TIFF images in PDF documents

Just looking for a short answer, no technical details needed: Is it possible to store TIFF images in PDF documents without losing information?
Thank you in advance,
k.

>On my own computer it seems I only have options to save it as jpg or zip internally.
That's correct. The PDF specification supports many more forms of
compression. Than this.
> Can't find any options to save it as TIFF internally.
That's correct. A PDF image is stored as a collection of pixels NOT as
an embedded graphic format.
The collection of pixels may be compressed according to one of many
compression schemes. There is JPEG (internally called DCTDecode) and
ZIP (internally called FlateDecode). FlateDecode is completely
lossless, so if what you are concerned about is loss of picture
quality, this is the one to use.
A ZIP compressed PDF is typically going to be about the same size as
the corresponding ZIP compressed TIFF.
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