Uncyclopedia Arch Linux Entry - Ubuntu Noobs

Seeing as Arch's community has a relatively significant population of (ex?) Ubuntu Noobs, I felt the urge to include a little splurge about it on Uncylopedia. The fact that I wrote it is a bit ironic, because I am an ex Ubuntu noob myself (used it for almost a year before I called it quits).
I'm posting this thread to see if my statements actually resonate with the Arch community or not really - and if anyone has serious objections to it I'll remove it. But hey, it's just a joke...
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Archlinux#Ubuntu_Noobs
edit: I doubt this is worth noting, but this is my first time using uncyclopedia so I hope I really hope you like it.
Last edited by vsk (2008-08-11 15:53:44)

vsk wrote:I'm posting this thread to see if my statements actually resonate with the Arch community or not really - and if anyone has serious objections to it I'll remove it. But hey, it's just a joke...
Methinks you don't quite yet have the right mindset to contribute to Uncyclopedia.
(head here or here for some good pointers to get you started)

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Arch linux on ubuntu?

I was always wondering, why is there an arch linux sub-forum on the ubuntu forum?

molom wrote:We should have an Ubuntu sub-forum on the Arch Linux forums
Hey that's not a bad idea, we can do that and then organize bets like 'how long will it take before someone posts something there' , etc...
A fraction of the money involved goes to Arch of course

Arch linux for Ubuntu users

Hello everyone,
When using Synaptic on Ubuntu it usually sets everything up for you so all the installed software tends to work out of the box without any need to change around configuration. Is the package manager in Arch Linux as integrated as the one from Ubuntu?
Thanks
Frank

I'm new to the linux scene (about 1 month now). My most used distro (and my fallback if I mess up another distro on a seperate partition) was Ubuntu, until I figured out the basics of Arch. After this enlightenment, I find Arch to be much easier to work with in terms of customizing apps, having the right libraries I want, and to just do daily functions. I love to always check for updates to the system. Ever notice in ubuntu there are about 30 repositories you have to sync with? In Arch there are the 3 basic repositories (extra, core, community) and multilib if you are on 64bit. Working with pacman is much more efficient and controlled than apt-get imho.
One thing I hated with apt-get is that you add in 3rd party PPAs that are slow. With Arch and its pacman + yaourt(aur) there is really no need for these 3rd party repositories as everything you can imagine is probably available in official repositories or built by the community. Go check out https://aur.archlinux.org/ this is one of the coolest community made pool of apps around.
As mentioned before, the pacman doesn't hold your hands so be prepared to google and learn what some packages do. For example, I am running gnome and install a KDE app called amarok. Pacman will install everything (including KDE and qt libs) to get amarok started. However, the only things it doesn't install (but it does tell you what) is extra depencies.
Optional dependencies for amarok
libgpod: support for Apple iPod audio devices
libmtp: support for portable media devices
loudmouth: backend needed by mp3tunes for syncing
ifuse: support for Apple iPod Touch and iPhone
So, basically I just read through pacman's output, and either google or make a decision on what is needed. This way my system is controlled tightly and I know more about the system. In the future if I buy an ipod and want to sync, I'll remember there are some optional depencies available for this. I can type "pacman -Qi amarok" and it will show me what it depends on as well as optional depencies.
Sorry for going on for so long but you get the point.

Newbie consulting about migration to Arch Linux from Ubuntu

I am using Ubuntu until I find Arch Linux, and I feel I quite agree with its principle of simplicity. I am considering a migration to Arch Linux.
The two major aspects I am thinking over are NTFS support and Chinese support.
As for NTFS, I need a system which has the capability to both read and write NTFS partitions, and stability is quite important for me. I cannot afford any data loss! With Ubuntu, I have never suffered a data loss from NTFS partitions.
As for Chinese, I do not care about the UI language. Usually I use US English. But I need the system to display Chinese and allow me to input Chinese.
Does Arch Linux meet my requirements? Or is it possible to configure it to have those capabilities?
Thank you! And sorry for my poor English.

Runiq wrote:
ntfs-3g takes care of NTFS support. It's quite stable here, and I reckon Ubuntu uses it as well.
From my experiences with writing Japanese, I'd say that Arch is definitely able display Chinese as well. Writing chinese Characters shouldn't be that difficult either, given the fact that all Linux packages are basically the same. It's also possible to display and write Chinese characters in a console.
As for stability, I never had any problems, though it's in rare cases necessary to refer to the homepage before updating system-critical packages. I'd also update at least once a week if I were you.
Thank you!
The stability I stated mainly refers to the stability of ntfs-3g.

[SOLVED]System Hang in Arch Linux

I have tried distributions like ubuntu and fedora in hope for finding a stable system . So I move on to Arch Linux
But this problem also exist on Arch. While using my Arch Linux (including ubuntu and fedora) my system hangs with a black screen with something written on the whole screen which cannot be pasted here as my system hangs and I have to push power button to restart.
So I check my errors.log file and found these errors
Jul 8 22:59:24 localhost kernel: [ 1.680013] ata3: softreset failed (device not ready)
Jul 8 22:59:24 localhost kernel: [ 7.298612] SP5100 TCO timer: mmio address 0xfec000f0 already in use
Jul 8 22:59:31 localhost kdm_greet[792]: Cannot load /usr/share/apps/kdm/faces/.default.face: No such file or directory
I have a HCL K21 pdc notebook
Note: In Ubuntu my notebook start with ata1: softreset failed error at boot time
Most often this error occur while watching videos or listening music with VLC
Last edited by Manuj19 (2011-07-09 10:13:24)

ewaller wrote:It might be better to just post the output of lspci -nn It will tell us a great deal more about the hardware related to the PCI bus, including specific chip set identifiers.
Thanks for suggestion
Here is output of lspci -nn
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: ATI Technologies Inc Device [1002:5a31] (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge [1002:5a3f]
00:04.0 PCI bridge [0604]: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge [1002:5a36]
00:05.0 PCI bridge [0604]: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge [1002:5a37]
00:06.0 PCI bridge [0604]: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge [1002:5a38]
00:07.0 PCI bridge [0604]: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge [1002:5a39]
00:12.0 SATA controller [0106]: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA [1002:4380]
00:13.0 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0) [1002:4387]
00:13.1 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1) [1002:4388]
00:13.2 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2) [1002:4389]
00:13.3 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3) [1002:438a]
00:13.4 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4) [1002:438b]
00:13.5 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI) [1002:4386]
00:14.0 SMBus [0c05]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller [1002:4385] (rev 13)
00:14.1 IDE interface [0101]: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 IDE [1002:438c]
00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383]
00:14.3 ISA bridge [0601]: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge [1002:438d]
00:14.4 PCI bridge [0604]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge [1002:4384]
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M] [1002:5a62]
02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:001c] (rev 01)
08:01.0 CardBus bridge [0607]: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II [1180:0476] (rev b3)
08:01.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C552 IEEE 1394 Controller [1180:0552] (rev 08)
08:01.2 SD Host controller [0805]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter [1180:0822] (rev 17)
08:01.3 System peripheral [0880]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter [1180:0592] (rev 08)
08:07.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ [10ec:8139] (rev 10)
Last edited by Manuj19 (2011-07-09 07:20:08)

How to set up an Ubuntu chroot inside Arch Linux [solved]

I use Arch Linux (64 bits) as my desktop, but I'd like to have an Ubuntu chroot for development purposes. I installed schroot and debootstrap, created a directory for the jail, and executed:
sudo debootstrap --arch amd64 lucid /var/chroot/ubuntu http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
Then I edited /etc/schroot/schroot.conf to include only one chroot:
[ubuntu]
description=Ubuntu
type=directory
directory=/var/chroot/ubuntu
priority=1
users=myusername
root-users=myusername
aliases=lucid,default
"myusername" is a placeholder, I wrote my actual username.
I should be able to "schroot -c ubuntu", but when I run the command I receive this error message:
E: 20nssdatabases: /usr/bin/stat: cannot stat `/etc/networks': No such file or directory
E: ubuntu-4df5c899-3603-4a37-ab0f-d81fc3855c8d: Preparação do chroot falhou: etapa=setup-start
And then I'm back to the Arch Linux command line.
What should I do to make my Amd64 Ubuntu chroot work?
Thanks in advance.
Last edited by leonardof (2010-07-24 19:30:31)

Tip: touching /etc/networks in Arch Linux doesn't fix it. After creating the files schroot looks for in the host system, I can enter the jail but I have no networking.

Ubuntu look-alike gnome theme for arch linux

Is there any theme/gnome package(s) for arch linux that will give me gnome that looks kind of like the gnome package for ubuntu? I'm moving over from ubuntu to arch, and I'm hoping to ease the transition at first while I get used to the rest of the system. Thanks!
EDIT: Actually, how configurable is xfce? I've used gnome and kde for arch a bit, but they're just so vanilla, and I'm still looking for a relatively nice graphical interface on top of cli. Thanks!
Last edited by pythonscript (2009-07-27 23:29:40)

xfce4 is just about as configurable as GNOME at the level of gconf/ xfconf and way more configurable via the settings GUI.

How to install Ubuntu alongside Arch Linux?

I already have Arch installed and I have downloaded the Ubuntu 13.04 ISO. My grub file is auto generated following the beginners installation guide since I don't have much knowledge about GRUB2 commands or configuration. I looked up https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GR … _arguments - The Ubuntu ISO section, but didn't understand it. It instructs to to create a /archives but I don't know whether I have to create a new partition or do it in the one where Arch is. Also do I have to install Ubuntu before doing this. But wouldn't that overwrite my existing "grub.cfg"?
Can I do something like deleting the existing grub.cfg, installing Ubuntu on a separate partition and then add Arch to the Ubuntu grub menu. If this can be done, please tell me exactly what to delete in "/boot". I'm thinking the wiki's method is much more difficult and would prefer to add menu entries to Ubuntu's grub rather than the existing one. I have seen many people doing this on Google, but they all install Arch after Ubuntu rather than the other way round.
Running lsblk -lf
NAME FSTYPE LABEL UUID MOUNTPOINT
sda
├─sda1 ntfs 1CF45A405825898C
├─sda2 ntfs E27CDAE57CDAB40F /mnt/tempdrive1
├─sda3 ntfs D44E14D44E14B0EA /mnt/tempdrive2
├─sda4
└─sda5 ext4 arch_linux 44d38a19-2b36-465f-9ae1-f3387e5dc558 /
sr0
#sda4 is an extended partition which has sda5, on which Arch is installed. sda2 and sda3 are the #Windows partitions I want to delete and merge into a single one to make space for Ubuntu. sda1 is #/boot (maybe, that's what it shows in Gparted. Doesn't it have to be boot since it is the only one left?
Please help with detailed instructions since I am a complete novice at these sort of things (boot and all). Contrary to the norm, I installed Arch first, and am curious about Ubuntu so I want to try it out. Post any other information you'd like to have, and maybe I'll post a gparted screenshot if needed.
P.S- Not sure whether I'm allowed to post about installing some other distro, so I posted in this section. Please notify me via email if I'll have to remove it, and I'll do so.

I am not sure to what senjin refers, as I have never had a problem with ubuntu controlling grub, with one exception:
Sometimes ubuntu's OS-prober can't find Arch (so it disappears from the automatically created menu). Maybe this is the problem senjin found.
One way around this is to have a file in your Arch /etc that OS-prober looks for when it searches for other operating systems. Look for a file in your ubuntu called /etc/lsb-release. Make an appropriate copy in your Arch install, and OS-prober will always find it.
Another way to ensure OS-prober always finds Arch is to mount the Arch / partition before [re]running update-grub.
Finally, since you don't really need to ever generate a new menu entry for Arch - since it will always be the same - you can simply run update-grub once, copy the menu entries generated into /etc/grub.d/40-custom, and then disable the OS-prober (so it will only ever update the ubuntu entries (what I do these days).
grub, run from other distros, losing "Arch" seems to be a fairly common problem that is easily solved by any of the above.

Dual booting arch (usb) and ubuntu (grub2)

Greetings,
I'm trying to dual boot Arch linux (installed without a bootloader on a USB SSD) and Ubuntu 10.04 (installed on a hdd with GRUB2) but can't get Arch to boot. (Oh and I already have windows dualbooted)
The entry grub autogenerated:
menuentry "Arch Linux [/boot/vmlinuz26] (on /dev/sdb3)" {
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 95d9208a-44e4-48ba-abd2-a365d1ac25ff
linux /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sda3 ro
initrd /kernel26.img
Why did it input root=/dev/sda3 as it says (on /dev/sdb3)?
The entry I figured would work:
menuentry "Arch Linux" {
set root=(hd1,0)
linux /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sdb3 ro
initrd /boot/kernel26.img
Output from fdisk -l:
Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xbc4264d9
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 13 102400 7 HPFS/NTFS
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda2 13 5286 42353664 7 HPFS/NTFS
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda3 5286 19458 113831937 5 Extended
Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda5 18971 19458 3905536 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda6 5286 6502 9764864 83 Linux
/dev/sda7 6502 18971 100155392 83 Linux
Partition table entries are not in disk order
WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdb'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
Disk /dev/sdb: 8019 MB, 8019509248 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 974 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux
/dev/sdb2 14 111 787185 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb3 112 685 4610655 83 Linux
/dev/sdb4 686 974 2321392+ 83 Linux
/dev/sdb3 is the root partition
The content of /dev/sdb1
grub
kernel26-fallback.img
kernel26.img
lost+found
System.map26
vmlinuz26
- If I try to edit the root=/dev/sda3 to /dev/sdb3 it begins booting but doesnt find /dev/sdb3.
Thanks in advance for any help,
Oskar

Greetings,
I'm trying to dual boot Arch linux (installed without a bootloader on a USB SSD) and Ubuntu 10.04 (installed on a hdd with GRUB2) but can't get Arch to boot. (Oh and I already have windows dualbooted)
The entry grub autogenerated:
menuentry "Arch Linux [/boot/vmlinuz26] (on /dev/sdb3)" {
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 95d9208a-44e4-48ba-abd2-a365d1ac25ff
linux /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sda3 ro
initrd /kernel26.img
Why did it input root=/dev/sda3 as it says (on /dev/sdb3)?
The entry I figured would work:
menuentry "Arch Linux" {
set root=(hd1,0)
linux /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sdb3 ro
initrd /boot/kernel26.img
Output from fdisk -l:
Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xbc4264d9
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 13 102400 7 HPFS/NTFS
Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda2 13 5286 42353664 7 HPFS/NTFS
Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda3 5286 19458 113831937 5 Extended
Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary.
/dev/sda5 18971 19458 3905536 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda6 5286 6502 9764864 83 Linux
/dev/sda7 6502 18971 100155392 83 Linux
Partition table entries are not in disk order
WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdb'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
Disk /dev/sdb: 8019 MB, 8019509248 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 974 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux
/dev/sdb2 14 111 787185 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb3 112 685 4610655 83 Linux
/dev/sdb4 686 974 2321392+ 83 Linux
/dev/sdb3 is the root partition
The content of /dev/sdb1
grub
kernel26-fallback.img
kernel26.img
lost+found
System.map26
vmlinuz26
- If I try to edit the root=/dev/sda3 to /dev/sdb3 it begins booting but doesnt find /dev/sdb3.
Thanks in advance for any help,
Oskar

How to setup grub2 with arch linux and xen, lvm on luks

OK, so I tried downloading this package from AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xen-git/ , but that has patching problems as noted in the comments. It looks like the packagebuild sets up all the xen stuff for you, but I can't seem to get the package to install because of the error's while patching. If anyone can point me in the right direction on what all the extra files in the PKGBUILD are for or how to debug problems with PKGBUILDs not working because of patches.
So next I just tried to compile the latest xen from git://xenbits.xen.org/xen.git (with ./configure, make, make install) and that seemed to go fine, but I'm a bit confused:
1. Do I have to do any additional configuration for xen when working with arch linux? On ubuntu I could just compile the source, update grub, and make sure to start the x services at runtime.
2. How do I set up grub to load xen with this setup? Right now this is my /boot/grub/grub.cfg:
GRUB_DEFAULT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="Arch"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="cryptdevice=/dev/sda3:vgStorage"
# Preload both GPT and MBR modules so that they are not missed
GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="part_gpt part_msdos"
# Uncomment to enable Hidden Menu, and optionally hide the timeout count
#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=5
#GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
# Uncomment to use basic console
GRUB_TERMINAL_INPUT=console
# Uncomment to disable graphical terminal
#GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT=console
# The resolution used on graphical terminal
# note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE
# you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo'
GRUB_GFXMODE=auto
# Uncomment to allow the kernel use the same resolution used by grub
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep
# Uncomment if you want GRUB to pass to the Linux kernel the old parameter
# format "root=/dev/xxx" instead of "root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/xxx"
#GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true
# Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries
GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY=true
# Uncomment and set to the desired menu colors. Used by normal and wallpaper
# modes only. Entries specified as foreground/background.
#GRUB_COLOR_NORMAL="light-blue/black"
#GRUB_COLOR_HIGHLIGHT="light-cyan/blue"
# Uncomment one of them for the gfx desired, a image background or a gfxtheme
#GRUB_BACKGROUND="/path/to/wallpaper"
#GRUB_THEME="/path/to/gfxtheme"
# Uncomment to get a beep at GRUB start
#GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 440 1"
#GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT="true"
~
I've tried throwing in a line like: XEN_HYPERVISOR_CMDLINE="cryptdevice=/dev/sda3:vgStorage", but nothing new shows up on the grub boot menu.
First time trying to set up a non-ubuntu system, please help!

As for XEN.... well you could always try QEMU/KVM or LXC.
As for the LVM2-on-LUKS/dm-crypt
My /etc/mkinitcpio.conf looks like this...
MODULES="aesni_intel ata_generic ata_piix nls_cp437 ext4 intel_agp i915 dm-snapshot"
BINARIES=""
FILES=""
HOOKS="base udev autodetect block keymap encrypt lvm2 filesystems keyboard fsck shutdown"
/etc/defaults/grub
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="cryptdevice=/dev/sda2:root:allow-discards"
GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="part_gpt part_msdos"
GRUB_TERMINAL_INPUT=console
GRUB_GFXMODE=auto
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep
GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY=true
The running grub config looks like this
/boot/grub/grub.cfg
9 insmod part_gpt
10 insmod part_msdos
53 if loadfont unicode ; then
54 set gfxmode=auto
55 load_video
56 insmod gfxterm
57 set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
58 set lang=en_US
59 insmod gettext
60 fi
61 terminal_input console
62 terminal_output gfxterm
63 set timeout=3
84 menuentry 'Backup, Arch Linux grsec kernel' --class arch --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-grsec kernel-true-12341234-8080-8080-8080-332200882255' {
85 load_video
86 set gfxpayload=keep
87 insmod gzio
88 insmod part_msdos
89 insmod ext2
90 set root='hd1,msdos2'
91 if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
92 search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd1,msdos2 --hint-efi=hd1,msdos2 --hint-baremetal=ahci1,msdos2 BBAAEEAA-FFCC-CCFF-FFCC-AABBCCEEBBAA
93 else
94 search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root BBAAEEAA-FFCC-CCFF-FFCC-AABBCCEEBBAA
95 fi
96 echo 'Loading Linux grsec kernel ...'
97 linux /vmlinuz-linux-grsec root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-lvroot rw cryptdevice=/dev/sda2:root:allow-discards quiet
98 echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
99 initrd /initramfs-linux-grsec.img
100 }
Things to note:
Numerical UUID is the UUID of the ROOT partition.
Alphabetical UUIS is the BOOT partition
hd1,msdos2 AND ahci1,msdos2 are how the Grub Bootloader numbers the drives not Linux.
I have my BOOT partition on a USB stick, and it is the Second partition.
So, that would make it, Device 2 and Partition 2
Device numbering starts at 0
Partition numbering starts at 1
Oh, and note that you don't need ":allow-discards" ... at all but certainly if you don't have an SSD. Also note that I included the line numbers so it is very clear that I didn't post the whole thing, but instead what I thought was relevant. Finally, I am loading modules that I don't even need, but what the hell... if it ain't broke, don't fix it
Last edited by hunterthomson (2013-12-04 08:31:45)

Arch Linux 0.7.1 - my feedback

please read the post before vote
Well, I've used Arch linux for many months in late 2004 / early 2005 and then I've switched to Ubuntu...
some days ago I've installed version 0.7.1 and updated it with pacman -Syu
I've seen a lot of improvement since the last time I used it and I was near to think "ok let's switch back to Arch" until I found I that thing I really hate :!: is still here..
You can't install old versions of some packages. For example, kernel.. or.. php (ok there is one in Aur that is maybe "too" old) and mysql..
in the php/mysql example it's true that version 5 is the latest one but they (at least php) still develope the 4.x version for security and many server still have it and also many scripts supports only php4 and 5.
also, as I am a php developer, I need to test scripts with old versions.
but as I said this is just an example. I think that while you can't think to have a big repository of binaries it would be great to be able to install old versions via source.
and recompiling software by hand using old PKGBUILDS is a problem case you don't have a tool that tells you wich packaged were "aligned" with wich.. I mean.. the new php works only with the mysql5 extension so even if you build mysql by yourself it won't work with php.. and so on for apache..
anyway.. if a user is able to block a package and prevent the automatic update he should also be able to use the non-latest version of it.
I know that arch is a bleeding edge distro but this shouldn't mean that you have only the bleeding things. (see gentoo for example)
Another thing that will help a lot in my opinion is to have in the wiki 2 lists:
- one very detailed with available daemons and their use.. for example.. ok.. fam is the file alteration monitor.. but why you need it and wich are the main programs that takes advantage from it and what happens if you doesn't run it? and so on for hal, etc. ..
- one list with all available standard groups that tells user to wich group subscribe in order to be able to performe a specific action
imho this 2 lists will help the (new) user understand better what is doing and why The arch philosophy of "do it yourself and learn doing it" is great but have to be encouraged, and in fact there already is a very good documentation.
Just my 2 cents. And sorry if some one else already said this before; in this case take my post as an underline mark btw.. I'll attach a poll to it.
bye,
Giovanni.

iphitus wrote:To me this thread looks more like "i dont want to make a second package for myself, so let's get the devs to do it".
hmm.. this sounds a bit offenisve to me. Cause I don't actually need that packages as I'm not using Arch as main distro. This post was meant to give a feedback..
iphitus wrote:Especially as there isnt a huge demand for such a package, and you are most likely to be one of a very small minority to use that duplicate package.
ok I agree with this. but from my point of view it is because users that needed it too already switched to another distro..
and this leads us to this:
tomk wrote:I voted "No, there is no need", because I think this is simply an indication that Arch is not the right distro for you - it doesn't meet your requirements.
Imho, the point is that Arch have a lot of great features. The one I'd like to have is a feature that I think will just increase the number of great features Arch already have and will make Arch the right distro for more users. So users that switch to another distro will lose a lot of features that they like to get one or two that they need..
tomk wrote:This "thing that you really hate" is still there because firstly the Arch devs, and secondly Arch users, have not needed to change it. If you want to work "from within" to change that, with polls like this, feature requests, etc, I wish you the best of luck, but I think your poll result so far should tell you something about the support you can expect.
the poll was mainly for myself to get an idea of the users opinion not to change the things. And as I said it is not a change from my point of view, but just a new feature. About Arch devs I agree but about users I don't.. how you can say it if you say to me that I should change distro? In this way people that thinks like me will always remain a minority in arch community. And I don't think that having a old version of a "core" package would be against the Arch philosophy.
tomk wrote:Finally a general point, and this applies to wiki entries as well - you will get a better response if you do something, and then ask "what do you think?" instead of asking "Why doesn't Arch do this?"
I did it for the software thing with the poll and anyway also for the wiki I didn't wrote it but I thought it was clear.. For the wiki I posted my idea and there was no need for the question "what do you think" cause is a discussion forum Also please keep in mind that I wrote the original post in late night and that I'm italian so my english isn't so good :oops:
anyway.. thanks for the tip about subit a feature request and for your answers.
bye,
Giovanni.

Installing Arch Linux after Windows 7 64bit dual boot

Total noob here ^^
Im trying to install Arch Linux after my installation of Windows 7, without fucking up that one...
I freed up 50GB and removed it from my Windows boot partition, so Arch can be installed there, I have almost absolutely no experience with this kind of stuff since I've only used Ubuntu and Kali Linux before.
I've got a working arch image on my usb stick and i somehow can't figure out, how to install it without touching the existing partitions.
Is it possible to create a working dual boot, without changing my windows configuration?

yes its possible. What research have you done in order to install Arch. We do not hand hold here in this community. Go read up the appropriate wiki pages and ask specific questions with details in case you get stuck.
Start with the Beginners Guide.

Dual boot Windows 7 (64) and Arch Linux (64) problems

Hello:
I am new to Arch Linux and just finished installing the 64bit on my laptop. It had a prebuilt Windows 7 (64) installed which I kept but split the hdd from 160Gb to 80Gb and 80Gb. I installed Arch there and set 4 partitions, all of them as Logical - a 64 MB ext2 /boot partition; a 512 MB swap partition; a 15 GB root partition; and the rest as my /home partition. My partitions look like this:
Disk Drive: /dev/sda
Size: 160041885696 bytes, 160.0 GB
Heads: 255 Sectors per Track: 63 Cylinders: 19457
Name Flags Part Type FS Type [Label] Size (MB)
sda1 Primary Unknown (27) 12889.02
sda2 Boot Primary NTFS 106.93
sda3 Primary NTFS [] 73915.11*
sda5 Logical Linux ext2 65.81*
sda6 Logical Linux 509.97*
sda7 Logical Linux ext2 15002.92*
sda8 Logical Linux ext2 57549.55*
The install was succesful(this was running from the core install cd) and I installed GRUB to my /boot but when I restarted it loaded Windows 7. I have used Knoppix USB disc to boot and see my Arch Linux install files and edited the /boot/gur/menu.lst file.
In Windows I installed EasyBCD 1.7.2 and tried to get NeoGrub bootloader working as a dual boot. I tried getting rid of the boot flag for Windows with cfdisk and setting it to my (Logical) sda5. That did not work. So far the only way I have booted into my Arch Linux install has been by going to the Live CD, choosing "Boot from Existing Linux Install" and editing the command files there.
root (hd0,4)
kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sda3 ro
initrd /kernel26.img
My goal is to get a dual boot working for Windows 7 and Arch Linux 64 and continue installing the Xorg and KDE to Arch. I just don't know what the problem is here. I don't mind reinstalling Arch if something went wrong, but I would like to keep my Windows running in order and add Arch on.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I ran the LiveCD and chose "Install to MBR hd0". I ended up with this:
setup hd(0,1)
Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists.....yes
Checking if "/boot/grub/iso9660_stage1_5" exists.....yes
Running "embed /boot/grub/iso9660_stage1_5 (hd0,1)".....failed(this is not fatal)
Running "embed /boot/grub/iso9660_stage1_5 (hd16)".....failed(this is not fatal)
Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0,1) /boot/grub/stage2 p (hd0,1) boot/grub/menu.lst".....failed
Error 31: File is not sector aligned
My entry for Windows into the menu.lst looks like this:
# (0) Arch Linux x64
title Arch Linux x64
root (hd0,4)
kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/3841273c-d91e-41d6-9dbf-716a15d03a01 ro
initrd /kernel26.img
# (1) Arch Linux x64
title Arch Linux x64 Fallback
root (hd0,4)
kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/3841273c-d91e-41d6-9dbf-716a15d03a01 ro
initrd /kernel26-fallback.img
# (2) Windows 7
title Windows 7
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

[SOLVED] Using a NETGEAR WN111v2 USB network adapter with Arch Linux

Hello!
I just recently bought the adapter mentioned in the subject, and hoped to get it working with my lovely Arch Linux OS. (I had read somewhere online that it should work some way or another; ndiswrapper or a kernel driver). However, I've yet to get it working. I tried the tips I found:
Here:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? … ht=WN111v2
which links to here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=885520
Basically, it tells me that I should use ndiswrapper with the arusb_xp drivers provided by NETGEAR. So I place the three files arusb_xp.inf, arusb_xp.sys and arusb_xp.cab in a folder, and run:
sudo ndiswrapper -i arusb_xp.inf
ndiswrapper -l
arusb_xp : driver installed
device (0846:9001) present
sudo ndiswrapper -m
sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
This should install my drivers, add an alias in modprobe.d/ndiswrapper saying "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" and load ndiswrapper in itself... right?
But after a iwconfig I can still see only eth0 and lo, no wireless interfaces at all. I checked lsmod, but couldn't find any conflicting drivers loaded.
Anybody got an idea why it worked for the people with Ubuntu and not me? Any and all help greatly appreciated!
Cheers
EDIT: For some magical reason, the drivers that came with my adapter did NOT work, while the drivers on the second link, named the same, DID. I have not inspected how they differ, but luckily, they work. Yey!
Last edited by mariusmeyer (2009-05-07 08:52:21)

i have the same computer and the same os, and i want to do the same thing. have you figured out if this works yet?
i was told that the new airport extreme cards wont work in older computers. and that id have to find an older airport card on ebay because they dont make them anymore
Message was edited by: xacharias

[SOLVED] Ndiswrapper, NetworkManager 0.7 and 64-bit Arch Linux

Hi there!
I am having problems configuring my wireless card. I know I have to use Ndiswrapper, and this is what I have tried to do; however, it didn't go quite well.
This is rather odd because it worked perfectly in the 32-bit version of Arch Linux, but now it doesn't work.
So, here comes the code.
valandil ~ $ lspci | grep Network
0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
I really use ndiswrapper and have already installed what I think is the proper driver (it seems that the list the official ndiswrapper site had has somehow disappeared.
sudo ndiswrapper -l
Password:
bcmwl5 : driver installed
device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: ssb)
Here's iwconfig:
valandil ~ $ iwconfig
lo no wireless extensions.
eth0 no wireless extensions.
wmaster0 no wireless extensions.
wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:""
Mode:Managed Frequency:2.412 GHz Access Point: Not-Associated
Tx-Power=0 dBm
Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=2352 B
Power Management:off
Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0
I use NetworkManager 0.7 and have configured properly:
rc.conf:
# /etc/rc.conf - Main Configuration for Arch Linux
# LOCALIZATION
# LOCALE: available languages can be listed with the 'locale -a' command
# HARDWARECLOCK: set to "UTC" or "localtime"
# USEDIRECTISA: use direct I/O requests instead of /dev/rtc for hwclock
# TIMEZONE: timezones are found in /usr/share/zoneinfo
# KEYMAP: keymaps are found in /usr/share/kbd/keymaps
# CONSOLEFONT: found in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts (only needed for non-US)
# CONSOLEMAP: found in /usr/share/kbd/consoletrans
# USECOLOR: use ANSI color sequences in startup messages
LOCALE="en_US.utf8"
HARDWARECLOCK="localtime"
USEDIRECTISA="no"
TIMEZONE="America/Vancouver"
KEYMAP="cf"
CONSOLEFONT=
CONSOLEMAP=
USECOLOR="yes"
# HARDWARE
# MOD_AUTOLOAD: Allow autoloading of modules at boot and when needed
# MOD_BLACKLIST: Prevent udev from loading these modules
# MODULES: Modules to load at boot-up. Prefix with a ! to blacklist.
# NOTE: Use of 'MOD_BLACKLIST' is deprecated. Please use ! in the MODULES array.
MOD_AUTOLOAD="yes"
#MOD_BLACKLIST=() #deprecated
MODULES=(fuse ndiswrapper fglrx !b44 !mii bcm43xx !snd_pcsp snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-hwdep snd-page-alloc snd-pcm snd-timer snd snd-hda-intel soundcore !pcspkr)
# Scan for LVM volume groups at startup, required if you use LVM
USELVM="no"
# NETWORKING
# HOSTNAME: Hostname of machine. Should also be put in /etc/hosts
HOSTNAME="cipher"
# Use 'ifconfig -a' or 'ls /sys/class/net/' to see all available interfaces.
# Interfaces to start at boot-up (in this order)
# Declare each interface then list in INTERFACES
# - prefix an entry in INTERFACES with a ! to disable it
# - no hyphens in your interface names - Bash doesn't like it
# DHCP: Set your interface to "dhcp" (eth0="dhcp")
# Wireless: See network profiles below
#eth0="eth0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255"
eth0="dhcp"
INTERFACES=(lo !eth0 !wlan0)
# Routes to start at boot-up (in this order)
# Declare each route then list in ROUTES
# - prefix an entry in ROUTES with a ! to disable it
gateway="default gw 192.168.1.1"
ROUTES=(!gateway)
# Enable these network profiles at boot-up. These are only useful
# if you happen to need multiple network configurations (ie, laptop users)
# - set to 'menu' to present a menu during boot-up (dialog package required)
# - prefix an entry with a ! to disable it
# Network profiles are found in /etc/network.d
# This now requires the netcfg package
#NETWORKS=(main)
# DAEMONS
# Daemons to start at boot-up (in this order)
# - prefix a daemon with a ! to disable it
# - prefix a daemon with a @ to start it up in the background
DAEMONS=(@stbd httpd !network syslog-ng netfs crond alsa hal dhcdbd networkmanager fam gdm)
hosts file :
# /etc/hosts: static lookup table for host names
#<ip-address> <hostname.domain.org> <hostname>
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost cipher
# End of file
/etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf:
GNU nano 2.0.9 File: /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf
[main]
plugins=keyfile
[keyfile]
hostname=cipher
I hope you can solve this problem; wireless is really crucial.
Thanks for any help,
Last edited by valandil (2012-05-02 18:27:09)

Alleluia!!!
I think I will write a new rule for myself to follow :
Thou shalt never use ndiswrapper again.
Thanks a lot, wonder, and thanks to you too, Xyne.
FYI, I tried to use something else than ndiswrapper before, but it didn't yield satisfying results. Anyway, thanks.

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