Tty & Desktop Environment in azerty, but slim in qwerty o_0

Hi Archers
I've a little problem
On my system, TTY arent in azerty, my desktop environment is in azerty too, but slim login is still in qwerty mode...
Do you know how can i fix it ?
Thx !

EvasiveFR wrote:
Hi Archers
I've a little problem
On my system, TTY arent in azerty, my desktop environment is in azerty too, but slim login is still in qwerty mode...
Do you know how can i fix it ?
Thx !
You need to set your keyboard layout in a HAL information file. See the Dvorak Wiki for the relevant instructions, but put azerty there, instead.
Last edited by Wintervenom (2009-07-27 15:45:13)

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