Traffic Shaping on Sub-interfaces

Hi all,
On my network i am trying to give preference to certain traffic type A over another traffice type B  over a VSAT link.
the VSAT link is about 64Kbps/64Kbps and this link is connected to a router subinterface.
I initially thought of CBWFQ to reserve bandwidth for the differenct traffic types but there are restrictions to using CBWFQ on Sub interfaces.
Hence I tot of the option of shaping the less preffered traffic to a less than half the bandwidth  say 24K will be a good idea however i worry that the contents of the shaping queue will constitute both the preffered traffic and the less preffered traffic hence introducing more delay to the more preffered traffic. which is not required.
Any other better ways to achieve this?

You can use hierarchical qos:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk543/tk545/technologies_tech_note09186a0080114326.shtml

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    I was told that you need to apply a shaping policy in order for QoS to always be engaged and not simply during times of congestion.
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