Triggering the reading of counter totals (PCI 6602)

Hi,
thanks for reading these lines,
for a special application I need to read the totals of multiple counters
simoltanouesly. The inputs of the counters are connected to quadrature encoders.
Is there a way to reroute the gate to another input pin?
Thanks for taking the time to support me.
live long and prosper
Michael

Dear Jochen,
(1) Principally, I'd like to use PCI-6602 to be a motion encoder also be a counter (Is it possible? Due to the manual, it is possible). I expect to have all information, such as position, time, velocity, etc. from that motion encoder (or at least the position and time). It is also expected of using PCI-6602 to do all measurements that I mentioned before . My meaning is, after having a signal from the counter, that 'count' will be converted to desire units under other programs. So, in this case, PCI-6602 is only used to get the 'count'.
Simplified, the voltage command will send to the system (linear motor) through PCI-6052E (-10V to 10V). The actual position or other actual information will be catched (read) by using PCI-6602 (as a motion encoder, also as a counter). Then, this actual position will be used as a feedback, that will be compared to desired position.
Is that also possible to use PCI-6602 be a motion controller + a counter + a frequency measurement in a same time parallely?
I don't decide yet (I don't know) which acquisition rate will be needed/required, higher is better.
(2) I'd like to apply an adaptive robust controller (yes, it is a closed loop system) under matlab with their feature called Real-Time-Workshop instead of using LV.
(3) Power drive for the linear system will be driven by AC servo drive.
Thanks for your help before,
Warmly regards,
hendro

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Count digital events on a Counter with pci-6602 with callback on CVI

Hi,
I'm using a PCI-6602 card with CVI 8.5 and I need to trig on event.
On every pulse I received, I need to do some actions like increasing a counter, send a message on Rs232 etc.. I don't want to do any loop checking that the counter value has changed. I would like to use a callback to execute this code only on the edge or counter value event.
My problem is that I don't know which function can do this. Is there any way to get an event on a pci-6602?
Thanks
James
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Hello.
It's completely possible to create a callback that will allow you to do what you want when a edge will occur on an external signal you define.
To do this, you can for exemple create a counting edges task that will use one of the 6602 counters,and the set your external signal to be the source of your sample clock.You'll then be able to register a callback with the function DAQmxRegisterSignalEvent, and your callback will be called each time an edge will occur on your specified sample clock source.
Here's 2 links that explain the events in DAQmx and how to handle them in CVI. The example ReadDigChan-ChangeDetectionEvent.pr that ships with DAQmx examples (Hardware Input and Output<<DAQmx<<Digital measurements) can be very useful to understand how to do. This example creates a signal event callback to detect change detection for digital inputs.
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Counter using PCI-6602 for multi output

Hi guys,
currently I tried to control a linearmotor using PCI-6052E and PCI-6602.
The questions is, how to use PCI-6602 to be a counter which will be converted to several output (multioutput):
(1) converted to position >> 1count = ...[mm] --> position measurement
(2) converted to voltage >> 1count = ...[mV] or [V] --> voltage measurement
(3) converted to current >> 1count = ...[mA] or [A] --> current measurement
(4) converted to velocity >> 1count = ...[mm/s] --> velocity measurement
(5) converted to acceleration >> 1count = ...[mm/s^2] --> acceleration measurement
(6) converted to force >> 1count = ...[N] or [kg.mm/s^2] --> force/load measurement
(7) converted to frequency >> 1count=...[Hz] --> frequency measurement
(i) Please assist me how to connect the driver's encoder (Ch. A A/ B B/ Z Z/) with PCI-6602, so I can get all informations above (7 measurements). What/which port of PCI-6602 connect to where from the driver.
(ii) Please assist me how to connect the feedback signal to the PC. What/which port of PCI-6602 connect to PC.
(iii) How to test those 7 measurements above using Measuremant and Automation Explorer (MAX) ver.4.4.1?
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Best wishes,
hendro

Dear Jochen,
(1) Principally, I'd like to use PCI-6602 to be a motion encoder also be a counter (Is it possible? Due to the manual, it is possible). I expect to have all information, such as position, time, velocity, etc. from that motion encoder (or at least the position and time). It is also expected of using PCI-6602 to do all measurements that I mentioned before . My meaning is, after having a signal from the counter, that 'count' will be converted to desire units under other programs. So, in this case, PCI-6602 is only used to get the 'count'.
Simplified, the voltage command will send to the system (linear motor) through PCI-6052E (-10V to 10V). The actual position or other actual information will be catched (read) by using PCI-6602 (as a motion encoder, also as a counter). Then, this actual position will be used as a feedback, that will be compared to desired position.
Is that also possible to use PCI-6602 be a motion controller + a counter + a frequency measurement in a same time parallely?
I don't decide yet (I don't know) which acquisition rate will be needed/required, higher is better.
(2) I'd like to apply an adaptive robust controller (yes, it is a closed loop system) under matlab with their feature called Real-Time-Workshop instead of using LV.
(3) Power drive for the linear system will be driven by AC servo drive.
Thanks for your help before,
Warmly regards,
hendro

How do I control the sampling rate of a PCI-6602 counter

Labview version: 7.1
Processor: Pentium 4 1.8 GHz
Hello All,
I have two avalanche photo diodes connected to two counter entrances on a 6602 (ctr 0 and ctr 1).
As can be seen in the attached VI, I'm generating a signal on ctr2 and using that as an external clock for the counters.
My objective is to accurately read the counter values at a rate of ~100KHz (i.e. 0.01 ms between measurements) and to be able to control the rate via the front panel. This should be possible (80MHz timebase), however when I run the program it is only able to actually sample at ~5 ms intervals. Also I'm encountering error 200141 even though I set the rate in the counter to 1M, which should buffer enough.
What am I doing wrong? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks a lot,
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FRET_ver_14.vi ‏456 KB

Hello Aadam,
After looking at your code, I would not use the DAQ assistants to implement this. The DAQ assistant are best to be used for simple acquistion and since you are looking to use more lower level properties of you card, I would suggest to move to use the lower level VIs. It will be easier to understand where the problem is occurring at and will run better than using the DAQ assistant.
I have done some initial research for you to implement this design. I have described each of them below and how they will assist you.
The first example I have found is the Change Counter Output Frequency While the Task is Running. In this example, it will show you how to change the frequency and duty cycle of a counter output frequency task. One thing to remember about these counters are that the frequency will not change until the period has finished. For example, if you changed the frequency in the middle of a period of frequency of 1 Hz, it has to complete the 1Hz period before changing it to the next frequency.
The next example I would investgate is in the NI Example Finder called Correlated Dig Write With Counter.vi. The NI Example Finder can be found in Help » Find Examples... This VI will explain how to use the counter as a clock for another task. You will need to combine the concepts of the first example with this to make sure that you can vary the sample clock.
Finally, in the NI Example Finder, there is an example how to count digital events with an external clock called Count Digital Events-Buffered-Continuous-Ext Clk.vi. With this example, I first suggest to add the counter task and make sure you can get the external clock to work. After this, I would then implement changing clock.
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I'd like to use simple event counting using PCI-6602 (DAQmx) with an internally generated trigger pulse.
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How to visualise continues Data aquisition from a PCI 6602 with 2121 BNC connector board in C++ ?

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We are trying to get on the screen the aquired pulses from our PCI 6602 with a 2121 BNC connector board, from several devices. We are able to read the data and save without problem, but we cannot look at it while we are measuring. Anybody has an idea to how program this in C++ ? Any suggestion is welcome!
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Hello!
My problem appeared when I tried to update my code from Traditional NI-DAQ Legacy to DAQmx.
I am using 2 counters (counter 5 and counter 7) from PCI-6602, to generate pulse train, and also the Digital I/O lines of the port 0 (the lines form 0 to 7). What I do in my application is that I am starting to generate the pulse train on the output of the 2 counters, and after that I am playing with the state of the digital lines.
In traditional there was no problem using the counters and the digital lines in the same time, everything was going perfectly, but in DAQmx this is not possible.
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Another thing what I manage to see using the "Measurement & Automation Explorer" and Test panels for PCI-6602, basically is the same thing, I generate pulse train on the output of the counter 7 and try to start a task on the digital line, but I get one error :
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Device: Dev4
Terminal: PFI8"
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Which resources are used by the counters 2 to 7 from the PCI-6602 board and the counters 0 and 1 do not use?
Thank in advance for any replies!
Ciprian
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Hello Jordan, thank you for your reply.
I am sorry but I can not see or run your example, I don't use LabView, I use Visual C++ for developing.
Here is the code for generating the pulse train:
GeneratePulseTrain(unsigned long ulCount1, unsigned long ulCount2)
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    nStatus = DAQmxCreateTask("",&m_taskHandle);
    nStatus = DAQmxCreateCOPulseChanTicks (m_taskHandle, "Dev4/count5", "", NULL, DAQmx_Val_Low, 0.0, ulCount1,ulCount2);
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I tried to do something basic ( ?) with this Counter-Timer 6602 Board, and it doesn’t work.
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I need to generate 4 synchonised clocks, whose periods will be multiple of 1 ms.
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I'm just adding a followup in English. As Marc L. mentioned, the particular vi named "Down Counter or Divider Config" isn't compatible with the 6602. While the 6602 does have the ability to generate 4 synchronized clocks, a different syntax is needed. Here's how I'd do it:
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3. Start the CTR 4 pulsetrain.
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I can't think of any way to accomplish that task. Once the counters have only two input pins, and both are in use when one configures the counter to do buffered measurements, there isn't a way to trigger that operation in hardware.
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I think the bottleneck you are seeing here is a limitation of the dma transfer capabilities that is dependant on the bus of your PC and not your 6602 card. Here is a link of a knowledgebase that you could try to use to see if that would improve your transfer rates. I still doubt you will be able to achieve approximately 5MHz.
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