Student need details about Business One prices.
Hi
I'm a german student and i have to do a project about SAP Business One. It's necessary for me to get more informations about the prices for this ERP software. I've searched the I-net for many days but couldn't find any helpfull informations.
I need detail informations about asset costs, follow-up costs, license fees, costs for training the employers to handle the software and maintenance costs. If anybody can help me about that i will be very glad.
greetings, daniel
Well, first thing is the pricing is dependant on the country or at least the region you are buying B1 from. For example in Europe you could buy a SAP B1 license for 2500 euros when in Australia you can buy it for AUD2500 (FX rate 0.62).
The price is based on the market, the performance, the index of investment etc.
You also have to differenciate in your analysis the cost of licenses and the cost of implementing. Some partners are using a rule of thumb saying that the cost of implementation is roughly the cost of one license. I tend not to agree with it but that's a base I guess.
Regards,
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About thin, fat, recursive and contended locks in JRockit:
Let's start with the easiest part: recursive locks. A recursive lock
occurs in the following scenario:synchronized(foo) { // first time thread takes lock
synchronized(foo) { // this time, the lock is taken recursively
}The recursive lock taking may also occur in a method call several levels
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by another thread). Let me be clear: contention ALWAYS costs in terms of
performance. The exact cost depends on many factors. I'll get to some more
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spent on other threads. Still, if the lock is released by the other
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