TM not showing the drive connected to Airport Extreme....

Hi
I've been backing up to a USB drive connected to Airport Extreme since I installed Leopard with no problem.. Since 10.5.6 it stopped working. I ended up erasing the drive, reformatting it, reseting the Airport Extreme, repair permissions, used Onyx and Applejack and still this is what I'm getting:
When I go select the drive from the TM prefs. it doesn’t show. If I connect it to the laptop first. accept the TM offer to use it as its HD and connect it back to the Airport. I can mount the drive but when trying to start a manual back up. TM gives me the msg. “The back up volume is not in Mac OS Extended (journaled) format which is required”. I formated the drive one more time, just in case and same thing. Last I did a full back up with another drive having it connected directly to the USB port and it worked fine.
I am running all this from my main Admin profile with file vault enable. I have another Admin profile without the file vault enable as an emergency because of a past experience and don’t really use it. and I have the guest acc. enabled.
Does anyone have any ideas??
Thank you.

backups to directly attached drives work differently (and are stored differently) from network backups. they are not interchangeable. also, while in the past TM backups to air disks worked, they are not officially supported by apple so it's possible that 10.5.6 update broke that functionality. You can try the following terminal command which helps to show unsupported volumes.
defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolumes 1
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