Time machine question please. (Mavericks)

When TM begins a backup (not the initial but a normal everyday backup; when you get the initial progress bar, I believe I understand correctly that TM is reading the hard drive for changes since the last backup.
My question concerns the changeover on the progress bar when TM begins the actual backup for what it has found changed. The numbers change at the instant the backup begins to what I believe is the total amount of what TM has found and is backing up.
Now as the backup continues the progress bar of course shows the backup progress and the number amount of the backup decreases as I watch.
What happens is that whatever the total is showing for the backup being done, the backup ALWAYS ends somewhere short of that amount. For example I could be showing a 2GB backup in progress, but the progress ends and the backup shows complete at say 1.2GB.
I'd really like to understand what is actually happening here. The backups seem normal when I check TM on the "My Passport" that I'm using. But WHY doesn't the backup progress on my backups continue on to the actual amount showing as the total backup being transfered to the drive?
Many thanks if someone can help me understand this process a bit better.
Dudley Henriques
2013 Macbook Air, Mavericks all updates current. TM drive is a 500GBWD My Passport. All hardware checked and ok. Plenty of room on the external drive and all systems are normal.

Ah so !! "Estimated" is the word of the day and seems to solve everything.
So all IS normal, and there is once again peace in the valley.
Thank you very much for your time and expertise. I really appreciate these forums.
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship

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