The kde-unstable 4.4 issues/discussion thread

i am opening this thread in order to discuss problems and general stuff refering to kde 4.4 from kde-unstable repository.
I start with the first problem i encountered this morning when i upgraded my system :
I have a problem with nepomuk daemon not starting. I tried to enable it in systemsettings through "Desktop search" menu, and i realized that "Desktop search" is missing. Do i need to install anything extra in order to have these settings back?
Last edited by mechmg93 (2010-01-11 08:33:07)

I'm stupid. How to use kde-unstable repository?
I have added this to my /etc/pacman.conf:
[kde-unstable]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
After that I did this:
yaourt -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
core is up to date
extra is up to date
community is up to date
archlinuxfr is up to date
kde-unstable is up to date
Now what? Like I said, I'm stupid
Last edited by nuxorg (2010-01-12 21:21:10)

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http://i43.tinypic.com/27z9lr8.png
http://i42.tinypic.com/96di52.png
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[2013-10-02 23:36] [ALPM] warning: /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc installed as /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc.pacnew
[2013-10-02 23:36] [PACMAN] upgraded kdebase-workspace (4.11.1-2 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:36] [PACMAN] upgraded kdebase-plasma (4.11.1-2 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:36] [PACMAN] upgraded kdebindings-python-common (4.11.1-1 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:36] [PACMAN] upgraded kdebindings-python2 (4.11.1-1 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:36] [PACMAN] upgraded libkipi (4.11.1-1 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:36] [PACMAN] upgraded kdegraphics-gwenview (4.11.1-1 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:36] [PACMAN] upgraded kdegraphics-ksnapshot (4.11.1-1 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:36] [PACMAN] upgraded kdegraphics-okular (4.11.1-1 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:36] [PACMAN] upgraded kdemultimedia-kmix (4.11.1-1 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:36] [PACMAN] upgraded kdenetwork-filesharing (4.11.1-1 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:36] [PACMAN] upgraded kdepimlibs (4.11.1-1 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:36] [PACMAN] upgraded kdeutils-ark (4.11.1-1 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:36] [PACMAN] upgraded kdeutils-kcalc (4.11.1-1 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:36] [PACMAN] upgraded kdeutils-print-manager (4.11.1-1 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:36] [PACMAN] upgraded libffi (3.0.13-3 -> 3.0.13-4)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded libkdcraw (4.11.1-1 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded libkexiv2 (4.11.1-1 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded libksane (4.11.1-1 -> 4.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] >>> Updating module dependencies. Please wait ...
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] >>> Generating initial ramdisk, using mkinitcpio. Please wait...
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux.preset: 'default'
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-linux -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/initramfs-linux.img
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Starting build: 3.11.2-1-ARCH
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [base]
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [autodetect]
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [udev]
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [modconf]
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [block]
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [filesystems]
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [keyboard]
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [fsck]
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Generating module dependencies
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Creating gzip initcpio image: /boot/initramfs-linux.img
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Image generation successful
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux.preset: 'fallback'
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-linux -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/initramfs-linux-fallback.img -S autodetect
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Starting build: 3.11.2-1-ARCH
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [base]
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [udev]
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [modconf]
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [block]
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: bfa
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: aic94xx
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: smsmdtv
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [filesystems]
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [keyboard]
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] -> Running build hook: [fsck]
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Generating module dependencies
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Creating gzip initcpio image: /boot/initramfs-linux-fallback.img
[2013-10-02 23:37] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Image generation successful
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded linux (3.11.1-2 -> 3.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded linux-headers (3.11.1-2 -> 3.11.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded mtdev (1.1.3-1 -> 1.1.4-1)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded p7zip (9.20.1-7 -> 9.20.1-8)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded pambase (20130113-1 -> 20130928-1)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded perl-lwp-mediatypes (6.02-1 -> 6.02-2)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded perl-http-daemon (6.01-1 -> 6.01-2)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded perl-www-robotrules (6.02-1 -> 6.02-2)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded talloc (2.0.8-1 -> 2.0.8-2)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded texinfo (5.1-1 -> 5.2-1)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded tzdata (2013d-1 -> 2013f-1)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded unrar (1:4.2.4-1 -> 1:5.0.12-1)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded wget (1.14-2 -> 1.14-3)
[2013-10-02 23:37] [PACMAN] upgraded wine (1.7.2-1 -> 1.7.3-1)

[kde-unstable] - ... exists in both 'kdeaccessibility-iconthemes' and

Hi,
I've just tried to install the kde-meta package, and I'm getting errors about files existing in both kdeaccessibility-iconthemes and kdeartwork-iconthemes:
/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/status/dialog-warning.svgz exists in both 'kdeaccessibility-iconthemes' and 'kdeartwork-iconthemes'
/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/status/mail-attachment.svgz exists in both 'kdeaccessibility-iconthemes' and 'kdeartwork-iconthemes'
/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/status/mail-task.svgz exists in both 'kdeaccessibility-iconthemes' and 'kdeartwork-iconthemes'
/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/status/object-locked.svgz exists in both 'kdeaccessibility-iconthemes' and 'kdeartwork-iconthemes'
/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/status/object-unlocked.svgz exists in both 'kdeaccessibility-iconthemes' and 'kdeartwork-iconthemes'
/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/status/security-high.svgz exists in both 'kdeaccessibility-iconthemes' and 'kdeartwork-iconthemes'
/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/status/security-low.svgz exists in both 'kdeaccessibility-iconthemes' and 'kdeartwork-iconthemes'
/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/status/security-medium.svgz exists in both 'kdeaccessibility-iconthemes' and 'kdeartwork-iconthemes'
/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/status/user-away.svgz exists in both 'kdeaccessibility-iconthemes' and 'kdeartwork-iconthemes'
/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/status/user-offline.svgz exists in both 'kdeaccessibility-iconthemes' and 'kdeartwork-iconthemes'
/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/status/user-online.svgz exists in both 'kdeaccessibility-iconthemes' and 'kdeartwork-iconthemes'
/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/status/user-trash-full.svgz exists in both 'kdeaccessibility-iconthemes' and 'kdeartwork-iconthemes'
/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/status/wallet-closed.svgz exists in both 'kdeaccessibility-iconthemes' and 'kdeartwork-iconthemes'
/usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/status/wallet-open.svgz exists in both 'kdeaccessibility-iconthemes' and 'kdeartwork-iconthemes'
Is this a packaging issue? Or if not, any way to work around this?
Cheers,
Victor

please use the appropriate thread for [kde-unstable].
There is no kdeaccessibility-iconthemes in [kde-unstable], how are you installing KDE? Did you read the wiki page?

Kicking The KDE Habit

Below is a copy of a post from my blog detailing the apps I used to fully replace KDE. (If you want the hyperlink version you can also read it on my blog.)
A few months ago I dropped Kubuntu and KDE as my desktop and switched to Arch Linux with an Openbox desktop. I've used KDE for years and thought highly of it, but they lost me with KDE 4. But I still had quite a few KDE apps I used in Openbox. With the recent KDE 4.4 update, KDE went from bad to worse, making Akonadi truly required, Nepomuk more troublesome, breaking some of my apps, and other problems. So I decided to drop all KDE dependency. Despite some of the fine KDE apps I still think highly of, like Krusader and Kmail, I simply don't want all the overhead required to run them.
So for the last couple of weeks I've been finding replacements for the last of my KDE apps, particularly Kate, Kmail, Krusader, and k3b. I thought I would share what I found to replace these and other apps, and why I like them. I've written about some of these before but I'll try to make this a fairly complete list in itself. After trying various apps, these are the ones I chose.
Arch Linux
I already wrote about My Big Move To Arch and The Followup. Briefly, I really like the Arch way of doing things. Rolling release means there are no upgrades to do every year. Instead anytime you update packages you get the very latest. Occassionally this will break something. I find it's good to do an update when I'm prepared to spend a few minutes addressing any issues. It's also good to have a system backup. But in general I like fixing things a little at a time, instead of upgrading the whole system as is done with Ubuntu releases. I also like having access to the latest packages, and Arch has a great community build system for apps that aren't included in the official repos. So I'm very happy with Arch and I highly recommend it for anyone reasonably familiar with a distro like Ubuntu who wants to run a more customized, faster system.
Openbox and LXDE
LXDE is a great desktop which includes Openbox as its window manager, and some lightweight apps. You can also just use Openbox by itself and install other components to go with it. You edit XML files to construct your menu and add shortcut keys to do whatever you like, and add any components you want. For example, I use the excellent lxpanel as my taskbar in Openbox. It works and looks a lot like KDE3's taskbar.
Claws
After asking around, I decided to give Claws Mail a try as a replacement for the very capable Kmail. I am extremely pleased with it, and in some ways like it better than Kmail. It has most of Kmail's features. It handles HTML email a bit differently – can't send it, and converts incoming to text. This works pretty well. There is also a plugin that allows you to display HTML email but I haven't tried that – no need. It has very capable filtering, account handling, and a great UI.
Note: If you switch from Kmail, you can transfer your email as follows. Save a copy of your ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail folder. Rename all the mail files in it (using your favorite rename utility) so they have simple names like "001″, "002″, etc. Claws doesn't seem to like the semicolons and such that Kmail uses for filenames. Then, in Claws select File|Add Mailbox and specify the copy of your mail folder. All the mail will appear in Claws – look in the "cur" subfolders for the messages. Drag or copy the messages from there to your Claws mailbox folders. Then you can right-click on the mailbox you added and select Remove Mailbox. All done! Claws can also read the vcard address book format exported by Kmail, or saved in ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc
PCMan File Manager
This FM, which is the default for the LXDE desktop, is the one I finally chose after reviewing a bunch of File Managers. It has support for multiple tabs which I find very useful. It does not have twin-pane like Krusader, but I find that less important, and I didn't care for the other twin-pane FMs I reviewed. One thing I missed in PCMan is user-definable functions. So I have written a mod for PCMan which adds these in a very flexible way, and also fixes a few other issues and bugs I encountered. With that mod in place, I'm very happy with this FM. It is simpler than Krusader, but I didn't actually use most of the functions in Krusader, so it's nice having a cleaner UI. This runs a lot like the Konqueror FM in KDE3. Thunar is also a notable mention – a simpler FM with a clean UI.
Bluefish
This a very Kate-like syntax-highlighting editor. I was very glad to find this editor, with a recently released version 2, because I wasn't sure what I'd find to replace Kate. It has some excellent features and some improvements on Kate as well. It's an almost perfect editor. You might also check out SciTE as another alternative to Kate.
GQView
Similar to Gwenview, GQView is a very capable image viewer. It's folder view is great – actually an improvement on Gwenview in some ways.
ePDFviewer
While not a full replacement for all the functionality of Ocular, I found ePDFviewer to be a nice lightweight app that does all I wanted – it lets me view and print PDF files.
XArchiver
I've already mentioned this replacement for Ark – it does the job.
XPad
A terrific replacement for KNotes – adds sticky notes to your desktop. Very similar to KNotes in functionality and appearance, and minimal dependencies.
ROXTerm
This was my choice to replace Konsole. Has similar features and appearance – came highly recommended on the Arch Forums.
SMPlayer and VLC
My multimedia players, these do the job!
Deluge
After reviewing a few of them, this was my replacement for KTorrent. A vast improvement!
GHex2
GHex is Gnome's hex editor, and it's one the best IMO as a general, easy-to-use hex editor.
gFTP
This gnome FTP client seems to survive on my system. Although I've tried others, I keep coming back to this because it 'just works'.
Speedcrunch
A simple yet powerful desktop calculator.
Graveman
I was planning to use Brasero as my replacement for k3b, but it couldn't use my DVD drive correctly. Graveman, once I gave it the device name "/dev/scd0″ in preferences, does the job. A nice lightweight burning app with almost no dependencies.
Import
Part of Imagemagick, the import command can be used to take desktop snapshots, similar to KSnapshot. It works great. I simply associated the following command with the "Print" key (Printscreen) in Openbox's rc.xml:
bash -c "import /tmp/screenshot-$(date +%s).png"
When I press the PrintScreen key, the mouse cursor changes to a target. I click on the window I want and a snap is written to /tmp. Very slick. Import can do other things like take multiple snapshots, etc.
Zim
I've mentioned Zim before as a personal desktop wiki. I still think its handy but a recent update messed up the theme handling and some other issues. I realized having my notes in plain text format is less volatile, so I've gone back to that. This was easy since Zim mostly uses a plain text format for storage. But Zim may still be worth checking out.
Zenity
Similar to the old KDialog but much more capable, Zenity lets you add GUI dialogs to your scripts. A good guide is here.
With these changes, I was finally able to remove kdelibs and all its junk – soprano, nepomuk, akonadi, strigi, phonon, etc. I am KDE free. To give you an idea of just how bloated and over-dependent KDE has become look what I would have to install just to install a simple file manager like Krusader:
Targets (17): clucene-0.9.21b-1 strigi-0.7.2-1 libiodbc-3.52.7-3
virtuoso-6.1.0-1 soprano-2.4.0.1-1 qca-2.0.2-2
polkit-qt-0.95.1-1 phonon-gstreamer-4.3.80-2 phonon-4.3.80-2
shared-desktop-ontologies-0.2-1 attica-0.1.2-1 kdelibs-4.4.0-4
oxygen-icons-4.4.0-1 rarian-0.8.1-1 libssh-0.4.1-1
kdebase-runtime-4.4.0-3 krusader-2.0.0-3
Total Download Size: 73.75 MB
Total Installed Size: 205.80 MB
Proceed with installation? [Y/n] NO THANKS
So long KDE… have a nice trip becoming a Windows 7 clone.
ps: I'm still looking for a GUI replacement for Filelight, which was great for showing a graphical representation of disk usage. Also, I could use an audio CD ripping app since Graveman doesn't fully replace k3b. Haven't really looked yet but if anyone has a suggestion its appreciated. Thanks.
Last edited by IgnorantGuru (2010-02-23 19:00:51)

Labello wrote:i don't really get your point in arguing that some things in KDE changed
I don't mean to dis KDE for everyone - I'm just speaking for myself and my uses. I have a fast system and KDE runs fine in that sense. It has had some RAM and bug issues and certainly isn't lightweight, but that wasn't really my issue. I'm more troubled with their recent choices of servers (akonadi, soprano, phonon, nepomuk, etc), the security issues they introduce, the bugs and interoperability problems, and the wholly unnecessary drain on CPU and RAM. I like to run a leaner, lighter system not just to save resources, but also because I like to know what's running and why, and I like to have control of my system. To me KDE keeps going more toward the Windows direction of isolating the user from control of the system, dictating what has to be running, etc. Many of the so-called dependencies aren't required for most apps at all. Plus, my and other's bug reports are just not addressed in KDE - they've become sloppy, Windows-style, with their code. I see KDE heading in a direction I don't like, and fast. So I wanted to get free of dependency on it so as it goes deeper into that, I can go elsewhere. Took me a bit of work but I've accomplished that. Not only that, I've discovered some great apps in the process - my new system rocks.
You can check out the Library on my blog for my Big Move To Arch post and the followup, which gets more into some of the reasons, and also this thread.
If KDE still works for you and others, great. Lots of choices. I just advise people to be careful with KDE because I think it's getting sneaky and not very pro-user about things. Good to know when to abandon a sinking ship. I think the Ubuntu approach, Gnome, and KDE engender dependencies, in the sense of user dependencies. For example, it took me awhile to move off the KDE platform because so many of the apps I used were in it. I think stand alone apps are a better approach overall. KDE is becoming like a members-only country club - you've got to adopt their complete philosophy just to use any of the KDE apps, or God forbid, the desktop.
Oh and I loathe Plasma. It's everything I DON'T want in a desktop. So KDE just didn't fit me well anymore.

The kde-unstable 4.4 issues/discussion thread

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