Sun Identity Manger 8.0 and fail over..

We are setting up a fail/recovery site for our Sun Identity Manager solution, I had pictured a seem less fail over, but that looks near impossible to do with oracle database. I had pictured load balanced Appserver, with load balanced data bases, sort of a multi-master like LDAP allows..
Curious what others are using for a fail over site / setup.
Thanks

We're using 7.0. For us failover is basically mulitple servers all using the same DB repository, with a "smart" loadbalancer in front of them (smart meaning, able to detect which back end servers are responsive).
IdM doesn't use any inter-server temp-data synchronization, all the servers running off the same repository communicate by committing changes to the database.
So if a specific IdM instance dies, on the next page load the user will be redirected to a new server. That server will redirect to the login page and ask the user to re-auth, with the desired page placed after login.jsp as a "nextPage" argument. After (re-)logging in, the user's returned to the page they were trying to get to. However, in-progress edits that had not been committed back to the database will be lost.
We looked at high availability arrangements where valid sessions are shared across a new server, but fundamentally the limitation is that the app servers still don't sync in-progress edits, so the only difference between an HA environment and a more passive fail-over environment (like ours) is that in an HA environment the user doesn't have to re-login on a server failure; they still lose in-progress edits. So HA didn't seem like it added value to us.
If you are literally talking about an off-site, completely standby, seamless failover site, I agree I don't see how you would do that. I'd expect that you'd need the offsite setup to be a cold-standby site; configured to use the replicated database, but with the apps powered down until you actually need them. Otherwise, I think you'd have problems with the standby site servers not wanting to "standby". You could ensure no users end up on the standby servers, but background processes are likely to be run across both the primary and the standby services; I don't think you can enforce an "idle but running" status for the standby servers.
Edited by: etech on Feb 4, 2009 7:37 PM

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              "Frank Olsen" <[email protected]> wrote:
              >
              >Hi,
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              >TAF worked with WLS 6 on NT with the Oracle 8.1.7 client!
              >
              >Has anyone tested it on Solaris/SPARC?
              >
              >Regards,
              >Frank Olsen
              >
              >
              >
              >"Frank Olsen" <[email protected]> wrote:
              >>
              >>Hi,
              >>
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              >>and
              >>versions).
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              >>
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              >>
              >>Thanks in advance for your help!
              >>
              >>Regards,
              >>Frank Olsen
              >>
              >>
              >>"Frank Olsen" <[email protected]> wrote:
              >>>
              >>>Hi,
              >>>
              >>>This message is probably a bit out of context (I've
              >already
              >>>posted
              >>>it to the JDBC group). I post here as well, since I
              >guess
              >>>it's
              >>>the place where people have the most experience with
              >>clustering
              >>>and HA. Original posting below...
              >>>
              >>>----
              >>>
              >>>Could you please tell me whether, yes or no, connections
              >>>to an
              >>>Oracle database should fail over (when the database
              >fails
              >>>over
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              >>>Failover
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              >>>8.1.7
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              >>>
              >>>
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              >>>
              >>>If TAF doesn't work with WebLogic, is there a way to
              >>work
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              >>>
              >>>I'd appreciate any help. I'd like to demonstrate our
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              >>>product
              >>>with WLS. If it doesn't work, I'll turn to iPlanet instead.
              >>>Pity,
              >>>I really like WLS!
              >>>
              >>>Thanks in advance for any help or advice!
              >>>
              >>>Regards, Frank Olsen
              >>>
              >>
              >
              

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