STO PIR and Batch management

Hi All,
I've an issue. I honestly dont know where I can get a solution for that and thats why i will post it in mm and also pp forum.
Here is my issue.
All materials are batch managed. Each and every customer can get only certain batches and not all batches meet the requirement of a customer. Lets say I have 3 plants (plant 1, plant 2 and plant 3) and I have 3 customers ( cust1, cust2 and cust3). Lets say I get a demand for material and I create PIR's in plant 1. when I run MRP, it will generate planned orders. I convert that into purchase req and then into STO for plant 2. when plant 2 doesn't have the raw material to process into semi finished, I will create and sto from plant 2 to plant 3 to get the raw material. The reason we create sto to plant 2 initially is because it has to process something before it sends it to plant 1. so the link is from customer 1 --> plant 1 (finished goods) -- > plant 2 (semi finished) --> plant 3 (raw material).
Right from raw material it is specific to a customer. i.e. not all raw material batches from plant 3 will be accepted by customer 1.
so when the demand flows from customer 1 to plant 2, is there anywhere that I can keep track of for which customer that order is going and select raw materials based on the end customer ?
Also even though I maintain some information in text field in STO, when I run mrp at the supplying location for other plant, it will not pick anything up in planned order. how can we make it pick up automatically ??
I have no idea on VC, can I do anything with VC for this ?
or is there anyway that I can link together through enhancements, custom development, z tables for this ??
please do let me know

Is this for discrete or process industry ?

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STOs, PIRs and batch management problem

Hi All,
I've an issue. I honestly dont know where I can get a answer for this.
Here is my scenario
All materials are batch managed. Each and every customer can get only certain batches and not all batches meet the requirement of a customer. Lets say I have 3 plants (plant 1, plant 2 and plant 3) and I have 3 customers ( cust1, cust2 and cust3). Lets say I get a demand for material and I create PIR's in plant 1. when I run MRP, it will generate planned orders. I convert that into purchase req and then into STO for plant 2. when plant 2 doesn't have the raw material to process into semi finished, I will create and sto from plant 2 to plant 3 to get the raw material. The reason we create sto to plant 2 initially is because it has to process something before it sends it to plant 1. so the link is from customer 1 --> plant 1 (finished goods) -- > plant 2 (semi finished) --> plant 3 (raw material). Right from raw material it is specific to a customer. i.e. not all raw material batches from plant 3 will be accepted by customer 1. So when the demand flows from customer 1 to plant 2, is there anywhere that I can keep track of for which customer that order is going and select raw materials based on the end customer
Also even though I maintain some information in text field in STO, when I run mrp at the supplying location for other plant, it will not pick anything up in planned order. how can we make it pick up automatically
I have no idea on VC, can I do anything with VC for this
or is there anyway that I can link together through enhancements, custom development, z tables for this
please

Hi,
My suggestions:
1.
Check MARC-SBDKZ on MRP 4 view of material master.
If you are in MTO environment and you use "1" in this field (in plant2&3), then plant2&3 will procure the goods into SO special stock and customer can be seen in MD04 under supplying plants.
2.
MPN
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/75/ee15c655c811d189900000e8322d00/frameset.htm
Regards,
Csaba

Material maintained in split valuation and batch management

Dear Seniors,
I have maintained a material with both split valuation and batch management. If i check in MMBE, only batch management is getting preference. Valuation type is not coming. Why is it so ? why maintaining both is not possible in SAP ??? kindly explain me please.
Regards,
JanaMM

If you Mantain both Split valuation as well as batch mgmt for a material, then all stock reports will show "Batch " and Not valuation type since batch is relevant to inventory mgmt and split valuation is relevant for account determination and valuation. , the only report which wil show you both is BMBC(batch info cockpit).
You can however run MB5B w.r.t valuation type in the input screen.
In such cases , The Valuation Type forms a part of the batch master which you can see in MSC3N .

Configuration steps for Quality and Batch Management.

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We are implementing QM along with Batch Management for testing the material like purity,pathology tests.
I am new to Quality and Batch Management.
Could any one guide me, how to configure material master for QM and Batch to test the material?.
Thanks

1) Maintain Material with Classification and Quality Management view
2) Tick the Check box Quality key Active in QM View->QM view->Inspection Set up and activate the inspection type for which the inspection lot.(e.g insp. type 01 - GR against PO)
3) Create Quality Info Record(QI01)
4) In PO the stock automatically goes to Quality stock.
5) Check MMBE stock
6) Do Result Recording and Usage Decision(QA32)
7) Check stock (MMBE).
There are few steps where the PP/QM Consultant need to help you in QI01,QA32 and in Creating characteristics and class according to Requirement(purity...etc).
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eswarmanu...
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VPRS cost and batch management

Hi Gurus,
Is there any link between the cost and batch management? Currently users has posted a billing document and the cost is 0. The VPRS value in the SO is correctly but it is not brought to the billing document.
We have tested and it seems that this is because the batch management checkbox is not checked in material master, so the VPRS is not generated in billing.
Please advise. Thanks.
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FY

Hi Javier,
what do you do with the VPRS in your calculation- system ?
If you need i, you delete the requirement 004 in your calculation -system.
on the other hand, you can change TANN to komp-evrwr (price determination on the item category) is 'X'. Then you have to add an 100% rabate for TANN and the resukt will be free good.
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What is the difference between Serial numbers and Batch management.

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of the total quantity of a material held in stock, which is managed separately from
other subsets of the same material.
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PIR's and batch management issue, can this be solved in APO ?

Hi All,
I've an issue. I honestly dont know where I can get a solution for that and thats why i will post it in mm and also pp forum.
Here is my issue.
All materials are batch managed. Each and every customer can get only certain batches and not all batches meet the requirement of a customer. Lets say I have 3 plants (plant 1, plant 2 and plant 3) and I have 3 customers ( cust1, cust2 and cust3). Lets say I get a demand for material and I create PIR's in plant 1. when I run MRP, it will generate planned orders. I convert that into purchase req and then into STO for plant 2. when plant 2 doesn't have the raw material to process into semi finished, I will create and sto from plant 2 to plant 3 to get the raw material. The reason we create sto to plant 2 initially is because it has to process something before it sends it to plant 1. so the link is from customer 1 --> plant 1 (finished goods) -- > plant 2 (semi finished) --> plant 3 (raw material).
Right from raw material it is specific to a customer. i.e. not all raw material batches from plant 3 will be accepted by customer 1.
so when the demand flows from customer 1 to plant 2, is there anywhere that I can keep track of for which customer that order is going and select raw materials based on the end customer ?
Can this be solved in APO ?

Hi sapcrs,
Your requirement is meet the solution of configuration of the following scenario.
customer 1 --> plant 1 (finished goods) -- > plant 2 (semi finished) --> plant 3 (raw material).
The conditions are
a) Raw material is batch managed
b) Keep track of order flow
Solution:-
1) Maintain raw material as batch managed in R/3. Suitably class and characterisitics to be developed to send the information to APO as that the RM is batch managed.
2) The Bom of semi-fnished item at plant-2 to be maintained with raw material. The source of supply has to be linked with plant-3. The RM will be externally procured from plant-3 for plant-2 which is batch specific. The Bom item will be send to APO as PPM which contain all bom and routing details.
3) Now once RM is ready at Plant-3, it will be sourced to plant-2 and at plant-2, semi-fnished item will be made with the production orders triggered from bom & routing data at plant-2
4) Now semi-finished item is ready at plant-2. Once it is ready, it has to be sent to plant-1 for mfg FG. This can be achieved by creating lane between plant-1 and plant-2.
5) Through lane, semifinished item reaches plant-1 which is made at plant-2 which contains RM made at plant-3 which is batch specific.
6) Using semifinished item, Finished product can be made at plant-1
7) Now your final requirement is to track all order flow changes. This can be achieved by mechanism in APO called pegging. Using pegging, the order flow can be tracked right from FG to RM.
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R. Senthil Mareeswaran.

STO from non batch managed to batch managed - Incorrect batch being posted

Hi Folks,
We use STOs to transfer materials from a non batch managed plant into a batch managed plant with a one step movement. The process we use is to create the STO and enter material, batch, quantity and receiving plant / Sloc. Then create an outbound delivery (which pulls through the correct batch) for the STO which we pick and PGI. The movements are a 647 out of issuing plant (no batch), a 647 into receiving plant (no batch) and a 101 into receiving plant (with batch).
The problem I have is that even though the correct batch is in both the STO and the delivery, when the one step PGI is done SAP ignores the batch and automatically creates a new one.
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Isn't possible the material once had been batch managed but later batch management was removed (and batches archived)? You can have a look at change hisotry of material master <-- update: forget this suggestion...you cannot remove batch management indicator if you have stock...
If the material is really not batch managed (you can find relevant record in MCHA table) then it seems you have inconsitency in your system; it's better you report this error to OSS.
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VPRS with Free Goods and Batch Management

Dear Experts,
I have a problem on the products billing with Free Goods.
I will explain this, before the implementation of Batch Management (with batch split) the billing document show the condition VPRS on the main item (TAN) and the free goods item (TANN).
Now, when the Batch Management was up, the condition VPRS disappeared on the TANN item, I checked the order and it does shows the VPRS conditions. When i check the conditions on the billing document it shows me the following message when i check the VPRS condition
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Hi Javier,
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I have created an Item say XYZ, with Batch management and valuation methode FIFO.
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Mukesh

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Hi All,
Hope you can help me to find the better solution... I will try to explain my scenario
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Thanks for your replay.
No really I don't like to make the batch mandatory, during the good issue is not feasible inform the batch due to it is not managed in the Process Control System. Due to the behavior of PI_CONS if for batch managed materials the batch is not informed in the message or in the reservation an error is trigger. In the reservation snot feasible inform the batch because in that moment is unknown.
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