Subcontracting Purchase order-With scrap or extra qty.
Dear Experts
How we can define the Scrap or extra Qty in subcontarcting purchase order, suppose PO qty is 10500 , and we want to receive 10000 only then how we can take care about the 500 qty and there mantioned BOM.,we want to give the material of 10500 .
Rgds
Pankaj Agarwal
Hi,
it is common scenario that when u give material to sub contractor,off cuts will get generated.
so u cant get the 10500 qty in the material mentioned in the BOM for that,
u can overwrite the value at the time of GR for consumtion.
for 543 movet type.
means if as per BOM for 1000 qty material requirement is 1000 but actual consumption is 1050 qty.
then overwrite the 1000 by 1050 at GR for 543 movt type line item
regards,
sujit
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