Touch Panel et compact RIO

Bonjour,
Je suis en stage chez DCNS, et je dois réaliser une valise de tests de relais avec un compact RIO 9024 et un Touch Panel TPC 2106
J'ai réussi à faire fonctionner le Touch Panel avec mon PC, le compact RIO avec le PC mais maintenant je voudrai qu'il fonctionnent de manière autonome entre eux (le Touch panel devant réaliser l'interface graphique et lire/envoyer les données de/sur le compact RIO?
Quels type de brancement réaliser? Configs?
Merci d'avance

Translation
Hello,
I am in training at DCN, and I must carry a suitcase relay tests with a
compact RIO 9024 and TPC 2106 Touch Panel I managed to run the Touch
Panel with my PC, the compact RIO PC but
now I want it run independently of them (the touch panel to make the
graphical interface and read / send data from / on the compact RIO?
What type branca achieve? Configs? Thanks in advance
French board

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Bonjour,
Je suis face à un petit problème qui pourrait devenir génant.
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Jusque là, pour la programmation, j'avais connecté mon PC, le Touch Panel et le compact à un hub ethernet, et cela me permettait d'envoyer les programmes correspondant, sur le Touch Panel et le Compact RIO via le PC de développement, et de tester si le Touc Panel et lme compact RIO communiquaient bien ensemble. Jusque là pas de problème tout fonctionne. Mais lorsque je déconnecte le PC du hub (et donc du réseau, ce qui sera la configuration finale = juste une relation entre le compact RIO et le Touch Panel), la communication ne se fait plus!!!!
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Bonjour,
En effet, la configuration du CompactRIO ne pourra se faire que sur le port 1. En revanche, il doit être possible d'établir une communication entre le Touch Panel et le cRIO par le second port.
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Bonjour,
Je suis en stage chez DCNS, et je dois réaliser une valise de tests de relais avec un compact RIO 9024 et un Touch Panel TPC 2106
J'ai réussi à faire fonctionner le Touch Panel avec mon PC, le compact RIO avec le PC mais maintenant je voudrai qu'il fonctionnent de manière autonome entre eux (le Touch panel devant réaliser l'interface graphique et lire/envoyer les données de/sur le compact RIO?
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pour compléter, sur la notion Embedded VS dit embarqué
MaximeR a écrit :
Si ta tablette est un tablette Windows (classique pas embedded),
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