Upgrade to boot drive... Upgrade to Leopard?

My scenario: G5/1gbRAM/2 160GB drives, Running Tiger, latest updates. Got prompted to take the new iTunes and Quicktime upgrades. Required reboot. After reboot, drive no longer boots. Have done all the usual: safe boot, single user, etc. All Fail.
My assumption is that some system component got corrupted during the Quicktime or iTunes upgrade.
Considering the following: Upgrade drive to Leopard to maintain all settings and applications. I talk to three different people at Apple support and get three different stories about what Archive and Install option in Tiger will do, very disconcerting.
Have a Leopard disk from my MacBook Pro (purchased January). When I boot from that disc, it reports that it cannot be used with this Mac. Is that because it's a bundle disc? Note: I'm not adverse to buying a Leopard disc, but I'd like to see that it works first before making that purchase.
Hints/advice?
Thanks,
-Ric

I decided to go ahead. Tried the archive and install on the troubled drive. Everything went well, but the drive still failed to function as a startup drive. Still I could read the old drive, so I did a SuperDuper backup of the drive to another Firewire drive.
Then… another trip to Frys. Bought a new SATA Drive (500gb “green” Western Digital – on sale for $80.)
- Replaced troubled drive with new drive
- Installed Tiger on new drive
- After install it prompted as to whether I wanted to move user data from another computer or another partition.
- I mounted the Firewire drive with the Superduper backup and pointed it at that.
- The transfer utility menu came up with the checklist of what I wanted to transfer from that partition, my user id complete with custom picture (very reassuring), network and user settings, applications, and files. I checked them all.
And the thing boots now. Things are pretty much back to normal. And all my old files are back. Little Snitch and Foldershare are victims, will have to reinstall. As I will my Microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse drivers. I had to do an update for the system to get it back to 10.4.11, and I think I need to update Quicktime and iTunes because they've reverted to older versions (part of the Tiger install I expect.) Probably a few more surprises (I expect my Adobe aps to need reinstalling) but now it's time for sleep.
-Ric

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Nearly 99% of all businesses and nearly 95% of everyone use Windows, Steve Jobs declared "The desktop wars are over, Microsoft won" a long time ago.
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https://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/
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Learn here how to go about fixing your own machine and creating backups/bootable clones this way your not having to drive several hundred miles for a software or boot drive repair. Simply reverse clone your troubles away.
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https://discussions.apple.com/community/notebooks/macbook_pro?view=documents
I'm of the maturity and experience that I know a Mac isn't always the best solution for everyone and even Apple doesn't provide the proper hardware, support or features for everyone. Why only store locations in high traffic ritzy areas?
Our SteveJobs fan here is under 18 years old with good eyes, he's not older like we are with bad or failing eyesight.
The new Mac's have hard to see glossy screens and the type/UI can't be scaled up easily to accomadate our older eyes, however a Windows 7 machine does allow up to 150% scale of the UI, type etc., and also there are anti-glare screen PC's and just about no more anti-glare screen Mac's.
I wrote this User tip in case you have trouble seeing the screen, at least you can scale the web browsing up
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Apple might still be selling the anti-glare 15" non-retina on their online store, it's the "high resolution/anti-glare model"
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https://www.sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=category_browse&selected_cat=2
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Of course you do now have the option of having Windows pre-installed alongside OS X to begin your transition to the dark side.
Just call and they will accomondate, hold the option/alt key at boot time to swtich operating systems.
http://www.macmall.com/
Windows 7 looks just as good as OS X, the secret is having a good monitor with most PC's come with don't.
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