Temperature Monitor for OS 10.3.9

I need an application or console command that will show me the temperature of my CPU.
I'm running a Beige G3 that is using a G4 processor. It's running OS 10.3.9 through the use of the application xPostFacto. I've found the apps "Temperature Monitor 4.8" and "Hardware Monitor 4.8," but those don't support any Mac OSs below 10.4.x. Temperature Monitor 4.7 supports Mac OS 10.3.9, but I can't find a download of it for the life of me. All of the links redirect to version 4.8.
Please, any help would be much appreciated, my project is at a stand still until I can find something that works.
Thanks!

Click on my TMM name at left & send me an email. I'll send you the 10.3 version. Don't know if your Mac has the sensors to monitor the temps.
 Cheers, Tom

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Yes and no. But, this doesn't really seem to be the case! If this is true, simply running Quake4 SHOULD cause the fans to kick on as the GPU is being heavily used. This did not happen on my machine. Only after reapplying the thermal paste would both fans kick in during heavy use. My guess is that it is actually a mix of conditions that cause the fans to operate at different levels. Heat pipe temp + GPU load + ...
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