Update the cost in sale order

dear sir
i check with abaper ,he says the value is updated from sale order
they get the consumption of sales using customized transaction
actual cost is zero
user create the material master withot pricing
we ask to update the material master and they do the costing run
in material master standard costing estimate found
after they run the consumption report ,once again actual cost is zero
i chech\ked in costing status using CK11N ,std cost estimate found
is it possible to update the cost in sales order
(redetermine or recalculate the pricng in sale order)
so that my consumpotion report will update
thanks

Hi,
Check the following link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/90/ba6da4446711d189420000e829fbbd/content.htm
Regards,
Saju.S

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T-CODE VF02
billing date 03.06.2011
NO STANDARD COST ESIIMATE COULD BE FOUND MATERILAL
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