Using 1.5.5.59.69-no-jre and 2.1.0.63.73-no-jre with

Hello,
I'm using JDK1.6.0 update 17.
Version 2.1.0.63.73 works fine.
I've successfully ran 1.5.5.59.69 and pointed to java.exe.
Now, when i try to run 1.5.5.59.69:
-I see the splash screen
-I see the "Configure File Type Associations" and click the OK button
-Thats it! Nothing happens and no error message is showed.
I've extracted the installation files several times, but the problem persists.
I notice that the windows process for sqldeveloper.exe is very memory consuming: 120MB.
Any clues on what's the problem?
Thanks!
Best Regards
António David

I didn't say Java console. I mean the console window opened when running from the mentioned executable.
FWIW, I stopped using the Windows L&F a long time ago, because of the various problems it causes. I strongly suggest you try to live with the least ugly Java theme.
Regards,
K.

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If there is anyone who can advise me on this or point me in the direction of some documention I would be very grateful.
-Steve

aseemfromnyc wrote:
is it possible to stream the contents of the hard drive to the hdtv witht the hard drive
Yes, add them to iTunes. The fact that they are on an external doesn't stop them from being in iTunes.
If necessary, create a separate library which you just use when you have the external connected.
Alternatively, if you have an iPhone or iPad you could check out an App like Air Video, which displays video that isn't in iTunes on your device. I think you can then use Airplay to get it onto your ATV.

Silent installation of JRE with server JVM?

Is it possible to deploy the JRE with the server HotSpot JVM included? So far, we deployed the JRE silently (http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/deployment/deployment-guide/silent.html) and copied the "server/" subdirectory (with the server HotSpot JVM) of the relating JDK separately to each server. Is there a way to include this Server JVM in the silent installation so that Java apps can use the "-server" option on each JRE host?

How do you do the silent install currently? (this will give a clue on how to make it more silent).
Peter

Bundling JRE with Application

I have full version of exe4j and install4j from e-j technologies and i have been able to successfully create an executable file for my java application on my system and it work real fine.
But in a situation where by the destination system where the application will be used might not have a JRE installed on it. In this situation the executable will not work.
So what to know is if it is possible to bundle a JRE with my application with the use of Install4j such that when it detects that there is no JRE on the system, it then installs the JRE that comes with it and if a JRE exists it proceeds with the installation of the application only.
If Install4j is not being able to do this, is there any other application out there that can do it. I know install Anywhere from Zerog does that, but i don't want to use it.
Thanks for your response.

I'm sure why it didn't work. That is how I bundle the JRE. The only disadvantage about bundling is the size of the installer file will be pretty large. In my opinion, relying on a public version is not a good idea if you have no control of the target box. The user might, for some reason, decide to uninstall java or upgrade to a new incompatible version and your app. may stop working. I'm sure many on here will disagree with this though.
I always use the marner .exe wrapper:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FYZAVM77
and inno installer:
http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php
They're both free to use and I've had no problems with them. Another wrapper is Javaround:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=234356

What is the recommended practice for bundling JRE with Java Application?

Hello,
I am using a software called Advanced Installer to create a Windows installer (.msi file).
This .msi file contains :
- a .exe file which is a wrapper for a .jar file (a Java Swing program),
- and a directory for the JRE.
I read an article on the web which recommended bundling the JRE with the Java program. And
this is what I am doing. And my understanding is that if the user's system does not already
have the JRE installed, the bundled JRE would allow my Java Swing program to run.
However, when I tried to install my .msi file on a system that did not already have the JRE,
my Java Swing program would not start. After installing the JRE on this system, my Java
Swing program started and ran fine.
Do I really need both JREs, one bundled with my Java Swing application and one installed at the
system's location for my Java Swing program to start and run?
Another question I have is that if every application would bundle its own JRE, there could be many
copies/possibly versions of the JRE on the system, is this acceptable? What is the common or
recommended practice?
Thank you for your help.
Akino.

I'm sure why it didn't work. That is how I bundle the JRE. The only disadvantage about bundling is the size of the installer file will be pretty large. In my opinion, relying on a public version is not a good idea if you have no control of the target box. The user might, for some reason, decide to uninstall java or upgrade to a new incompatible version and your app. may stop working. I'm sure many on here will disagree with this though.
I always use the marner .exe wrapper:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FYZAVM77
and inno installer:
http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php
They're both free to use and I've had no problems with them. Another wrapper is Javaround:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=234356

JRE with JDK !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi,
I am new to Java development.I have a doubt---why does SUN provide JRE along with JDK when u have a runtime environment available within ur JDK. It could have been provided only seperatley for nondevelopers to download.why JRE with JDK...
Is it marketing :-) or Does the JRE have features that are not there in JDK ???
Thanx
Shiv

The JDK is for development purposes. Sun could, if they wanted to, make the versions different. For instance, the JDK can be compiled with certain flags to help development (debugging, etc.)
The JRE is used for a "real world" test bed.
Regards,
Nick G.

Hi there, I am trying to connect to my server at work from home using a vpn connection. It connects fine and the time ticks along, but when i click go - connect to server, it comes up with connection failed. Please help!

Hi there, I am trying to connect to my server at work from home using a vpn connection. It connects fine and the time ticks along, but when i click go - connect to server, it comes up with connection failed. Please help!

... when i click go - connect to server, it comes up with connection failed.
If you're trying to connect to a Bonjour server on the remote network, that won't work over a layer 3 VPN. Use something like Hamachi or one of the SSH-tunnelling Bonjour proxy apps for that.

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