Time Machine Back Up Size

I have just made a Time Machine back up to a NAS server, and so have been keeping a watch on the subsequent back-ups. I was a little suprised to see that the back-up immediatly following the initial one showed a size of over 1.5GB! There had been no significant changes made on my iMac so I just wonder why this would be so large?

oakie23 wrote:
Hi, and welcome to the forums.
I have just had my hard drive replaced and successfully restored form time machine.
That means TIme Machine's next backup will be a full one -- everything you just put on your internal HD will be backed-up again: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1338
I then deleted a few old back ups from finder ( not a good Idea).
Correct. Your backups may be corrupted, perhaps hopelessly. Run a +*Repair DIsk+* on them per #A5 in the Time Machine - Troubleshooting *User Tip* at the top of this forum.
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Do you mean the figure underneath the +Do not back up+ box in TM Preferences > Options? If so, there must be something else attached to your Mac like another external HD, or perhaps you're running FileVault?
2. When I click on time machine the time machine screen default to places, desktop, how to I get it to look at my mac?
What you see there depends on how you get there. Start with a Finder window looking at, say, your home folder, before you click the TM icon in your Dock. For more detail, see #15 in the
Frequently Asked Questions *User Tip* at the top of this forum.

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