Text flow in pages

How do you set up text flow in the newest version of pages, using the "drawing" part of pages? Moving automatically from one text box to the next one.

It is sad that programmers of all kinds seem to fail to check with users on what to leave in. I have run across this problem with several programs over the years. A really good feature is suddenly gone with no explanation or suggestion for working around it.

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How do I create text flow in Pages 5.1 if text boxes do not link?

Hi Everyone,
Is there any way Pages 5.1 enables text to flow between text boxes if the text boxes do not link? Thanks!

Like I said, Peter, new to the forum. As for the app store I assumed the new version would, if anything, enhance the functionality of older versions. I obviously made the wrong assumption, both there and thinking that Apple might be paying attention to what is going on here. If I seem upset, it's because I just spent a bunch of money on a new system and am slowly discovering the many small ways in which Apple's software (and hardware) is being dumbed down. Seems like now that Jobs is gone and Apple's stock is through the roof, the cost-cutter... I mean stock-inflators are calling the shots.

Text flow to additional pages at end of document, how to set up in InDesign CS5

I've added additional pages to a document in InDesign CS5 -- but how do I set up my document so when text is supposed to get pushed to the additional pages the text flows from page to page on these extra added pages? Right now I've added additional pages to the end of my document and when the text from the original document gets pushed past the end it disappears and not continued on the additional pages.
Thanks,
Jeff

P Spier wrote:
Yeah, container may not be the best word to describe a book, which is why I put it in quotes, and I certainly didn't mean to imply that you can no longer open and edit the files outside the book. Doing that, however, means next time you open the book ID will complain and ask you to update things. No big deal, but if you open through the book panel it will save the changes through the book and that won't happen. No difference to the inidividual files.
Historically - as in *roff and other UNIX-based processing programs like xroff, nroff, etc - books that were published from multiple individual component files, were produced by the use of a "makefile." You'd need to create the makefile by typing the names of the component files in the book order, along withtheir specifications, such as starting page side, starting page number, etc. You'd save the makefile with a name to preserve all this information, then you'd run the "make" command-line command in which you'd name the makefile, and include arguments such as which printer, how many copies, even a job priority, to avoid unnecessarily hogging the network bandwidth and free the printer for higher-priority jobs. As GUI capable hardware and software progressed, command-line makefiles became GUI book files - still, basically lists of component files and processing instructions.
One important value of book files that don't contain component files is that different book files can control the processing of the same component files in different ways, as well as produce books that use some of the same files and some different files - for different audiences, different product sets, etc. Yes, opening a book file may warn that component files have changed - a good warning to the user to pay attention - and they offer a way to update the collection of component files so that the book file produces the desired result. Here's where some folks may be surprised when they find that sometimes a print or export dialog box, either retains or forgets the settings used for the previous run; the result may be printing multiple copies instead of one, printing to a different printer than expected, or exporting a PDF that's not suitable for the desired printer.
The short story is that while book processing lists that are separate from the component files offer flexibility and reusability, but they also require that the user pays attention.
Did I commingle Autoflow and Smart Text Reflow in some way? I didn't think so.
Not at all. I'm just extra-sensitive to my own experiences with not having taking pains to keep clear on the differences between these similar-sounding terms.
My point was that HOW your text was put into the file to begin with, coupled with how your settings for STR are configured, is going to control whether subsequent editing triggers reflow. It's possible to have STR enabled and not have it work because you've limited it to master text frames and you haven't actually used any. An understanding of how autoflow works when placing text is important to being able to troubleshoot why STR is not behaving as expected (not to mention why text frames may not be adjusting if you edit the master page).
One reason for the confusions that come from working with Smart Text Reflow is that there's no indication in the UI, that STR is enabled, and when it's enabled, there's no indication in the UI of which STR settings are in effect, except by seeing the behavior. Are pages added at the end or story, section, or document? You may see them added in the Pages panel, if it's open, on screen, and if the appropriate portion of the document is in view; you may see them added on screen if the appropriate portion of the document is on screen - the end of story, section, or document.
In InDesign's Help, Smart Text Reflow is covered in only a few paragraphs. As you noted, there's much more to it.
Regards,
Peter
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How to flow text across multiple pages in 9

My form is lengthy, and one Master Page section will be text with no form fields, but the text is 10+ pages, depending on the version of terms and conditions provided. In this link, http://forums.adobe.com/message/5112687, there is much discussion on how to accomplish in 8.2, but how would I accomplish in 9? I would like to be able to paste the 10+ pages and have it automatically flow for that Master Page section. Have tried placing a text field and also tried a text into a flowable subform, setting it to multiple lines, keep with next, but just not sure how to set it up properly. I can see the plus sign at the bottom of the text box, but when I preview, it does not flow to the other pages. Was hoping to avoid setting up 10+ pages in the form, as from time to time these terms/conditions are updated, and it would be much faster to just be able to copy/paste from Word into a properly set up text field or subform. Hope this makes sense, and appreciate any advice, thank you.

Get your text from Word (or wherever you'd like to edit the text so that it looks right).
Open a LiveCycle document (a new one if you're starting from scratch, anyway)
Select your page1 subform, set content to Flowed (Allow page breaks should set automatically).
Add a text field (make sure it's listed as a part of that page1 subform).
Change the text field's caption position to none and make sure Allow multiple lines is checked (as well as allow page breaks). Set height to auto expand
click on the default value for the text field. Paste that 9-page document inside.
Wait a few seconds (or minutes) for LiveCycle to catch up.
Preview and enjoy your new document with several pages automatically paginated for you.

Text flows create a delay when an overflow creates a new page, preventing you from reading the page number, giving error

Hi all!
I am creating a script to generate automatically a photo catalog; the idea is to prepare a master document with a text frame in the master spread with auto flowing, then insert images with their caption by the script, letting the system create automatically the subsequent pages when necessary by an unique flow of text.
My catalog is divided in sections, each represented by a different master spread; so I have to know in which page I am working when the script put there an image, just to link the current page to the proper master spread.
To simplify everything I have resumed the core of my script here, using text instead of images:
/* load a master document, only containing an empty text frame in the master spread, connected to the main text flow */
var doc = app.open(new File("~/Desktop/mySampleDoc.indd"));
/* I work on the story, thinking that whenever the textframe of the first page will be full, another text frame will be created in the next page (automatically created) */
var story = doc.pages[0].textFrames[0].parentStory;
/* now I put some lines of text into the story, expecting the creation of a new page when the first one will be full */
for (var i = 0; i < 100; i++) {
   /* this is next line: */
    story.insertionPoints[-1].contents = "this is line n. " + i + "\r";
    /* here I want to know on which page is the line just created (error is generated here just during the creation of the new page + text frame) */
    thisPage = story.insertionPoints[-1].parentTextFrames[0].parentPage.documentOffset;
   /* and now I print page number */
    story.insertionPoints.item(-1).contents = "current page: " + thisPage + "\r";
The big problem is: when the first text frame is full and an overflow is generated, a new page with a new text frame belonging to the main text flow (as the master spread wants) is generated; but it seems my script requests the page number before the new page with the new text frame is born, and an error is given.
It seems like the script goes too fast in respect to the creation of the new page.
If I delete the line thisPage = story.insertionPoints[-1].parentTextFrames[0].parentPage.documentOffset; everything is ok.
I tried to introduce a delay until 3 seconds without any effect.
I tried also to show or zoom the new page before the page number request, thinking to force the system to wait until page is really born, also without any effect (by the way, I was not able to show the page during the script's additions of text!).
Someone can help me?
Many thanks to everyone
Roberto

Many thanks: you are right!
Unfortunately, I am at the very beginning with ExtendScript, and there are so many things I don't know until now...
With recompose() everything works very well, and it give me a solution also for redrawing the page while the script is working...
Many thanks, again!
Roberto

Problem with Pages text flow

In a 'Pages' long document the text flow is not consistent despite the settings in the Inspector being identical. On some facing pages the last line does not justify, on others the text refuses to fill large gaps that seem to occur at random.

No Gremlins, just your settings.
Prevent widow and orphans will haul lines over onto subsequent pages leaving gaps where necessary. If you don't want that then uncheck it. You understand what those terms mean?
Language applies to selected text just like bolding, fonts, color etc. If you are copying and pasting material from elsewhere such as the Internet they will have their own langauge or none. The default language is whatever you have set it in System Preferences.
Paragraph Styles will stay what they were in the document or what they were when you pasted them into the document. Use Paste and Match Style if you want it to conform to the style of where you are pasting it.
It is possible for a paragraph of text to have mixed styles due to author's changes. To force apply a style to text, double click it in the Styles Drawer.
Peter

How to connect text boxes so that text flows from different boxes to others, on same page or other pages?

How do you connect Text Boxes? So that text flows from one to the other, on same page or following pages?

I am paying for Serif's Affinity Designer, which I don't need, so Serif has seed money for Affinity Publisher, which I am hoping will prove just as good as A.D.
I like Serif's attitude to its customers.
They acknowledge that their customers actually have jobs, and just want tools that don't stop them doing their work.
Apple sells tools for Selfies, but I've yet to meet anyone who makes a living out of taking and distributing them.
Peter

Solved: InDesign CC: Problems with text in text box: text flows around invisible object

I just upgraded from CS4 to CC. I have two problems with text in some text boxes:
The text seems to flow around invisible object that I cannot find or delete. It's as if there is a photo or other object behind the text box; but when I press COMMAND-a to select all, I don't see any such object.
When I move this text box, the layout of the text within changes. For example, when the box is high on my spread, the text flows correctly within the box; but when I move it down, it flows around that hidden other object. For another example, when the box is low on the page, the text starts at the top of the box; but when I move the text box up, the text starts somewhere in the middle of the box.
I have checked margins of the text box and the paragraph options of the text paragraphs (margins, indents, alignments). They all look OK.
If I modify the text box, checking the box "Ignore text wrap", then the problem goes away; but then the text also will not flow around a real object that I want it to flow around.
Solution:
There were objects in a hidden layer on that one spread. It seems that in CS4 when you "select all" you would also select objects in hidden layers; but in CC it doesn't.

Arthur, Garry
Would be great if you could send the files as attachment in an email to [email protected]
Else, you may post here using these steps: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3994281
Thanks!
- Neeraj

How to link text frames in Pages 5.2?

How to link text frames in Pages 5.2?

The correct term in Pages is Text Boxes, and true linking is not implemented in v5.2. You can Unite, Intersect, Subtract, and Exclude multiple Text Boxes via the Arrange panel. These attributes only appear when two or more Text Boxes are selected. Also, on the Arrange menu, you will need Object Placement set to Move with Text, and the Text Wrap set to None for more accurate positioning.
In the following example, there was initially a Text Box with overflowing text that was duplicated. With both Text Boxes selected and aligned, I could then use the Unite feature from the Arrange panel. This allowed the text to flow into the second box. Selecting text in one box and dragging upwards continues the text selection between both boxes. Hoefler italic applied in one box is applied to both. Appropriately placed, another trip to the Arrange panel to enable Text Wrap around and text fit adjustments.

Text flow around objects such as giraffe neck in sample

Hi
I am new here. I bought pages yesterday. Awesome app. On the example pages there is a giraffe and the text flows around it's neck. When I tried to do something similar the text only flows around the whole square image imported regardless of white space. How do you get text to flow around non square objects.
In the getting started there is a butterfly and the golden viewer. In those cases the text also flows around the non square shape of these objects
Do you need an app to cut out such objects and paste them direct into pages?
Or in other words : how did they get the text to flow around giraffe neck?
Thanks a mil
Corne

Corne ~ Welcome to the discussions. See this Help page:
http://help.apple.com/iwork/1.3/safari/index.html#tan72488c93
...If following the instructions there for "+Wrap text around an object"+ doesn't do it, it implies that you'll have to cut around the image first. And this phrase there, seems to suggest that you'll have to cut around first:
"Especially if you have images with irregular outlines, you can use text wrap to create visually playful layouts in which the text follows the contours of the image."
And there's more online support for iPad's Pages app here:
http://www.apple.com/support/ipad/pages

Having trouble linking text boxes in Pages on iMac

I can't seem to link text boxes so that text flows from one to another. Has the process in Pages changed in the new update? Any advice? Thanks!

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Text Flow around objects

I have a two-column book with photographs/diagrams of different sizes. On occasions where these extend into the second column, the text flow is often uneven across the two columns. I can get the text in the right hand column to move down, but not the left to move up. (page 11) Sometimes the same sort of thing applies with the photo just in one column - the left and right text blocks don't line up. It's probably something simple I am missing, but what?
Another issue on similar lines concerns any box/photo/line/object I put in place. When I started with the program, I experimented a little with the Text Wrap settings. Somehow these became accepted as default, and every new line/box etc comes in with these settings I then have to alter. How do I change these default settings? I have re-set it any number of times, it still comes back to my first experimental values.
I am using CS6 InDesign on an i-Mac with OSX 10.6.8.
Thanks, Les

CAPTAINLES46 wrote:
- the left and right text blocks don't line up. It's probably something simple I am missing, but what?
Check the Help files for an explanation of how to use the Baseline Grid feature. It's not fun, but it fixes your problem.
CAPTAINLES46 wrote:
Another issue on similar lines concerns any box/photo/line/object I put in place. When I started with the program, I experimented a little with the Text Wrap settings. Somehow these became accepted as default, and every new line/box etc comes in with these settings I then have to alter. How do I change these default settings?
To change the default for the current document, set it to None with nothing selected.
To change the default for all future documents, set it to None with no document open.

Importing WORD text files with formatting and Text Flow issues IDCS3

I am a designer who has used ID since it first came out, but have not been utilizing the larger document capabilities lately as I've been working in large format graphics (like really large, so if you have questions on that I can answer!). I am working on a new magazine and the copy is in WORD. I want to know the best way to bring in the text and keep the italic and bold formatting. The WORD docs have no style format done by the writers, so therefore changing the styles to my styles in the custom import section doesn't work. I tried making a character style sheet with no font chosen just "italics", but didn't work. I still was unable to make a paragraph style on top of it.
If anyone has a good methodology for bringing in WORD text and keeping it's attributes while applying ID style sheets please help!
Also with text flow, I have always had an issue with ID with not creating more pages to keep the flow going. In a test I just did I placed the text, but it did not create any new pages. I know there's a way to make that work, but spell it out for me like I'm a person losing their mind which seems to be the case!
Thank you in advance to the person who can give me advice!

What for settings do you have on the importoptions when bringing in Word? Keep formatting or loose formatting? And if loose formatting: is Keep local formatting on or off?

[JS CS3] How to detect text flow?

Hello,
Here is a fun problem: I have a series of scripts that checks for various errors in formatting of an ID file. The errors are tagged with XML tags. Very nicely, none of the scripts change the text, just record the errors. This includes that the scripts do not create any text flow, for instance, pushing words from the bottom of one page on to the top of the next page. However, once in a while I have discovered that the text does flow. I do not think the problem is in the scripts but in some instability in the file. Most of the time there is no flow.
So, I would like to write a script that detects text flow. I do not expect anyone here to write it for me but I would like suggestions on the following scheme or if anyone has a better road to follow.
1. Upon opening a file, a script would record the number of characters in the last text frame of any multi-text frame story. This would establish the original state of the file. Getting the number of characters in the last frame is easy, but the thing to ponder is how to record? A .txt document could be created that contains that information, but then how do I use it? Perhaps better is to record the info in variables written by the script itself.
2. Anytime that the number of characters in the last text frame changes an alert would pop-up stating this. Perhaps a snippet of the first line of the last frame would be included in the alert to help the user find the problem (there could be several multi-frame stories in the document).
I would like to be able to turn on and off the alert. While editing there will be of course text flow. But while merely checking I do not want text flow but do want to know when it inadvertently occurs.
I know that such a script(s) would involve Event Listeners, something I have not used before.
Any suggestions? I'm just looking for pointers before I start on the road of writing this.
Thanks,
Tom

Yeah, I know what you mean. The "invisible" XML markers aren't exactly perfectly invisible -- perhaps they mess with the n-th digit of precision when justifying text, or something like that.
There still may be a minor flow between two successive text frames -- a single word that suddenly jumps to the next page, but paragraph spacing adjusts itself to keep the same number of lines.
A good idea, though. You could look into storing the number of characters per frame into the frame itself, as a custom label.

Text Flow in ePUB and Accessible PDF

I have a newsletter in InDesign. I have all the text flow marked. Each article is a separate "story". Story1 flows onto page 2, with the text flows linked correctly. On page 2, story2 begins in the text box below the end of story1.
So on page 2, why does accessble pdf read story2 before the second portion of story1?
I have the same behavior in the version extracted to EPUB.
Any ideas what I am doing wrong? or how I can correct it without having to create a single column of text throughout?
Thank you,
Joyce

I've never seen that. In both accessible PDFs and EPUB, when I export all of a story will be read before going on to another object.
What version of InDesign are you using? If you're using InDesign CS5.5 or later, you can use the Articles panel to set the reading order for accessibility (or for EPUB).

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