Using Flashback Database on 11g

hi everyone,
My 11g db is size 50 GB on a very strong Windows server.
No performance problems whatsoever.
If I enable Flashback Database logging am I likely to notice any performance degradation? The data is not really heaviily changed.
What about disk space - does it use the existing redo/archive logs or does it create different logs for the flashback feature?
Thanks for your opinions.
John

user629010 wrote:
hi everyone,
My 11g db is size 50 GB on a very strong Windows server.
No performance problems whatsoever.
If I enable Flashback Database logging am I likely to notice any performance degradation? The data is not really heaviily changed.Even if the data is not heavily changed, with the internal changes happening, there would be some activity always generating Redo/Undo. You would want to check the working of the RVWR process to see any possible waits over it. In addition to this, if the speed of the writing of RVWR is not good enough to write, you would see the contention on the Undo tablespace as it won't be freed as long as the corresponding writes are not saved by RVWR.
>
What about disk space - does it use the existing redo/archive logs or does it create different logs for the flashback feature?Flashback database uses *.flb* files which , if I remember correctly ,grow in 8mb of chunks. FLasback database does not uses the existing redo logs. Yes, it does uses the archived logs in addition to the FLB logs. So before you think to use this featuture, you do want to check the retention period of the logs , also the disk space required to manage that much retention period.
HTH
Aman....
Thanks for your opinions.
John

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    input datafile fno=00004 name=F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\ORCL\USERS01.DBF
    channel ORA_DISK_1: starting piece 1 at 31-AUG-09
    channel ORA_DISK_1: finished piece 1 at 31-AUG-09
    piece handle=F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL\BACKUPSET\2009_08_31\O1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20090831T131520_59PY48QX_.BKP tag=TAG20090831T131520 comment=
    channel ORA_DISK_1: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:45
    channel ORA_DISK_1: starting full datafile backupset
    channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
    including current control file in backupset
    including current SPFILE in backupset
    channel ORA_DISK_1: starting piece 1 at 31-AUG-09
    channel ORA_DISK_1: finished piece 1 at 31-AUG-09
    piece handle=F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL\BACKUPSET\2009_08_31\O1_MF_NCSNF_TAG20090831T131520_59PY5R4D_.BKP tag=TAG20090831T131520 comment=
    channel ORA_DISK_1: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:04
    Finished backup at 31-AUG-09
    After that …..
    SQL> create table y (id number);
    Table created.
    SQL> select to_char(sysdate,'dd-mm-yy hh24:mi:ss') from dual;
    TO_CHAR(SYSDATE,'
    31-08-09 13:23:03
    SQL> drop table y
    2 ;
    Table dropped.
    SQL> shutdown abort
    ORACLE instance shut down.
    SQL> startup mount
    ORACLE instance started.
    Total System Global Area 612368384 bytes
    Fixed Size 1250428 bytes
    Variable Size 226495364 bytes
    Database Buffers 377487360 bytes
    Redo Buffers 7135232 bytes
    Database mounted.
    SQL> flashback database to timestamp to_timestamp('31-08-09 13:23:03','dd-mm-yy hh24:mi:ss');
    Flashback complete.
    SQL> alter database open resetlogs;
    Database altered.
    SQL> desc y
    Name Null? Type
    ID NUMBER
    SQL> shutdown immediate
    Database closed.
    Database dismounted.
    ORACLE instance shut down.
    SQL> startup mount
    ORACLE instance started.
    Total System Global Area 612368384 bytes
    Fixed Size 1250428 bytes
    Variable Size 226495364 bytes
    Database Buffers 377487360 bytes
    Redo Buffers 7135232 bytes
    Database mounted.
    SQL> select name from v$datafile;
    NAME
    F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\ORCL\SYSTEM01.DBF
    F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\ORCL\UNDOTBS01.DBF
    F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\ORCL\SYSAUX01.DBF
    F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\ORCL\USERS01.DBF
    F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\ORCL\EXAMPLE01.DBF
    SQL> host del F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\ORCL\USERS01.DBF
    SQL> alter database open;
    alter database open
    ERROR at line 1:
    ORA-01157: cannot identify/lock data file 4 - see DBWR trace file
    ORA-01110: data file 4: 'F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\ORCL\USERS01.DBF'
    Then I restore old backup from rman
    RMAN> restore database;
    Starting restore at 31-AUG-09
    using target database control file instead of recovery catalog
    allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
    channel ORA_DISK_1: sid=154 devtype=DISK
    channel ORA_DISK_1: starting datafile backupset restore
    channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) to restore from backup set
    restoring datafile 00001 to F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\ORCL\SYSTEM01.DBF
    restoring datafile 00002 to F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\ORCL\UNDOTBS01.DBF
    restoring datafile 00003 to F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\ORCL\SYSAUX01.DBF
    restoring datafile 00004 to F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\ORCL\USERS01.DBF
    restoring datafile 00005 to F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\ORCL\EXAMPLE01.DBF
    channel ORA_DISK_1: reading from backup piece F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL\BACKUPSET\2009_08_31\O1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20090831T131520_59PY48QX_.BK
    channel ORA_DISK_1: restored backup piece 1
    piece handle=F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL\BACKUPSET\2009_08_31\O1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20090831T131520_59PY48QX_.BKP tag=TAG20090831T131520
    channel ORA_DISK_1: restore complete, elapsed time: 00:00:46
    Finished restore at 31-AUG-09
    RMAN> recover database;
    Starting recover at 31-AUG-09
    using channel ORA_DISK_1
    starting media recovery
    archive log thread 1 sequence 22 is already on disk as file F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ARC\ARC00022_0693947048.001
    archive log thread 1 sequence 23 is already on disk as file F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ARC\ARC00023_0693947048.001
    archive log filename=F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ARC\ARC00022_0693947048.001 thread=1 sequence=22
    archive log filename=F:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ARC\ARC00023_0693947048.001 thread=1 sequence=23
    media recovery complete, elapsed time: 00:00:06
    Finished recover at 31-AUG-09
    Then I back sqlplus
    SQL> alter database open;
    Database altered.
    SQL> desc y
    Name Null? Type
    ID NUMBER
    So answer your question is , YES you can restore from you old backup , not need to do anything else.
    Regards
    Liakat hossain

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