the 10.5.4 installation disks and checked both the time machine external hard drive and the Imac internal drive with the disk utilities. Both showed as damaged --the internal drive and permissions were repaired, but the external drive (time machine back-up) was damaged and not repairable by disk utilities. I don't believe that the external drive for Time Machine was connected to the computer at the time of the crash as I was copying files to a different hard drive drive. And I was not having any problems with the TM back-up drive prior to the crash.
I accessed the Imac internal disk by firewire (as a target disk) and copied as many data files as I had room for on my external hard drives available. And I deleted quite a few files from the imac internal drive (mostly just jpegs, duplicate tifs, etc--nothing that was used by i-photos, i-tunes or the Mail program).
Then I installed a new OSX10.5.4 system from the installation disk and the old system was moved to a folder on the hard drive. I previousy had had the option to reinstall the complete system from Time Machine when I connected that drive and booted with the installation disks with the C key depressed. But it didn't seem like a good option because I was unsure of the condition of that external disk and whether it would be able to reinstall my data correctly, once it had erased my internal hard drive.
I'm considering buying some new external hard drives and backing up the present system to time Machine (so I'll still have my old data in the old system folder). And then I would try using the old Time Machine back-up to try to reinstall the sytem previous to the crash. That back-up would reinstall about 700gb of data and operating software and programs which sounds like a lengthy back-up. Since I have never used Time Machine to do a full reinstallation (I've only used it for individual files), I'm reluctant to do anything rash.
I'm a professional designer (with a deadline) but I can still use my Illustrator and Photoshop by opening them from the old system folder and saving the files to an external drive. So it's not neccessary to do anything hasty except to delete some of the excess art and document files that were causing the computer to run slowly and the Adobe programs to crash when I tried to save my work. I have quite a few books on tape in the i-tumes folder which is probably talking up tons of space but I don't where the i-tunes files live.
Thanks for any help. Peggy
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System Folder errors after I changed all permissions on HD to read & write

Hi,
Two things may have caused probs on my new 2010 iMac (Snow Leopard), and Applecare is shut so I would really appreciate some help as I have urgent work.
1) INCORRECT PERMISSIONS
I have been stupid. I clicked on Macintosh HD and changed all permissions to read & write because I wanted to be sure I could open and edit all documents on other computers.
I ran Disk Utility Repair Permissions from the install disc, but I am still getting system error messages, and my HP printer won't work.
The first message, in Repair Permissions, said: Warning: SUID file System/Library/Cores has been modified and will not be repaired. I have read a support doc on this which says no need to worry but I don't like it and would like to fix this.
More importantly, my HP printer won't work, displays error beside the document in print dialogue box.
Deleting the printer and readding it didn't work, so I downloaded new drivers and tried to install them, which is when I got the second system error message: System extension System/Library/Extensions/BJUSBLoad.kext was installed improperly and cannot be used. Please try reinstalling it or contact product's vendor for an update.
I checked the permissions on the file and they were still wrong despite Repair Permissions, allowing everyone to read & write. So I have now clicked on the entire System folder and changed the permissions to: System read & write, admin read only, everyone read only.
Will this fix it or do I need to do something else, such as check ownership, to make sure all permissions on the computer are now correct?
2) MEMORY STICK SHUT DOWN MY IMAC
Additionally (though I don't think this had anything to do with my problems), I inserted a Sandisk USB memory stick the other day and it immediately shut down the computer. When I inserted it into my Macbook it initially rejected it and gave me a message saying the device wanted too much power so it had ejected it to prevent damage to my computer. When I tried again it was OK. I totally reformatted the stick in case there was something harmful on it, but should I now bin the stick as faulty? Scared to use it again.
3) IS IT BEST TO REINSTALL ENTIRE SOFTWARE?
If I do a reinstall of all the software from the install disc, will it wipe out all my data, such as Mail, documents, bookmarks and other apps?
I would back-up, but if I try and back up files on my external drive it will automatically do a Time Machine back-up and I don't want to do that in case it backs-up all the corrupted files. Otherwise, I wouldn't mind starting again just to be sure all is well.
Expert advice would be very much appreciated.
Thank you
Sarah

Oh, silly really. I was in a hurry and working on docs that I needed to take to the office and open on another computer there.
But when I checked the permissions on the doc it said I could read & write but everyone else was read only.
I thought if I opened it on another machine I'd be stuck with read only access and not be able to work on there. I think I couldn't change it, so I thought to avoid any future problems like that I would change everything on machine!
Yikes. Won't do that again
Sarah

OS 9.2.2 system folder not recognised in tiger

Hi,
I'm a bit lost here. I'm trying to get Classic to run in OS X 10.4.11. which has no previous copy of OS9 on it. The OS X was a clean install.
I installed a copy of OS9.1 onto a USB dongle and then managed to boot the G3 through this and install OS 9.2.1 and then 9.2.2. It had to be installed on the dongle so that I could boot the iMac into OS9 and then install the updates.
Now, when I start Classic from System Preferences it will find the OS 9.2.2 system folder on the dongle and quite happily run, but it is obviously a lot slower than if the system folder was on the OS X HD.
So I copied the contents of the USB dongle to the root of the OS X HD and now it will not find the folder.
Do I need to do anything to enable the OS9 folder now it is on my hard disk. I thought maybe the disk is formatted differently if it is set up exclusively for OS X when carrying out a clean install.
Interestingly, the machine found my OS9.1 system folder on the HD and tried to run Classic from that, but it just hung on start-up which is a known error between OS 9.1 and Tiger - Hence why I updated from 9.1 to 9.2.2

Don't worry. I've managed to resolve it.
I restored my OS9.1 system folder and then copied the contents of the 9.2.2 folder into this. Classic picked it up and work fine.
The only problem is that now I have discovered that iMovie 2 is not supported in a Classic environment. That was the only reason I was attempting this anyway.
Oh well....

How to open local system folder from the browser

Hi All,
I'm working on some stuff, wherein the user downloads the files from internet to his local machine. I'm able to catch the path of the folder where user wants to download the file from SaveAs prompt. Now my requirement is , i want to provide a link button or
a button on the web page and assign this is folder path dynamically so that when the user clicks on it, it should open the local system folder where he has downloaded the files.
string myDocspath
=Environment.GetFolderPath(Environment.SpecialFolder.MyDocuments);
string windir
= Environment.GetEnvironmentVariable("WINDIR");
System.Diagnostics.Process prc
= new System.Diagnostics.Process();
prc.StartInfo.FileName = windir + @"\explorer.exe";
prc.StartInfo.Arguments = myDocspath;
prc.Start();
Work fine with local system, if i host the application in IIS , the above code snippet wont work
Thanks in advance,
Suraj Kumar
Software Engineer

Hello,
local resources is disabled in all modern browsers due to security restrictions.
if the reply help you mark it as your answer.
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Error Message: "Skype can not start because the system is not available"

Try to reset all Skype settings. Quit Skype or use Windows Task Manager to kill any Skype.exe process. Go to Windows Start and in the Search/Run box type %appdata% and then press Enter or click the OK button. The Windows File Explorer will pop up. There locate a folder named “Skype”. Rename this folder to something different, e.g. Skype_old. Next go to Windows Start and in the Search/Run box type %temp%\skype and then press Enter or click the OK button. Delete the DbTemp folder. Restart Skype. N.B. If needed, you will still be able to re-establish your call and chat history. All data is still saved in the Skype_old folder.

Okay!
I'm newbie here, but it doesn't matter. I dont want to do here anything else, just write off my opinion about the Microsoft's "new" Skype, and I hope they will read...
This is a cropped image - of course hungarian, because I'm hungarian, but I think many of us could see this as well. How this is possible? "The Skype can not start because the system is not available" *** What kind of system? The Skype was on a P2P system, where is impossible that the system is not available! This is why the skype was much better than the Microsoft's messenger. Then they bought it, and make it wrong...
I found a solution for this problem, this can happen if my client is not updated. But IT IS!
How does it works? Can we use the **bleep** Skype how we would like to use? Or this time we need to find an other application (like Viber), and using that while they not buying that as well, just because that is better?
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System folder no longer recognized! Please Help!

Hello,
I'm usually able to handle all my mac related problems, but this time I'm stumped. I'm writing this from my old ibook, as my main iMac is now very sick.
Essentially, my system folder is not recognized anymore. I get the flashing "?" symbol at start-up. So I start with the Apple CD. Disk utilty diagnosis: no problem at all, all permissions alright.
I set the start-up folder to the one on my main HD and restart. It works.
But as soon as I have to restart again, same problem.
So I tried the old trick of resetting the start-up disk in the system prefs. No help.
(((I'm writing now because things went from bad to worse. After restarting with the CD 10 mins ago, I went to Disk Utility and discovered that the main HD is not even recognized. -- But while I was typing this, after another CD restart, the HD finally appeared in Disk Utility. Some problem were found and fixed. Restarting now.)))
So, can anyone offer some advice?
Thanks
Loa

Doesn't sound good. FIrst, back it up if you possibly can.
Then boot from your Leopard install disk (insert it, boot while holding the "C") key.
Once it starts, choose your language, then select Utilities from the top menubar, then +Disk Utilitiy+ and do a +Repair Disk.+
Then try again.

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