Transportable tablespaces for migration and upgrade

Hello All,
I'm trying to find out some theory about transportable tablespace and upgrade in a single step. I've to move a DB from a Windows server to a Linux server. Win is running 10.1 and Linux 10.2 . It's possible to use RMAN to migrate the whole database and then on new node run startup upgrade and catupgrd.sql to upgrade catalog ?
Should work?
Thanks
Raj

The following doc for TDB says :-
"Note: TDB requires the same Oracle Database software version on the source and target systems; hence, a database upgrade cannot be accomplished simultaneous with the platform migration. However, best practices for a database upgrade, as documented in the Oracle Upgrade Companion, also apply to any planned database maintenance activity, including platform migration."
http://www.oracle.com/technology/deploy/availability/pdf/MAA_WP_10gR2_PlatformMigrationTDB.pdf
There is also an Oracle Whitepaper called "Database Upgrade Using Transportable Tablespaces: Oracle Database 11g Release 1" but I am still trying to find a copy.

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    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:07 PM]: *******************************
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:07 PM]: Execute SQLs-C:\Oracle\MW\EPMSystem11R1\products\Planning\config\sql\11_1_1_1Migration_SQLServer.sql
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:07 PM]: *******************************
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:07 PM]: Updated Version and Release.
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: *******************************
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: 11.1.1.1 to 11.1.1.2
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: *******************************
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: Execute SQLs-C:\Oracle\MW\EPMSystem11R1\products\Planning\config\sql\11_1_1_2Migration_SQLServer.sql
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: *******************************
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: Executed line number1
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    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: Updated Version and Release.
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: *******************************
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: 11.1.1.2 to 11.1.1.3
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: *******************************
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: Execute SQLs-C:\Oracle\MW\EPMSystem11R1\products\Planning\config\sql\11_1_1_3Migration_SQLServer.sql
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: *******************************
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: Executed line number1
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: Updated Version and Release.
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: *******************************
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: 11.1.1.3 to 11.1.2.0
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: *******************************
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: Execute SQLs-C:\Oracle\MW\EPMSystem11R1\products\Planning\config\sql\11_1_2_0Migration_SQLServer.sql
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: *******************************
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:08 PM]: Executed line number1
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    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:09 PM]: Updated Version and Release.
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    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:09 PM]: ...SQL_ADD_ROOT_PM_MBRS_IN_HSP_OBJECT (ms): 15
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:09 PM]: ...SQL_ADD_PM_MEMBER_IN_HSP_OBJECT (ms): 171
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:10 PM]: ...SQL_ADD_PM_MEMBER_IN_HSP_MEMBER (ms): 155
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:10 PM]: ...SQL_ADD_PM_MEMBER (ms): 78
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    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:10 PM]: PM definition migration...success
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:10 PM]: PM definition migration ended in (ms): 976
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:10 PM]: *******************************
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:10 PM]: 11.1.2.0 to 11.1.2.1
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:10 PM]: *******************************
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:10 PM]: Execute SQLs-C:\Oracle\MW\EPMSystem11R1\products\Planning\config\sql\11_1_2_1Migration_SQLServer.sql
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:10 PM]: *******************************
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:10 PM]: Executed line number1
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    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:11 PM]: Updated CSS URL (EIE_SERVER) successfully in HSP_SYSTEMCFG table.
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:11 PM]: Migrating all user identities...
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:11 PM]: Getting updated user/group identities from CSS:
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:11 PM]: Total Identities sent to update: 163
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:11 PM]: Ambiguous entries Count:0
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:11 PM]: Ignored entries Count:0
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:11 PM]: Identical entries Count:1
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:11 PM]: Updated entries Count:0
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:11 PM]: Deleted entries Found. Count = 162. Either the users/groups were deprovisioned or the security provider is not configured/reachable. The identities for these will not be updated.
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:11 PM]: Successfully migrated all user identities.
    [Aug 2, 2011 11:59:11 PM]: Successfully migrated the application PC_HPx1 to current version.
    Edited by: Markus on Aug 3, 2011 3:22 AM
    Edited by: Markus on Aug 3, 2011 3:41 AM

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    We are planning to migrate the data center to new location. The new data center already have the hard ware. We have to move the data dump and upgrade the Database. Our most DB are on Oracle
    10g Solar UNIX and the new hardware is on Oracle 11.2.0.4 with Linux (Oracle or Redhat Linux). The following activity needs to be done:
    1) Taking the export on existing database.
    2) Moving the export dump to new location, along with the archived data which is stored in the tape. (this is where a suggestion required most on different ways of doing that).
    3) Importing and upgrading the database in new location.
    Could some one please suggest the strategy and helpful tool which for performing this activity.

    Are you expected to move all 100+ databases in a 48 hour window with datapump ? That is a tall order
    What is the network capacity (i.e. how fat is the pipe) between the two locations and how far apart are they ? Typically, there should be no data loss or corruption when transferring files over a network. The time required to move/upgrade a 300G database can only be determined by performing a test upgrade that closely resembles production environment.
    HTH
    Srini

  • Lightroom Migration and Upgrade

    I have Lightroom 3 on my existing Windows XP PC, and I now have a new Windows 8 PC that I want to migrate to.  As part of the switch I want to upgrade to LR4, so I am planning to buy an upgrade version of LR4.
    Do I have to install LR3 on the new PC before I can install the upgrade licence, or is just having the existing serial number sufficient?
    If I have to install LR3 first, what is the process for migrating it from one PC to another?
    Thanks
    Mike

    Moving this discussion to the Photoshop Lightroom forum.

  • Separate tablespaces for indexes and LOBs

    I have modeled my db tables with jDeveloper. Now I would like to store my tables in default tables, my indexes in a separate tablespace, and LOBs in a 3rd tablespace.
    How can I best add the tablespace definitions to the table creation sql? I can't find such functionality in jDeveloper.
    If jDev does not support this, does Oracle have some other tools which could do this?
    Or can I set some ALTER SESSION parameter before creating the tables which would make my indexes and LOBs go to the correct tablespaces by default?

    I see jDeveloper 11g has a possibility for specifying tablespaces for the tables and LOBs.
    I cant figure out how to set tablespaces for indexes though. I can tell there is definately no way to set tablespace settings for primary key / foreign key indexes.
    So jDev 11g does not seem to solve my problem either.

  • Cross Platform Migration and upgrade of 8i database

    Hello Team:
    Just wanted to check with you on what is the best approach to migrate a 8i database ( Currently on HP Unix PA Risc 64 bit ) to 11gR2 ( Linux x86 - 64 bit ) . The source database is on 8.1.7 and is currently 400 GB. Please note that the endian format for source and destination OS are different. Given this situation what would be the best approach.
    Regards,
    Bala

    Thanks Srini.
    The exact version of the Database is :
    Source Database : 8.1.7.0.0 ( DB Size is 450 GB )
    Target Database : 11.2.0.3 ( RHEL 5.0 64 Bit )
    I did an export of the source database and export dump was 150GB in size. Now I dont know how long will it take to do the import in 11g.
    24 hour downtime would be my best bet.
    I dont know how much long it will take to import the whole database. Here is what I am thinking to do.
    1. Export the Data , metadata without the constraints and indexes
    2. Import the Database into the target database.
    Regards,
    Bala

  • MIGRATION AND UPGRADE NOT IN PLACE

    We are in processes to migrate from two box to new one.
    FROM
    1) AIX 4.3.3 32b 8.1.7.4 32b
    2) AIX 4.3.3 64b 9.2.0.5 64b
    TO
    3) AIX 5.1 64b 9.2.0.6 64b
    After reading the following notes: 210073.1 223521.1 159657.1 from Metalink.
    I understand this is the migration path:
    a) 8.1.7 32b aix 433 32b -> move DFs(clone)-> 8.1.7 32b aix 5L 64b
    b) 8.1.7 32b aix 5l 64b -> migrate in place->9.2.0.6 64b aix 5L 64b
    c) 9.2.0.5 64b aix 433 64b -> move DFs(clone) -> AIX 5L 64b
    d) 9.2.0.5 64b aix 5L 64b -> upgrade in place -> 9.2.0.6 64b AIX 5L 64b
    Here! I have some questions:
    - The obvious: THIS IS A RIGHT PATH!?
    - I really need open the database with 8.1.7.4 32b AIX 5.1 after upgrade to 9.2.0.6?
    - Could be possible, applies the upgrade directly on the 8.1.7.4 32b DFs on AIX 5.1?
    - The same questions to 9.2.0.5 64b AIX 4.3.3 64b.
    - Coexists with the pw-syscall64 (required for 8.1.7 32b AIX 5L) and the 9.2 software on AIX 5L.
    Tx in advance,
    DL.

    Hi Chris,
    You are right sir, it is definitely an add-on install that requires a separate installation & license key, in order to utilize the functionality. I would see if the two notes that Sebastian suggested does the trick. However, I know you said they weren't installed previously, they might still reside down there and can at least get rid of the icon for you.
    If that doesn't work, I would second your notion of what you stated, try to install the base 4.1 install first. My suggestion would be to uninstall it and clear out everything in the install directory, make sure nothing is left behind (If you're comfortable with it, I'd also suggest clearing out relevant entries in the registry. Some people don't like to do it, I'll only suggest it, if you're comfortable with it). Deploy the webapps into the Tomcat server, after the base 4.1 install, pull up the BI Launch Pad, and see if the same icon appears.
    At least, this way, you can get an idea if something is going on with the base install versus the SP1 upgrade. If nothing else, until a definitive solution is found, you can always ensure that users don't have explicit permissions to that application.
    Hopefully one of the two does the trick for you.
    -Victor

  • New-GL Migration and Upgrade together is possible??

    Dear NewGL gurus.
    Currently, our customer who uses SAP Enterprise version is
    considering to do the upgrade from Enterprise to 6.0
    and migration to New-GL at the same time with migration scenario 4.
    I knew that "SAP strongly recommends the migration as independent project".
    But, as long as I read the documents, it seems possible technically.
    So, my questions are
    1. If this customer does the upgrade and migration at the same time,
      can they take SAP Migration Service from SAP AG properly?
    2. SAP mentioned the reasons for this strong recommendation
    such as
    - 'migration is not only technical transfer'
    - 'migration is conceptual change'.
    However, I think the same thing can be said for upgrade project as well.
    So, is there any other reasons for this recommendation?
    BR
    Yoshitada Kaneko

    Dear Yoshitada Kaneko
    Please also go through with below notes for more information.
    Please also refer the FAQ note and below links
    1070629
    812919    SAP ERP new general ledger: Migration
    1337521   safety delta in incremental work list update for phase 1
    1171402   Compatibility IS-M/SD with General Ledger Accounting (new)
    1072121   New general ledger migration: What is covered by Support?
    1039752   New G/L migration: Restrictions and important information
    1014369   NewGL migration: Availability of Development Support
    1014364   New G/L migration: Information, prerequisites, performance
    824995    LCC: Gen. questions/answers about local currency changeover
    Please refer the more information at "/glmig" at service market place
    http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/x/JghNCw
    Reg
    Madhu M

  • E-Business Suite R12.1 on Exadata with Database Rel 12c - Upgrade and Migrate, or Migrate and Upgrade

    Given:
    E-Business Suite R12.1 running against non-RAC database release 11gR2
    Aspiration:
    E-Business Suite R12.1 running against database release 12c RAC on Exadata
    In the context of Oracle best practices, what would be a preferred approach for the database tier to meet the above aspiration, i.e. (a) Upgrade database on source and then migrate to Exadata OR (b) Migrate database to Exadata and then upgrade ?
    Appreciate thoughts from community members/Oracle support.
    Thanks,
    Rakesh

    Rakesh,
    It is necessary to refine Srini's statement:
    EBS does not need to be "certified" on Exadata.  See:
    Running E-Business Suite on Exadata V2
    https://blogs.oracle.com/stevenChan/entry/e-business_suite_exadata_v2
    E-Business Suite 11i, 12.0, and 12.1 are certified with Database 12.1.0.1.
    E-Business Suite 12.2 will be certified with Database 12.1.0.1 soon.
    Regards,
    Steven Chan
    Applications Technology Group Development

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