Tif compression?

Can I compress tis with Aperture? I know that there are diffrent schools of thought on compresssing tifs but I sometimes need to fit images on on cd or dvd for a client. I cannot find this option in Apertures export. Is it there?

I've looked for it and have not found a compression choice. HOWEVER if you make an 8bit tif with Aperture and compare it with a tif made of the same file in Photoshop you will notice very serious problems with the shadow detail in the Aperture version.
If you ask Aperture for a 16 bit tif instead you get a much better result. Until you convert that 16bit tif to 8bit for production at which point it falls apart just as badly as the original 8bit did.
These are not subtle or esoteric flaws either.
Additionally, before you do any of these conversions be aware that Aperture will convert ALL of your output, except for PSD's, to sRGB color space by default. You've got to dig around in the dropdown menus of the Output command to change the settings.
So in my opinion, until they fix this you don't want to use Aperture to make tifs anyway.
Good luck,
fp

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If you are editing tif files, then you have only a couple of choices.
Flatten the image before you save it. This will reduce it down to one layer. That's the smallest you can get.
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If you are editing tif files, then you have only a couple of choices.
Flatten the image before you save it. This will reduce it down to one layer. That's the smallest you can get.
When you first open the image, look to see if it's 8 bit or 16 bit tif. It won't help you, but if the image is 8 bit, and you save it as 16 bit, you will have dramatically increased the size of the file for nothing. If it's started as 16, no worries!
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Cheers!

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Hello, I've trouble to saving image in tif format with jpeg compression method.
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Luca

I know very well the difference betwin a background layer and transparent layer...
I'm writing about a bug, or interference from something, when I want saving an image in tiff format with jpeg compression.
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Hi all,
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http://s11.postimage.org/7wl195w8z/graybug.png
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TIA,
Costas

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i'm having trouble viewing large tif files in preview. the tif files are on a cdrom - when i click on the file to open it, it opens only the first 250 pages of the file. the file has approximately 3,000 pages. how can i get preview to open the rest of the pages?
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mac mini Mac OS X (10.4.6)

no trick - i didn't create the cdrom but it only has 3 tif files with approximately 3000 pages each, not 3000 large tif files. plus several smaller pdf files, but those aren't giving me any problems.
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