Unwanted movement in horizontal navigation bar

Have been struggling with this for days but finally have
found an improvised solution.

I've had a quick look.
On your index page, events and contact you have two instances
of </head>,
<title></title>.
Fix those and post back if the problem remains. I haven't
looked further yet
as there's just so much code...
A comment on dyscalulia - I'm terrible with numbers - *but*
coding is
logic, not mathematics and your site would (IMHO) be easier
to control using
CSS. Try giving it a whirl, see what happens (o:
I'm no expert, either at CSS or dyscalculia but I thought I'd
stick in my 2¢
anyway.
I recommend
http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp
and
http://projectseven.com/tutorials/css/css_td/index.htm
Jo
"cydcyd" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
news:ev2sc9$9gl$[email protected]..
> My horizontal bar moves horizontally between pages. I
would be very
> grateful if
> anyone would explain to me how to get it to keep
perfectly still, as
> simply as
> possible, preferably by cutting and pasting.
Unfortunately my brain just
> can't
> do code (I have discalculia) so I created the website in
Design mode. My
> website is at
http://rachelspring.co.uk.
Many thanks if anyone is willing
> to
> help me.
>

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    This is what I mean by the dotted lines not lining up evenly at the ends.
    Here is the source code for the page, followed by the css:
    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
    <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <head>
    <meta name="description" content="Common Wealth Web Solutions: Web Development, Graphic Design, Media Consultant, Community Engagement" />
    <meta name="keywords" content="Common,Wealth,Web,Solution,Design,Graphic,Development,Interactivity,services,fla sh,php,javascript,ajax,professional,Caleb Wright, Peter Wallis,artist,video,multimedia,production,search engine optimization,SEO,video production design" />
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text
    /html; charset=UTF-8" />
    <title>Common Wealth Web Solutions: Web Development, Graphic Design, Media Consultation, Community Engagement</title>
    <link href="stylesMain.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
    <!--[if lt IE 7]>
    <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="PNGfix.css" />
    <![endif]-->
    <!--[if lte IE 7]>
    <style type="text/css">
    #hornav ul li { padding: 0 0 0 10px; }
    </style>
    <![endif]-->
    <!--[if lte IE 6]>
    <style type="text/css">
    #wrapper-body, #wrapper-1, #wrapper-2, #wrapper-3 { height: 1%; }
    </style>
    <![endif]-->
    <script type="text/javascript" src="scripts.js"></script>
    <script src="Scripts/swfobject_modified.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
    <style type="text/css">
    #apDiv1 {
        position:absolute;
        width:1844px;
        height:43px;
        z-index:1;
        left: 64px;
        top: 253px;
    body {
        background-color: #FFF;
    </style>
    <link href="SpryAssets/SpryAccordion_flexible.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
    <style type="text/css">
    a:link {
        color: #00F;
    </style>
    <style type="text/css">
    #menu {
    width: 700px;
    margin: 0 auto;
    #menu ul {
    padding: 0;
    margin: 0;
    text-align:center;
    list-style:none
    #menu li{
    padding: 0;
    margin: 0;
    display:inline;
    margin-right: -2px;
    #menu a {
    background-color:#66F;
    padding: 6px 15px;
    color: #fff;
    text-decoration: none;
    #menu a:hover {
    background-color:#39C;
    </style>
    <script type="text/javascript">
      var _gaq = _gaq || [];
      _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-3119473-5']);
      _gaq.push(['_setDomainName', 'none']);
      _gaq.push(['_setAllowLinker', true]);
      _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);
      (function() {
        var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
        ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
        var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
    </script>
    <script type="text/javascript">
      var _gaq = _gaq || [];
      _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-3119473-6']);
      _gaq.push(['_setDomainName', 'none']);
      _gaq.push(['_setAllowLinker', true]);
      _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);
      (function() {
        var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
        ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
        var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
    </script>
    <link href="CSSOnlyMenu4/css/menu4.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
    <style type="text/css">
    /* BeginOAWidget_Instance_2141545: #OAWidget */
    #menu4 ul {
        font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif;
        font-size: 30px;
        letter-spacing: -3px;
        border-top:5px dotted #003399;
        border-bottom:5px dotted #003399;
        margin:20px;
    #menu4 ul li a{
        color: #003399;
        padding: 10px 5px 10px 10px;
        width: 170px;
    #menu4 ul li a:hover span.title{
        color:#00adef;
    #menu4 ul li a span.text{
        font-family: Georgia, serif;
        font-size: 13px;
        color:#c7e7f3;
    /* EndOAWidget_Instance_2141545 */
    </style>
    <script type="text/xml">
    <!--
    <oa:widgets>
      <oa:widget wid="2141545" binding="#OAWidget" />
    </oa:widgets>
    -->
    </script>
    </head>
    <body>
    <div id="wrapper-body">
      <div id="wrapper-1">
        <div id="branding">
          <h1>
          <div>
            <p><img src="images/lorentzpaintinglogo_cropped2.png" width="317" height="110" alt="Lorenz Painting Co." longdesc="http://www.lorenzpainting.com" /></p></div>
          <div id="flash">
          <object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" width="700" height="250" id="FlashID" title="Lorenz Painting Co Flash Widget">
            <param name="movie" value="LorentzBanner.swf" />
            <param name="quality" value="high" />
            <param name="wmode" value="opaque" />
            <param name="swfversion" value="6.0.65.0" />
            <!-- This param tag prompts users with Flash Player 6.0 r65 and higher to download the latest version of Flash Player. Delete it if you don’t want users to see the prompt. -->
            <param name="expressinstall" value="Scripts/expressInstall.swf" />
            <!-- Next object tag is for non-IE browsers. So hide it from IE using IECC. -->
            <!--[if !IE]>-->
            <object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="LorentzBanner.swf" width="700" height="250">
              <!--<![endif]-->
              <param name="quality" value="high" />
              <param name="wmode" value="opaque" />
              <param name="swfversion" value="6.0.65.0" />
              <param name="expressinstall" value="Scripts/expressInstall.swf" />
              <!-- The browser displays the following alternative content for users with Flash Player 6.0 and older. -->
              <div>
                <h4>Content on this page requires a newer version of Adobe Flash Player.</h4>
                <p><a href="http://www.adobe.com/go/getflashplayer"><img src="http://www.adobe.com/images/shared/download_buttons/get_flash_player.gif" alt="Get Adobe Flash player" width="112" height="33" /></a></p>
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              </div>
              <!--[if !IE]>-->
            </object>
            <!--<![endif]-->
          </object>
          </h1>
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        <ul>
          <li><a href=""> <span class="title">Home</span> <span class="text">Why us?</span> </a> </li>
          <li><a href="">Services<span class="text">What we do</span> </a> </li>
          <li><a href=""> <span class="title">Testimonials</span> <span class="text">What they say</span> </a> </li>
          <li><a href=""> <span class="title">Contact</span> <span class="text">How to get in touch</span> </a> </li>
        </ul>
    </div>
    <p> </p>
      <p> </p>
      <p> </p>
    </div>
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        </div>
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          <div id="wrapper-3">
            <div id="content-1">
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                <p>Contact</p>
              </div>
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            <div id="content-2">
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    <p> </p>
              </div>
            </div>
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      </div>
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    Be forewarned, there are a bunch of rules in here that don't apply to anything anymore, as it's from a recycled rules from another site I built.  Sorry.
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    @charset "UTF-8";
    body
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        font-size: 1.2em;
        color: #6B6B6B;
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        padding: 0;
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        font-weight: normal;
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    img.float-right
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        font-weight: normal;
        font-variant: normal;
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    .date .month
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    #wrapper-body #wrapper-1 #wrapper-2 #wrapper-3 #content-2 .content-wrap #Contact Us fieldset legend {
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