Version Rman catalog higher than target database

Hi,
I have a database 10.1.0.2, but I couldn´t upgrade it to 10.1.0.3 or 10g R2 because this database is used by a application that needs this Oracle database version.
I have the catalog in another host with the same Oracle version, and I want to upgrade this database to 10.1.0.3 at least.
Is there any problem if I do the backups with a catalog with a version higher than the target database?
Thanks a lot.
Laura.

There should not be any problem in backup after upgrade of catalog database.
Cheers
Vignesh

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I.
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VERSION
11.01.00.06
SQL>
rman
Recovery Manager: Release 9.2.0.7.0 - 64bit Production
Copyright (c) 1995, 2002, Oracle Corporation. All rights reserved.
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