"ugly" fonts on gnome
I've just downloaded packages from gnome and gnome-extra.I don't know how to explain but I thought default fonts of Gnome would look the same in every distro, but here are pretty different with respect to my previous slack installation, even if I always use Sans font. could it depend on xorg configuration?
you could also try dejavufonts. They are an extension of the bitstream-vera fonts
Also, read this: (I used to use LCD packages, now I use the ubuntu ones in AUR)
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts
when I first started using Arch, I didn't realize just how much info is in the WIKI. You can find the solutions (with nice how-tos) to a VERY large portion of ??s you may have when starting out.
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Main_Page
Use the search feature to find pages quickly
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Ugly fonts:
How do I fix this?I like anti-aliasing set to "slight" in Gnome.dpi is 96 see my screenshots and gnome settings :-
gnome font settings(System>Prefernces>Appearance>Fonts)
"details" :-
and I use a "nvidia" gfx card and have below lines in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf section "device" :
Option "DPI" "96 x 96"
^to force dpi -
Hello, I would want to know how I can change the fonts of GTK apps in e17, cause it looks really ugly compared with gnome...
This is my gnome desktop:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4176/pantallazomp4.png
And this my e17 desktop:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8717/2 … 400rm8.png
What can I do?
GreetingsDavigetto wrote:
Hello, I would want to know how I can change the fonts of GTK apps in e17, cause it looks really ugly compared with gnome...
This is my gnome desktop:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4176/pantallazomp4.png
And this my e17 desktop:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8717/2 … 400rm8.png
What can I do?
Greetings
can i be honest?!
imo the fonts in e17 are looking better than on the gnome-shot!
the fonts in gnome are blurred and letters like the "m" look like i'm squinting.
this is my /etc/fonts/local.conf:
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>
<!-- Info at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xorg_and_Fonts -->
<!-- Replace Courier with a better-looking font -->
<match target="pattern" name="family">
<test name="family" qual="any">
<string>Courier</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="assign">
<!-- Other choices - Courier New, Luxi Mono -->
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans Mono</string>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font">
<edit name="rgba" mode="assign">
<const>rgb</const>
</edit>
<edit name="autohint" mode="assign">
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
<edit name="antialias" mode="assign">
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
<edit name="hinting" mode="assign">
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
<edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign">
<const>hintfull</const>
</edit>
</match>
<!-- Disable autohint for bold fonts, otherwise they look *too* bold -->
<match target="font">
<test name="weight" compare="more">
<const>medium</const>
</test>
<edit name="autohint" mode="assign">
<bool>false</bool>
</edit>
</match>
<!-- Reject bitmap fonts in favour of Truetype, Postscript, etc. -->
<selectfont>
<rejectfont>
<pattern>
<patelt name="scalable">
<bool>false</bool>
</patelt>
</pattern>
</rejectfont>
</selectfont>
</fontconfig>
Last edited by iggy (2008-01-11 20:22:03) -
[SOLVED] Ugly fonts :/
Hi,
I dont know why did this happen. I'm a Gnome user and I wanted to take a look on KDE, so I've instaled KDEmod. I didn't have polish language charecters, so I wantet to change the font in KDE (using KDE Settings Tool) while I was switching through fonts and font's options - antialiasing, suddenly the fonts changed to ugly! I logged back to Gnome and its the same! I dont know what happened. When I delete the ~/.gconf I have the same problem, changing fonts in gnome-control-center doesnt help as all fonts there look ugly:
http://matchil.hopto.org/fonts.png
I've deleted the ~/.kde and even ~/.qt but its still the same. I have no idea what is responsible fot this? X11? Or maybe its some update error (I doubt it thou). Please help me as I am freaking out withi this fonts, I want me nice fonts back .
SOLUTION: rm -f ~/.fonts.conf
Last edited by matchil (2007-05-18 12:47:54)I've tried, but fc-cache -vf seems to rebuild the font cache, I've logged in to OpenBox and fonts in OB menu and in OB windows bars looks ok, but the one using gtk/qt no . I dont even know with which config files or setting should I mess with
I've also added a brand new user. I made him start gnome-session -> he has brilant fonts ! So its something in my home dir
Last edited by matchil (2007-05-18 12:39:21) -
Severely ugly fonts in openjdk6 from testing
I have been using icedtea6 from AUR for months now and I just replaced it with openjdk6 from testing. icedtea6 had ugly fonts, but openjdk6 has severely ugly fonts. It's not too horrible with regular fonts, but it is with bold. A good test is the Font2DTest:
java -jar /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk/demo/jfc/Font2DTest/Font2DTest.jar
Does anyone know whether it's possible yet to get good fonts in openjdk6? If so, how?
Last edited by skottish (2008-08-04 18:30:19)Problem is still here in openjdk6, not in jre/jdk.
I think it is related to: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=495988
Our fontconfig.properties.src is correct, but we have no compilefontconfig.jar, so I cannot try what the bug reporter mentioned, "java -jar compilefontconfig.jar fontconfig.config fontconfig.bfc".
In Ubuntu, they added that file in 6b10-1: "* Install compilefontconfig.jar in openjdk-6-jre-lib package."
Should we have that file? -
[SOLVED] Ugly fonts in KDE plamoids
I'm running KDE 4.8 on my Arch 64 box and I've had for a while now ugly fonts in all the plasma widgets I'm running. All the other fonts look nice and smooth in all other places, eg. GTK and QT apps etc. but plasma widget fonts aren't as smooth for some reason. I'm using the infinality patches with the "UBUNTU" setting currently. Any heads up on would be nice...
Many Thanks
Last edited by fettouhi (2012-02-22 17:37:04)kokoko3k wrote:QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=native may help, add it to /etc/environment for a system wide setting
or edit the exec line /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop by adding --graphicssystem native
Dont use the first advice, because you will lose the advantages of raster system system wide. Raster system is faster than native, so apps are snappier with it. The second method is better
Last edited by syms (2012-01-30 18:12:21) -
Recently all my qt programs (even qtconfig itself) has ugly fonts.
It must be some new packages but I dont know which.
I already tired to remove ~/.fonts.conf to restore the defaults, but it remains the same.
Can anyone help?I managed to fix the problem. I created the file "~/.fonts.conf" with
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="hinting" >
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle" >
<const>hintfull</const>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="rgba" >
<const>rgb</const>
</edit>
</match>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="antialias" >
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
</match>
</fontconfig>
and then entered:
fc-cache -vf
and the problem is now resolved. -
Noticed that evince shows ugly fonts for some pdfs, while okular renders them fine. Any way to fix that?
Hi,
This is because of a known bug with poppler. They say it will be fixed in poppler 0.14. If you want to patch the current version of poppler you can use one of the patches here:
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5589
Use "makepkg -o" with the poppler PKGBUILD, apply the patch in the src directory, then do "makepkg -e". This will rebuild poppler, poppler-glib, and poppler-qt packages. For evince, you need to install poppler and poppler-glib.
I was able to patch and build poppler and poppler-glib 0.12.4 with patch #31683, but I had to fix one hunk by hand. This solved the rendering problem.
Or, you can just wait for the updated version of poppler and use xpdf until then. xpdf doesn't have this problem. -
No option to change Window Title Bar Font in gnome-tweak-tool
Hey there,
did a fresh install today on a Haswell-PC. But there's no option to change Window Title Bar Font in gnome-tweak-tool anymore? All the other options are there.
Is there a way to set the Window Title Bar Font elsewhere? Does someone know why this option was removed or is it due to my system somehow? I also don't see this option in the dconf-editor.
Gnome 3.8, all the latest updates, Intel Core i5 with Intel HD 4600 Graphics
Thanks,
oSIRus
Last edited by lohmeyer (2013-07-18 18:27:24)b4nk4i wrote:I thought that maybe this is gnome-tweak-tool obsolete. But if you say few days ago you solved the problem again, than the version of gnome-tweak-tool should work. strange...
Hi,
Didi you solve this issue? I have a similar problem.
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Update of wine 1.3.33 to 1.3.34 = ugly fonts in Steam
I just updated wine on my Arch 64 machine from 1.3.33 to 1.3.34 and now I have ugly fonts in Steam. Does anyone else have that problem now? By the way I'm using infinality patches for freetype2 and lib32-freetype2 on my machine.
Here is the output when I start Steam in a terminal
[af@andre ~]$ env WINEPREFIX="/home/af/.local/share/wineprefixes/steam" wine C:\\windows\\command\\start.exe /Unix /home/af/.local/share/wineprefixes/steam/dosdevices/c:/users/Public/Desktop/Steam.lnk
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fixme:process:GetLogicalProcessorInformation (0x1f20c00,0x33e464): stub
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err:secur32:SECUR32_initSchannelSP TLS library not found, SSL connections will fail
fixme:dwmapi:DwmSetWindowAttribute (0x10098, 2, 0x33d358, 4) stub
fixme:dwmapi:DwmSetWindowAttribute (0x10098, 3, 0x33d364, 4) stub
fixme:dwmapi:DwmSetWindowAttribute (0x10098, 4, 0x33d354, 4) stub
fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot
fixme:toolhelp:Heap32ListFirst : stub
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fixme:alsa:AudioClient_GetMixFormat Don't know what to do with 10000 channels, pretending there's only 2 channels
fixme:alsa:AudioClient_GetMixFormat Don't know what to do with 10000 channels, pretending there's only 2 channels
fixme:alsa:AudioClient_GetMixFormat Don't know what to do with 10000 channels, pretending there's only 2 channels
fixme:alsa:AudioClient_GetMixFormat Don't know what to do with 10000 channels, pretending there's only 2 channels
fixme:alsa:AudioClient_GetMixFormat Don't know what to do with 10000 channels, pretending there's only 2 channels
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fixme:dwmapi:DwmSetWindowAttribute (0x100a2, 3, 0x33d824, 4) stub
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fixme:wbemprox:wbem_locator_ConnectServer 0x1e7dd8, L"ROOT\\CIMV2", (null), (null), (null), 0x00000080, (null), (nil), 0x4b5c638)
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {dff32fea-3331-48da-a272-ccfc238695be} not registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {dff32fea-3331-48da-a272-ccfc238695be} not registered
err:ole:create_server class {dff32fea-3331-48da-a272-ccfc238695be} not registered
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fixme:dwmapi:DwmSetWindowAttribute (0x100aa, 3, 0x33d83c, 4) stub
fixme:dwmapi:DwmSetWindowAttribute (0x100aa, 4, 0x33d82c, 4) stub
fixme:dwmapi:DwmSetWindowAttribute (0x100b6, 2, 0x33d308, 4) stub
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fixme:dwmapi:DwmSetWindowAttribute (0x1010c, 3, 0x33d880, 4) stub
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Fonts configuration Gnome/KDE
I use some programs from KDE in my Gnome desktop and fonts there do not look right.
I tried to solve this and installed KDE Settings app. This solved the KDE fonts problem, but messed up some of my other fonts. I have been playing with it a lot and most of the fonts now look right. In programs, everything is fine, but on web, some of fonts are very ugly. Most of them are fine, but on some pages it looks like no hinting / clearing is used. The problem is in Firefox, when I have allowed pages to use their own font. When this is turned off, all works fine, but fonts look not right everywhere. Chromium does not have this problem at all.
So how can I trace where is the problem and fix this? See images please. Thanks.
Last edited by Raqua (2010-04-02 10:19:11)I tried the DPI thing, but it did not help. I did not tried the font replacement thing, because going through all the fonts and changing them manually is quite a task. There should be some other way.
I tried to remove all my ubuntu font packages from AUR and installing stock, then back again to ubuntu in hope of restoring the settings, but it did not helped.
Thanks for your suggestions anyway. It was working before, so I just want it to get back to the state it was before. Unfortunately my knowledge in fonts is scarce. -
Is it possible to have antialiasing font under gnome and ...
... and Mozilla browsers ? (Firebird, epiphany...)
My gnome is ugly without AAer... yes?
This is the default. Pretty much everything X-based is anti-aliased now. Has been for awhile.
Make sure you either setup your fonts in your browser to ones that will AA, or you set your defaults for Times, Sans, Serif, ect. in /etc/fonts/local.conf to ones that will AA. Otherwise they'll look ugly. -
Hi
I'm having a rough time with getting the font I want using
DW8. I've built a little website www.carltongreen.com and the text
is just plain ugly in my estimation. I'm not understanding the
'css' panel whatsoever. No matter what I try ,I can't get a good
clean font. I'm looking for a font which is NOT bold--as a matter
of fact , I'm looking to to have a font very similar to the font in
this message, but everytime I try to decrease the font weight/size,
it always ends up looking BOLD and horrible. I'm frustrated beyond
belief. Can someone please help me get this problem sorted out?
Thanks
BobHere it is..
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0
Transitional//EN" "
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="
http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
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<!-- TemplateBeginEditable name="doctitle" -->
<title>Carlton-Green Publishing</title>
<!-- TemplateEndEditable --><!--
TemplateBeginEditable name="head" --><!-- TemplateEndEditable
-->
<script language="JavaScript">
function doClock(){ // By Paul Davis - www.kaosweaver.com
var t=new Date(),a=doClock.arguments,str="",i,a1,lang="1";
var month=new Array('January','Jan', 'February','Feb',
'March','Mar', 'April','Apr', 'May','May', 'June','Jun',
'July','Jul', 'August','Aug', 'September','Sep', 'October','Oct',
'November','Nov', 'December','Dec');
var tday= new Array('Sunday','Sun','Monday','Mon',
'Tuesday','Tue',
'Wednesday','Wed','Thursday','Thr','Friday','Fri','Saturday','Sat');
for(i=0;i<a.length;i++) {a1=a
.charAt(1);switch (a.charAt(0)) {
case "M":if ((Number(a1)==3) &&
((t.getMonth()+1)<10)) str+="0";
str+=(Number(a1)>1)?t.getMonth()+1:month[t.getMonth()*2+Number(a1)];break;
case "D": if ((Number(a1)==1) &&
(t.getDate()<10)) str+="0";str+=t.getDate();break;
case "Y":
str+=(a1=='0')?t.getFullYear():t.getFullYear().toString().substring(2);break;
case "W":str+=tday[t.getDay()*2+Number(a1)];break; default:
str+=unescape(a
);}}return str;
</script>
<style type="text/css">
<!--
.style1 {
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 10px;
color: #FFFFFF;
.style2 {color: #FFFFFF}
-->
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div align="center">
<table width="720" border="0" bgcolor="#0166FF">
<tr class="style27">
<th class="style30" scope="col"><div align="right"
class="style29 style1">
<script language="JavaScript">
document.write(doClock("W0","%20","M0","%20","D1","%20","Y0"));
</script>
</div></th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><div align="center">
<table width="720" border="0">
<tr>
<th colspan="4" align="center" valign="top"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF" scope="col"><p><img
src="../images/carltonGreen_logo.jpg" width="720" height="100"
/></p>
<table width="100%" border="0">
<tr>
<th colspan="6" scope="col"><table width="100%"
border="0">
<tr>
<th width="17%" scope="col"> </th>
<th width="69%" scope="col"><img
src="../images/title_banner.jpg" width="489" height="49"
/></th>
<th width="14%" scope="col"> </th>
</tr>
</table></th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="14%"> </td>
<td width="18%"><div align="center"><a
href="../index.html">Home</a></div></td>
<td width="18%"><div align="center"><a
href="../press.html">Press</a></div></td>
<td width="18%"><div align="center"><a
href="../contact.php">Contact</a></div></td>
<td width="17%"><div align="center"><a
href="../purchase.html">Purchase</a></div></td>
<td width="15%"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="6"> </td>
</tr>
</table>
<table width="100%" border="0">
<tr>
<th valign="top" scope="col"> <table width="100%"
border="0">
<!-- TemplateBeginEditable name="EditRegion3" -->
<tr>
<th width="3%" class="style34"
scope="col"> </th>
<th colspan="4" class="style23" scope="col"><div
align="center"><span class="style33"><span
class="style35"></span></span></div></th>
<th class="style23" scope="col"> </th>
</tr>
<tr>
<th class="style34" scope="col"> </th>
<th colspan="2" class="style34"
scope="col"> </th>
<th colspan="3" class="style34"
scope="col"> </th>
</tr>
<tr>
<th class="style34" scope="col"> </th>
<th width="2%" class="style34"
scope="col"> </th>
<th colspan="2" class="style26"
scope="col"> </th>
<th width="2%" class="style34"
scope="col"> </th>
<th width="3%" class="style34"
scope="col"> </th>
</tr>
<tr>
<th colspan="6" class="style34"
scope="col"> </th>
</tr>
<!-- TemplateEndEditable -->
</table>
<div align="left"><img
src="../images/buisseret_banner.jpg" width="500" height="124"
/><img src="../images/books.jpg" width="175" height="125"
/></div></th>
</tr>
</table> </th>
</tr>
</table>
</div></td>
</tr>
<tr class="style27">
<td><div align="center" class="style31 style1
style2">copyright 2006 <br />
Carlton-Green Publishing
Co Ltd </div></td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>
</body>
</html> -
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AnandHi,
Ok, I tried the setting you suggested, ie. -Dswing.aatext=true, but it made no difference. What does that option do?
I have created a screenshot of the application, if anyone is interested in seeing it. Perhaps it will explain better what the problem is.
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Hi,
I have a E65 telephone which I bought off ebay. I believe its a chineese version.
My wife bought a E65 from Thailand.
Both phones work reasonably well, but one thing I have noticed is the fonts on mine look very ugly - I believe they are not aliased like the ones on my wife.
Is there any known work around?
SeanThe phones made in China (marked 'made by Nokia') have these less nice looking fonts. Phones made in Finland have the nicer looking fonts and are available in all European markets. No way around this I'm afraid.
When a flash image is available for this phone, perhaps it will be possible to re-flash an Asian phone with a Euro image - who knows...
- Simon
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